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BALLHAWKU said:
Golden was under sanctions ,he had it way harder , Diaz just sucked all around . Nc put up like 500 yards on the ground against us like we was a little league team . Diaz laid down to bama before the game was even played . Diaz is Dog **** and I hope fsu gets him . They’ll suck another 5 years under Diaz
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Diaz has an ACC title and the media loves him....will be an easy PR win for Noles...make it happen!!!
 
Manny Diaz would be an upgrade over Mike Norvell but going from absolute garbage to just regular garbage isn’t a big jump.

Manny win percentage at Miami: .583
Norvell win percentage at FSU: .528
 
DTP said:
Manny Diaz would be an upgrade over Mike Norvell but going from absolute garbage to just regular garbage isn’t a big jump.

Manny win percentage at Miami: .583
Norvell win percentage at FSU: .528
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What was Diaz record against Mike when he coached for us. Diaz is dog **** with his 190 pound lbs . Please let this happen
 
cf3000 said:
The idea Bama was interested in Norvell has to be one of the great con jobs in history.
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Include their "interest" in TVD
Think Tim Robinson GIF by NETFLIX
 
Yoyo423 said:
And then the Bama win last year to give him another year.
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No, it didn't. What bought him another year is they literally can't afford to fire him. If we beat them bad enough maybe that'll be the straw and their aluimni will start selling theri own kidneys on the black market.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
This is very simple.

TREMENDOUSLY talented. Ahead of his time. His writing during the 1960s and most of the 1970s was groundbreaking, and even as his chemical usage was growing, he still had clarity of thought and purpose. I even liked The Curse of Lono (I have a relatively rare copy of the book), which was written around 1980.

And if HST only wrote his first 4 books, plus his articles in Rolling Stone, then I believe the quality of his production exceeds JD Salinger and is the equal of Ernest Hemingway, particularly in the impact on a generation of readers.

Did the booze and drugs have an impact on his diminishing returns? Yes. I think he became so enamored with what he accomplished in the 60s and 70s that it was almost like he had to live up to that, doing more and more extreme stuff.

But I also think that the election of Nixon and the disappearance of Oscar Zeta Acosta made him increasingly paranoid and isolated. And his fame made it harder and harder to do Gonzo journalism, because he was no longer some anonymous crank writer, he was a guy whose fame made it very hard for him to be as observational as he once was, even if his journalism was always participatory too.

To use a similarly-timed comparison, I would look to David Bowie. His first 10 albums from the late 1960s up through Low (recorded in 1976 but the record company delayed it until 1977) were amazing works of art, but were increasingly impacted by Bowie's drug use. He says there are times he can't even remember. He moved to Berlin with Iggy Pop to detox, and I love the "Berlin Trilogy" (impacted heavily by Brian Eno) that came out of his heroin detox. But for the rest of Bowie's post-drug-use career, I think the only full albums that I care about are Scary Monsters and Let's Dance. He produced a lot of good SONGS over the next 30-40 years, but was never as consistently productive AND GOOD as he was during his first 10 years or so. And even Let's Dance had a LOT to do with the contributions of Nile Rodgers and Stevie Ray Vaughn.

I don't think people tend to discount the quality of rock and roll music that was produced under the influence of drugs/alcohol. So why do it with writers? HST's first 20 years of writing...were breathtaking. The rest was admittedly not as good. Hemingway fell off in his later years. Salinger disappeared and became a hermit.

Is the myth of HST buttressed by drugs and alcohol and guns and anger? Sure. But he had a tremendous body of work in his first 20 productive years, so I think his status is well-earned.
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**** good articúlate post on several iconic figures
 
aelmiami said:
Seeing what they are going through makes me respect Golden and Manny a lot more. Sure, they were idiots. But never to this level. They at least could make us lie and believe to ourselves somewhat. FSU is completely cooked.
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But what if we had Golden and Manny now, in NIL times? Do we think they would have done as well? Assume they had no money, like Norvell.
 
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