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Coach Macho said:
But you haven't said how you feel "dawg". You haven't said anything of substance.
You feel differently about Florida having the best football players?
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Florida has a built in advantage. Football is played all year round I expect you all to have the best players, most invites to everything football related. I'm not on here to pick a side dawg you acting like a female with that. I just said like my first post you on here gloating. You still a sucka to me talking about kill yourself. I ain't never heard a city dude talk like that.
 
jw410 said:
Florida has a built in advantage. Football is played all year round I expect you all to have the best players, most invites to everything football related. I'm not on here to pick a side dawg you acting like a female with that. I just said like my first post you on here gloating. You still a sucka to me talking about kill yourself. I ain't never heard a city dude talk like that.
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Dumb *****, Cali and Texas can play football year around too, yet there they are below Florida.

Where the fvck are you from dude?
 
Coach Macho said:
Dumb *****, Cali and Texas can play football year around too, yet there they are below Florida.

Where the fvck are you from dude?
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Goofy.. I was born in Philly, grew up in Baltimore and now I'm in DC. . I live this life. You are such a soft dude. Gloating over numbers, always thinking you know sh*t. All these places would eat your lunch you county boy!
 
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Had a long flight and I was bored, so I went through the list and wrote down the original recruiting star rating for each of the OL who've been invited to the NFL combine. It's not perfect, but I figured it's about a good a metric as we have in determining the top performing college OL.

I also added up the number of available stars for each of the OC, OG and OT positions according to 247. For this I used the number of available stars for the OL three positions back in 2015 when the average 2019 combine invitee would have been a college recruit. I know some of these kids started college in 2014 and some started in 2016, but I picked 2015. (This led to the anomaly of four total 5 star OL recruits in 2015 but five 5 star recruits being invited to the combine in 2009.) While all this is not precisely correct, I think the sample size enough to provide a valuable insight.

The results:

1. In 2015 there were 336 5 star, 4 star and 3 star recruits for all of the OC, OG and OT positions. Of the 336 total, there were:

4 total 5 star OC, OG and OT recruits
58 total 4 star OC, OG and OT recruits
274 total 3 star OC, OG and OT recruits

2. In 2019 the number of recruits by star ratings who were invited to the combine are:

5 former 5 star OC, OG and OT recruits were invited to the combine, or 125% of all 5 stars
16 former 4 star OC, OG and OT recruits were invited to the combine, or 28% of all 4 stars
21 former 3 star OC, OG and OT recruits were invited to the combine, or 8% of all 3 stars

3. Conclusion:

There were slightly more 3 star kids invited to the combine (21) than 4 star kids (16), and way more than 5 star kids (5).

But we know that the rankings are a measure of the probability of college success. And in this regard the star ratings are distributed as one would expect. Specifically, if a school signs a 5 star OC, OG or OT recruit there is a 125% chance that player will have performed well enough in college to be invited to the NFL. (The 125% is an anomaly due to overlapping years of a given Jr, Sr or RS-Sr players declaring. This would be altered for the 2018 and 2020 combines.) If a school signs a 4 star OC, OG or OT recruit there is a 28% chance he'll play well enough in college to be invited to the combine. And lastly a 3 star recruit would have a 8% probability he'll be invited to the combine.

When we sign a 3 star OL there certainly is a chance he will play very well, well enough to be invited to the combine. Specifically there is an 8% chance of that happening. So for every twelve 3 star OL we sign, one player should be invited to the combine. And signing a 4 star OL certainly doesn't guarantee he will perform well enough college so as to be invited to the combine, but the odds are better at 28%. So basically a little better than one out of every four 4 star OL should play well enough to be invited to the combine. The sample size for 5 stars is so small that the results might not be meaningful year-over-year. But in 2015 there were four total 5 star OL recruits, and four years later in 2019 there are five 5 star OL invited to the combine.

So where it comes to the OL, stars seem to matter if one accepts the a combine invitation is a good proxy for college performance.

Misc: There were also six 2 stars and 6 non-rated players invited to the combine. I don't know the universe of 2 stars and non-rated players so I didn't do the same analysis, but I'd expect the probabilities are minuscule.
 
Coach Macho said:
Yet somehow Florida winds up in the lead despite having MILLIONS less than Texas and Cali.
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You are actually looking at it the correct way. On a per capita basis, those two states aren’t even close to Florida. I’m too lazy to look it up, but the other couple of states to look at as far as per capita talent, would be Georgia and Louisiana.
 
jw410 said:
Goofy.. I was born in Philly, grew up in Baltimore and now I'm in DC. . I live this life. You are such a soft dude. Gloating over numbers, always thinking you know sh*t. All these places would eat your lunch you county boy!
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Explains everything.
 
jw410 said:
Goofy.. I was born in Philly, grew up in Baltimore and now I'm in DC. . I live this life. You are such a soft dude. Gloating over numbers, always thinking you know sh*t. All these places would eat your lunch you county boy!
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Thats a fact. I been to all 3 cities and all of them breed tougher guys than Miami. This isn't boxing or war. This is football. Making it to the NFL doesn't mean you are tough. Not even close. All it means is you are very talented and have a good work ethic.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
You are actually looking at it the correct way. On a per capita basis, those two states aren’t even close to Florida. I’m too lazy to look it up, but the other couple of states to look at as far as per capita talent, would be Georgia and Louisiana.
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Great guess. Feldman posted this earlier and it confirms Louisiana and Georgia produce the most per Capita(unless you count DC).

 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
Thats a fact. I been to all 3 cities and all of them breed tougher guys than Miami. This isn't boxing or war. This is football. Making it to the NFL doesn't mean you are tough. Not even close. All it means is you are very talented and have a good work ethic.
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Crazy.
You can't make it to the NFL being soft. There's a mental AND physical toughness that is required to make it that far.

Remind me what that STA versus Dematha score was again. 35-0?
You're telling me there was no toughness involved in that victory?
That same STA team got whooped by a public school in central Florida.
 
Coach Macho said:
Crazy.
You can't make it to the NFL being soft. There's a mental AND physical toughness that is required to make it that far.

Remind me what that STA versus Dematha score was again. 35-0?
You're telling me there was no toughness involved in that victory?
That same STA team got whooped by a public school in central Florida.
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If you are talented enough and work hard you can make it to the NFL while being soft. That said, there is a middle ground between soft and tough. Its not like anyone who isn't tough is automatically soft.

What part of making it to the NFL do you consider "being tough". Is it waking up every morning and practicing even if you don't want to? That is work ethic not being tough.

The only "tough" part of playing football is getting up after a hard hit, playing when injured, etc. And none of that is really what I would call being tough. Anyone who isn't a straight up ***** can get up after getting hit hard or play through an injury.

I know that Florida pumps out the most NFL players. I know they have the best football athletes. I agree with you there, but when you pop into every single thread about it with "This proves that Miami players aren't soft is BS". You can be the toughest kid in the world but runa 7.0 40 and weak and never even sniff the NFL.

Then you can be soft, but run a 4.4 40 while being strong as **** and end up making the NFL.
 
Coach Macho said:
Crazy.
You can't make it to the NFL being soft. There's a mental AND physical toughness that is required to make it that far.

Remind me what that STA versus Dematha score was again. 35-0?
You're telling me there was no toughness involved in that victory?
That same STA team got whooped by a public school in central Florida.
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Now it's remind you of what this team did to that team in this year. Gotcha.. So when Dematha routed the same Central team in 2015.. The same Central team that lost to St Johns this year! You got that female selective mindset. You got it I'm out this thread.
And don't send me anymore private messages. Another female trait lmao
 
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