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ESPN puts us in for now in the playoff because we are still eligible for the ACC championship and we are the highest ranked ACC team. Hoever, who ever wins the acc championship will take that spot. If we win out and we dont creep close enought to ND we are still not in. So we need byu, alabama, oklahoma, or utah to lose enough for us to get close to ND and take their spot
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
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Last team in: Miami. The No. 13 Canes are listed here because they are the selection committee's highest-ranked ACC team and are still mathematically eligible to reach the conference championship game. Until the participants of that game are clear, the committee's highest-ranked ACC team will continue to appear here. With six teams still in contention, the most fair representative is the committee's. Still, Miami's best chance at reaching the CFP right now is through an at-large bid because the Canes only have a 7.1% chance to reach the ACC title game. To get that at-large bid, Miami still needs to beat both Virginia Tech and Pitt and hope for losses above it to move into the top 10. The ACC champion will earn the No. 11 seed and the Group of 5 champion will have the No. 12 seed, so Miami needs to jump to No. 10 by Selection Day. It's not inconceivable if Alabama loses to Auburn, BYU loses to Cincinnati and Utah loses to either K-State or at Kansas. It will take more than one of those things -- if not all three. The question will be if the committee ever revisits Miami's head-to-head win against Notre Dame in the season opener. The Canes would likely have to creep closer to the Irish in their ranking for them to be comparable enough to use that tiebreaker. Georgia Tech can clinch a spot in the game with a win against Pitt on Saturday, and Virginia can clinch with losses by Duke, Pitt and SMU.
 
Page305 said:
If we win out.... based on all the reminding games that are left PLUS the losers of all the conference games falling.... we are no lower than 8. we will get in.
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espn is pencling in miami as the ACC champ as per below:
No. 1 Ohio State (Big Ten champ)
No. 2 Indiana
No. 3 Texas A&M (SEC champ)
No. 4 Georgia

First-round games

On campus, Dec. 19 and 20

No. 12 Tulane (American champ) at No. 5 Texas Tech (Big 12 champ)
No. 11 Miami (ACC champ) at No. 6 Ole Miss
No. 10 Alabama at No. 7 Oregon
No. 9 Notre Dame at No. 8 Oklahoma
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Lets say GT wins the ACC the it will look like this:
No. 1 Ohio State (Big Ten champ)
No. 2 Indiana
No. 3 Texas A&M (SEC champ)
No. 4 Georgia

First-round games

On campus, Dec. 19 and 20

No. 12 Tulane (American champ) at No. 5 Texas Tech (Big 12 champ)
No. 11 GT (ACC champ) at No. 6 Ole Miss
No. 10 Alabama at No. 7 Oregon
No. 9 Notre Dame at No. 8 Oklahoma

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We need help
 
tdubs_truckernutz said:
Even if ESPN puts us in for now because well still eligable for the ACC championship. Who ever wins the acc championship will take that spot. we win out and we dont creep close enought to ND we are still not in. So we need byu, alabama, oklahoma, or utah to lose enough for us to get close to ND and take their spot
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This is on the mark. Not getting into ACC title game, so we need to jump three spots & get to 10th if want to be in playoffs.
 
tdubs_truckernutz said:
espn is pencling in miami as the ACC champ as per below:
No. 1 Ohio State (Big Ten champ)
No. 2 Indiana
No. 3 Texas A&M (SEC champ)
No. 4 Georgia

First-round games

On campus, Dec. 19 and 20

No. 12 Tulane (American champ) at No. 5 Texas Tech (Big 12 champ)
No. 11 Miami (ACC champ) at No. 6 Ole Miss
No. 10 Alabama at No. 7 Oregon
No. 9 Notre Dame at No. 8 Oklahoma
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Lets say GT wins the ACC the it will look like this:
No. 1 Ohio State (Big Ten champ)
No. 2 Indiana
No. 3 Texas A&M (SEC champ)
No. 4 Georgia

First-round games

On campus, Dec. 19 and 20

No. 12 Tulane (American champ) at No. 5 Texas Tech (Big 12 champ)
No. 11 GT (ACC champ) at No. 6 Ole Miss
No. 10 Alabama at No. 7 Oregon
No. 9 Notre Dame at No. 8 Oklahoma

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We need help
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
I don’t see this. Explain it to me like I’m in third grade.
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Juanka said:
I think what he is saying is that if we win the ACC, we will rank at least 8. Correct me if I am wrong @Page305
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What I'm saying is... we don't need to be in th ACC title game. I figured as long as we finish at least #8 in the final rankings, we'll be in. ESPN says we need to be #10.

More teams ranked ahead of us will lose in the next two weeks. And also the losers of the conference games(whoever are ranked ahead of us) will fall behind us as well( as long as we win our next 2).

So if the top 4 spots goes to the conference champs. And then the other spot goes to the highest ranked outside the P4. That leaves 7 spots left right?


Btw I have done absolutely ZERO research on this lol. I just saw the rankings quickly and came up with my own conclusion within 5mins. Take it easy on me.
 
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tdubs_truckernutz said:
www.espn.com

CFP Bubble Watch: Texas is toast, Bama's on the border

Trying to make sense of the constantly evolving playoff picture, conference by conference.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
i

Last team in: Miami. The No. 13 Canes are listed here because they are the selection committee's highest-ranked ACC team and are still mathematically eligible to reach the conference championship game. Until the participants of that game are clear, the committee's highest-ranked ACC team will continue to appear here. With six teams still in contention, the most fair representative is the committee's. Still, Miami's best chance at reaching the CFP right now is through an at-large bid because the Canes only have a 7.1% chance to reach the ACC title game. To get that at-large bid, Miami still needs to beat both Virginia Tech and Pitt and hope for losses above it to move into the top 10. The ACC champion will earn the No. 11 seed and the Group of 5 champion will have the No. 12 seed, so Miami needs to jump to No. 10 by Selection Day. It's not inconceivable if Alabama loses to Auburn, BYU loses to Cincinnati and Utah loses to either K-State or at Kansas. It will take more than one of those things -- if not all three. The question will be if the committee ever revisits Miami's head-to-head win against Notre Dame in the season opener. The Canes would likely have to creep closer to the Irish in their ranking for them to be comparable enough to use that tiebreaker. Georgia Tech can clinch a spot in the game with a win against Pitt on Saturday, and Virginia can clinch with losses by Duke, Pitt and SMU.
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SCarolina Ibis said:
We need BYU to lose. Utah has two losses, one is to BYU. If BYU loses, I think we jump both of them.

Beyond that we probably have to hope it comes down to us vs ND. What could go wrong?
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BYU loses to Cincy; Cincy becomes ranked again; too bad Miami — you just have too many bad losses!

But fr — we are dependent on Utah’s AD who is repping the BIG12 and just entered the room. The bad losses justification is a fiction. A pure fiction. Vandy has two good losses and we jumped them for beating NC State. Huh? They didn’t even wait for us to beat NC state in order for us to jump GTech. They are just ******* around out there.
 



I doubt it's this simple but hey it's in writing

BYU, Oklahoma, Alabama all could lose
 
407cane said:



I doubt it's this simple but hey it's in writing

BYU, Oklahoma, Alabama all could lose
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If a team above Notre dame loses then they get kicked into a different bucket and theyre even further from us. We need to move up 3 spots or we’re fucjed
 
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Its actually crazy how much the committee is trying to move heaven and earth to prevent Miami from being in.

Ignoring wins to focus on quality of losses for some teams.

Ignoring head to head wins.

Ignoring sos to focus on record for some teams.

Its not just moving the goal posts, its selectively applying different rules for each team in order to justify having them in.

The entire thing is working to essentially keep their bluebloods in and keep Miami out.

Just remember:

Its more important to Mario to lose by running up the middle in condensed sets, than it is to breeze into the post-season by running a regular, vanilla offense.

This will be the story every year until this Ret ard is held accountable by the school, or until he leaves.
 
The committee is just human votes. Whether they admit it or not, they are influenced by outside sources. If Miami continues to win out, the already loud discussion about good wins vs good losses will continue to get louder and influence the rankings more.

Where people get it wrong is that the CFP is not a mathematical equation. There’s no formula where wins, strength of schedule and various other statistics are thrown in and teams get a numerical score. It’s literally just people writing a list of their opinions. It’s all politics. The goal is to sway opinion not score hypothetical points in a numerical algorithm. The more people talk about what’s going on with Miami getting punished for losses but not rewarded for wins (and it’s not just Miami fans making this point), the more likely the committee is to bumping the Hurricanes up a spot or two. If public pressure makes at least some of the committee members uncomfortable with their rankings, things will change.
 
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