lol cribby and I have said it. we placed blame on both. the coaching is bad and the play by the players has been bad. I think the players are letting the coaches down with stupid mistakes (fumbles, drops, etc.) and then coaches are letting players down with schematics (putting players in certain spots). its a combo of both. the roster isnt this bad (well now it is w the injuries). Mario is never known to be a game day savant. he doesn't win out coaching you. he wins by out talenting you. hes just gotta recruit kids and allow his coordinators to do what they do without any input from the ol coach