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New Turnover Chain Idea!

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They should definitely make a unique new turnover chain each year and at the end of each year gift it to our Defensive MVP. Rule is that after the first year he has to return it to UM campus to be put on display in a glass case with the players name on it just like our Nattys.

Somebody tell this to Manny Diaz!! Lol
 
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Only reason I'm in favor with this is it promotes a great defensive culture.
But they should make a new song for it every year. Soon as a pick happens and that song plays, everyone gets hype.
 
joshgavidia said:
They should definitely make a unique new turnover chain each year and at the end of each year gift it to our Defensive MVP. Rule is that after the first year he has to return it to UM campus to be put on display in a glass case with the players name on it just like our Nattys.

Somebody tell this to Manny Diaz!! Lol
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Actually a really cool idea. Just wondering how many variations of it you can make.
 
joshgavidia said:
They should definitely make a unique new turnover chain each year and at the end of each year gift it to our Defensive MVP. Rule is that after the first year he has to return it to UM campus to be put on display in a glass case with the players name on it just like our Nattys.

Somebody tell this to Manny Diaz!! Lol
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They can't. At one time I heard the amount of gold in that chain - and the melted value was rather significant. And students can't be awarded large cash value gifts.

Now if they make one out of plastic or aluminum - sure. But then, it's a piece of crap.

Design a new one, and at the end of the year auction it off - and use the money for the football program.
 
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I have proposed this before but I think there should be two chains. One for the player who caused the turnover, and one for the players who got it. If it’s the same player for both, he should wear 2 chains.
 
We could always go with my original idea. The bejeweled codpiece:

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UMFarArcher said:
They can't. At one time I heard the amount of gold in that chain - and the melted value was rather significant. And students can't be awarded large cash value gifts.

Now if they make one out of plastic or aluminum - sure. But then, it's a piece of crap.

Design a new one, and at the end of the year auction it off - and use the money for the football program.
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1) It's not THAT valuable. I think it was during a Gameday segment that they visited the jeweler and he confirmed using a lot of alloys to keep the cost down. It's probably not as valuable as a National Championship ring/trophy, and the value for either intact in all likelihood exceeds the scrap value.

2) Nothing the NCAA can do about a gift once the player is no longer on the team.

3) Pretty sure it's been stated the original one will be auctioned off.
 
CashMoneyCane said:
1) It's not THAT valuable. I think it was during a Gameday segment that they visited the jeweler and he confirmed using a lot of alloys to keep the cost down. It's probably not as valuable as a National Championship ring/trophy, and the value for either intact in all likelihood exceeds the scrap value.

2) Nothing the NCAA can do about a gift once the player is no longer on the team.

3) Pretty sure it's been stated the original one will be auctioned off.
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Not what I heard at one time, as it was being described.

It's 10k gold - weighs 2.5kilograms, and is 36 inches long.

There are 32 troy ounces in a kilo, and if one assumes that gold is $1298 per troy ounce - just one kilo in that chain in gold alone is worth $17,306.67.

Seventeen thousand if you just melted and sold the gold.

That's why you see it secured in a box, and kept on hand by someone on the sideline.

It's expensive.

And THAT'S just one kilogram. This weighs 2.5 kilograms.
 
I think this year for the turnover chain they should honor Malek Young. They could keep the same chain, but take the “U” emblem off the chain and put a “12” on resembling Malek Young’s 12. You could make the “1” in orange and the “2” in green. Malek Young was the first ever recipient of the turnover chain and it would also be like its a 12th man symbol, as Malek Young is not playing with us anymore but we appreciate everything he did for us.
 
UMFarArcher said:
Not what I heard at one time, as it was being described.

It's 10k gold - weighs 2.5kilograms, and is 36 inches long.

There are 32 troy ounces in a kilo, and if one assumes that gold is $1298 per troy ounce - just one kilo in that chain in gold alone is worth $17,306.67.

Seventeen thousand if you just melted and sold the gold.

That's why you see it secured in a box, and kept on hand by someone on the sideline.

It's expensive.

And THAT'S just one kilogram. This weighs 2.5 kilograms.
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Theres so much wrong with this I hardly know where to start. What you heard online is wrong. It is NOT solid gold. Also, bid vs offer on gold are not the same thing. So your math is wrong too.

The value of the emeralds is probably higher than the value of the gold used.

Regardless, the value is completely irrelevant as a gift to a former player. It could he worth a billion dollars and doesn't matter if the person receiving it is not on the roster.
 
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UMFarArcher said:
Not what I heard at one time, as it was being described.

It's 10k gold - weighs 2.5kilograms, and is 36 inches long.

There are 32 troy ounces in a kilo, and if one assumes that gold is $1298 per troy ounce - just one kilo in that chain in gold alone is worth $17,306.67.

Seventeen thousand if you just melted and sold the gold.

That's why you see it secured in a box, and kept on hand by someone on the sideline.

It's expensive.

And THAT'S just one kilogram. This weighs 2.5 kilograms.
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He created a 36-inch chain of 10K gold mixed with alloys to keep the cost down. He then designed a six and a half inch “U” medallion encrusted with 900 small sapphire stones — 450 orange, 450 green. Machado would not reveal the price of the jewelry. He will say only that he charged the UM athletic department “a hometown discount."

How five-and-a-half pounds of 10K gold has helped UM reclaim its swagger

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CashMoneyCane said:
Theres so much wrong with this I hardly know where to start. What you heard online is wrong. It is NOT solid gold. Also, bid vs offer on gold are not the same thing. So your math is wrong too.

The value of the emeralds is probably higher than the value of the gold used.

Regardless, the value is completely irrelevant as a gift to a former player. It could he worth a billion dollars and doesn't matter if the person receiving it is not on the roster.
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Hey! Genius! Do you have a friggin' clue what 10k gold is?

It's not 24k solid gold - that would be really soft and weak - but it's solid 10k gold! Why in Hades you think it weighs 2.5 kg?

My math is right - based on the last price of gold. If you want - go ahead and discount the 5% normal discount.

One other thing - jenius - they're green and orange SAPPHIRES - not emeralds - got it? 900 sapphires, to be exact.

You were absolutely accurate - on nothing.

You were wrong on every single point you made.

If I tell you a duck can pull a truck - don't argue - just hook it up.
 
CashMoneyCane said:
He created a 36-inch chain of 10K gold mixed with alloys to keep the cost down. He then designed a six and a half inch “U” medallion encrusted with 900 small sapphire stones — 450 orange, 450 green. Machado would not reveal the price of the jewelry. He will say only that he charged the UM athletic department “a hometown discount."

How five-and-a-half pounds of 10K gold has helped UM reclaim its swagger
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This is so sideways - you've never bought or sold jewelry, have you?

You don't take 10k gold - and mix it with alloys. What alloys are you thinking of? Be? Ti? Fe?

It's already been cut - likely with copper. Because it's easy to separate with nitric acid. The last thing you want to use is other metals, other than silver. ****.

You obviously looked some of this stuff up since you changed the stones from emerald to sapphire.
 
UMFarArcher said:
This is so sideways - you've never bought or sold jewelry, have you?

You don't take 10k gold - and mix it with alloys. What alloys are you thinking of? Be? Ti? Fe?

It's already been cut - likely with copper. Because it's easy to separate with nitric acid. The last thing you want to use is other metals, other than silver. ****.

You obviously looked some of this stuff up since you changed the stones from emerald to sapphire.
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Wow. Read the article. That quote was DIRECTLY FROM THE ARTICLE.

Have you ever bought or sold anything? The price you pay for it vs the price you get for it are two different things. This is called a bid-ask spread. In commodities, of which gold is one, the price asked by retailers is LESS than what they will pay for it from a private party. If you knew so much about jewelry, you would know this.

Once again, your math is wrong based on your ignorance of buying vs selling prices and your refusal to accept that it's not solid gold, despite the fact I provided a source who interviewed the jeweler directly that said so.
 
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