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Not buying the (FSU) hype

I have them down as a 9-3/10-2 team. They’ll be good.

They’ve got somewhere near ~85% of their offensive production returning. They’ve got some solid production returning on defense, but their secondary is a question mark in some areas. They’ll go as high as Travis takes them. If he stays healthy they can reach that ceiling. They were absurdly lucky last year with injuries and had a bunch of bounces go their way. They also benefited by some choke jobs from opposing teams (e.g., LSU & Louisville).

I think the real drop for them will be 2024. They’ll be losing all their proven returning pieces from this year, and they haven’t done well enough recruiting wise to sustain a double digit level of wins. The last three years they’ve averaged the 20th ranked class in the country. Highest class they’ve had was last year’s at #19. The portal is a big reason for their success, but look at Mel Tucker and see what happens when one transfer class doesn’t work out.

All in all I think they go 9-3. I think that they lose to LSU, Clemson, and someone else. They’ll be good and in very game. 10-2 is very possible. However, if Travis goes down for any significant amount of time they’re screwed. If Travis and Coleman goes down, they’ll crater.
 
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RightSaidFred said:
Miami is going to destroy FSU. I think we beat them by 2 touchdowns easily. We're the more talented team. By the time we play them, we'll be favored in that game. FSU is majorly overrated
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I could see that really happening but only if nobody sees us coming and FSU is undefeated or 1 loss and hyped to the stars. This is what I think sets up the best for us. This will be our 9th game and we will most likely be 5-3 or 6-2 going in and hopefully beginning to really gel. Would be glorious!
 
Jaxcane4 said:
If rushing isn't considered a stat anymore you're right. If it is add 400 rushing yards and 7Tds. The ability to be a mobile threat in college foot ball is a game changer.
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TVD did those stats in 10 games vs Travis in 13. Extrapolate TVDs stats over that same 13 games and his stats are better than Travis even when considering the running aspect.

Your comment about being "crazy" to think TVD could have a better season was cuck material.
 
ssvir said:
TVD did those stats in 10 games vs Travis in 13. Extrapolate TVDs stats over that same 13 games and his stats are better than Travis even when considering the running aspect.

Your comment about being "crazy" to think TVD could have a better season was cuck material.
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That also was with a Lashlee offense where there was no running. You need to take into account we will be running alot more this year vs the year where we were just throwing it up to Rambo. I also anticipate we won't be clicking on all cylinders in the beginning.

But hey if you think TVD is going to throw for 4,000 yards to make up for no rushing yards this season we all will be happy. Sometimes O&G shades blind you to logic.
 
FSU is preseason unanimous #1 and has 11 consensus All-Americans on both sides of the ball. They should be favored by double digits every week.
 
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Jaxcane4 said:
That also was with a Lashlee offense where there was no running. You need to take into account we will be running alot more this year vs the year where we were just throwing it up to Rambo. I also anticipate we won't be clicking on all cylinders in the beginning.

But hey if you think TVD is going to throw for 4,000 yards to make up for no rushing yards this season we all will be happy. Sometimes O&G shades blind you to logic.
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That's not at all what I said .... I said you are an FSU cuck for saying anyone would be "crazy" to pick TVD stats over Travis' and then I showed that stats were very similar from 2021 TVD to 2022 Travis. Now you're moving the goalposts. Enjoy your day.
 
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ssvir said:
Pure cuckold commentary here.

Travis stats last year ..... 64.0% completions 3,214 yds passing 24 TDs 5 INTS 160.1 QB Rating

TVD stats in 2021 .... 62.3% completions 2,931 yds passing 25 TDs 6 INTS 160.1 QB Rating
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Might be worth mentioning TVD only started 9 games in 2021 and played in 10.

Edit: You mentioned this elsewhere. Disregard.
 
Angry Ibis said:
The hype has them as a playoff contender, so there will be Miami fans that mock them if they have a good season, but don’t reach that level….whether they beat us and are generally better than we are or not…

Because some just love talking **** and we have nothing to talk **** about other than others failures … which is funny when they are 5-7, not when they win 9 or 10 and smack us around…

To each their own…

Let’s just ******* beat them…on the field, at recruiting (all recruiting), as a school, with resources … everything … that will speak for itself…
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Jaxcane4 said:
That also was with a Lashlee offense where there was no running. You need to take into account we will be running alot more this year vs the year where we were just throwing it up to Rambo. I also anticipate we won't be clicking on all cylinders in the beginning.

But hey if you think TVD is going to throw for 4,000 yards to make up for no rushing yards this season we all will be happy. Sometimes O&G shades blind you to logic.
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Huge differences for UM in 2023 are:

-Dramatically improved OL personnel group.
-Dramatically improved OC with experience calling plays and "scheming WR's open".
-OC that can incorporate the run game into an effective passing game.

UM passing yards per game 2022 = 239 yards per game (#60 ranked passing offense).
UM rushing yards per game 2022 = 128 yards per game (# 96 ranked rushing offense).

Given the improved scheme, OL, and a better overall WR group, as well as solid TE and deeper RB group, it is not out of the realm of
realistic possibilities that UM is able to average 300 yards per game passing (3600 for the season) and 175 yards per game rushing (2,100 yards
for the 12 game regular season) for a total 5700 yards of offense (475 yards per game) which would put UM into the top 20 programs nationally in
total offense. (2022 season top 20 teams averaged 460 yards up as high as 525).

The personnel grouping is there for Miami to have a top 20 offense. We will see ... should be an exciting season. There have been some very positive comments regarding some of the WR's working hard and doing very well. Then the TE group ... Arroyo is healthy, Skinner is gradually putting on a bit of weight (still more of a WR than TE), and Riley Williams, true freshman, 6'7" and 230 pounds, should be a monster mismatch and could really turn out to be very productive.
 
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They performed over expectation last year...but they've gotten a lot better on paper and they got some trump card players. Having to account for Johnny Wilson ******* sucks. Now they got Keon Coleman? sheesh. thats tough.

Their success or failure comes down to injuries and corching. They are flawed like all of the ACC, but the roster is good.

With that said, there is no reason why Miami can't beat this team if Miami has their **** together. Its a good, high scoring game on paper.
 
They'll win 9 games.

But they've got an interesting schedule in the sense that you'll know by the end of September whether or not they're going to be a potential playoff team. They play LSU and Clemson in the first 4 games. If they're 4-0, they'll be in the Top 5 easily and favored to win the ACC/go to the playoff. If they're 3-1, they'll still have a lot of hype and will probably have a very good year. If they're 2-2, they could likely crater and lose at least 1 more game, likely more.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
They'll win 9 games.

But they've got an interesting schedule in the sense that you'll know by the end of September whether or not they're going to be a potential playoff team. They play LSU and Clemson in the first 4 games. If they're 4-0, they'll be in the Top 5 easily and favored to win the ACC/go to the playoff. If they're 3-1, they'll still have a lot of hype and will probably have a very good year. If they're 2-2, they could likely crater and lose at least 1 more game, likely more.
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If they're a playoff team I'll change my username to whatever one of our trolls wants me to for a month.
 
Felonious Monk said:
If they're a playoff team I'll change my username to whatever one of our trolls wants me to for a month.
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I'm with you, but they're a 2 point dog to LSU and a 2.5 dog at Clemson. If they win both those games, and they're 4-0, they're going to be a big favorite to win the league and make the playoff.

I think LSU gets them in Orlando though. Brian Kelly is a murderer, but he's a really good coach, and they have a legit QB, a first-round WR, and two first-round defensive linemen, along with probably the best linebacker in the country. FSU has a good bit of talent and I think they'll have a good team, but LSU has still recruited really well like they always do and Kelly is good at what he does.
 
FL Cane said:
I have them down as a 9-3/10-2 team. They’ll be good.

They’ve got somewhere near ~85% of their offensive production returning. They’ve got some solid production returning on defense, but their secondary is a question mark in some areas. They’ll go as high as Travis takes them. If he stays healthy they can reach that ceiling. They were absurdly lucky last year with injuries and had a bunch of bounces go their way. They also benefited by some choke jobs from opposing teams (e.g., LSU & Louisville).

I think the real drop for them will be 2024. They’ll be losing all their proven returning pieces from this year, and they haven’t done well enough recruiting wise to sustain a double digit level of wins. The last three years they’ve averaged the 20th ranked class in the country. Highest class they’ve had was last year’s at #19. The portal is a big reason for their success, but look at Mel Tucker and see what happens when one transfer class doesn’t work out.

All in all I think they go 9-3. I think that they lose to LSU, Clemson, and someone else. They’ll be good and in very game. 10-2 is very possible. However, if Travis goes down for any significant amount of time they’re screwed. If Travis and Coleman goes down, they’ll crater.
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I think this is 100% on point. Travis has come a long way from 2020-21. Unless he goes down, they should be competitive in every game of theirs. They have one of the best skill position groups in the country with Jordan, Benson, Miller and Coleman. Their DL is also quite good. don't know much about their back 7.As for OL, not sure either except that they're virtually all portals. Heck, their entire offense are portals.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I'm with you, but they're a 2 point dog to LSU and a 2.5 dog at Clemson. If they win both those games, and they're 4-0, they're going to be a big favorite to win the league and make the playoff.

I think LSU gets them in Orlando though. Brian Kelly is a murderer, but he's a really good coach, and they have a legit QB, a first-round WR, and two first-round defensive linemen, along with probably the best linebacker in the country. FSU has a good bit of talent and I think they'll have a good team, but LSU has still recruited really well like they always do and Kelly is good at what he does.
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I think it's more hype than substance. They'll be exposed and start 0-1.

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