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Jaromir Jagr

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You now the truth. You're just being dishonest as usual.
Now (sic) the truth about what? There is nothing dishonest here. We are 4-0 against horrid baseball teams, so here you come.
 

Jaromir Jagr

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National seed and CWS in back-to-back years (2015-16).

The reason why you ignore that is because you desperately want to claim to be "right" about things and yet you were loudly wrong about those years.
And we weren't great in either of those years. Why is that so hard to admit. Do I have to break down the paper tiger ACC in those years AGAIN for you?
 

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No, I think this team would be just as (potentially) good if Jim Morris was still in the dugout.

The roster turned over which is what most rational people knew needed to happen after 2016.
Correct, most people knew, but somehow the people in charge of roster management mangled it so badly that we ended up missing the postseason twice.
 

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I will be banned again soon. Just like I was for most of two years.

Nobody is afraid to exchange with you about this stuff. Please.
And no one is afraid of you, either. You're a UM coach shill, no matter how bad they are.
 

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Which has been your narrative to cover for those years.

Par for the course.

You have no objective standards. Just "feel" and emotion.
Or pure stats which show that we earned our national seed based on an overrated ACC.
 

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This is really stupid.

By the time roster purgatory had been reached (2016) it was already baked in the cake. Your JUCO rant was one of your dumber takes.

The recruiting "misses" and attrition had already doomed the roster and only new recruiting classes could fix it.
Does it matter WHEN they screwed up the roster? Either way, they screwed up the roster.

Instead of taking one on the chin for ONE year, they panicked and brought in bad JUCO players, which set us back for a SECOND year. This is painfully obvious, but you would never see that.
 

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Jim Morris was not bad by any standard.

And neither is Gino.
You insist on looking at Jim Bowden's entire career, as though no one could ever see a decline in how good they are.
 

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Stats are your worst argument on this.

The 2015 team was a 50-win national seed which won the regular season in the #2 conference, reached the CWS and finished 2nd nationally in OBP.

You look like a clown arguing this.
Right, the #2 conference according to your precious RPI. It's a circular argument.
 

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Context always matters especially when it comes to critiquing your super dumb JUCO rant from last year.

When you have a combination of factors like we had in 2016 the only way you can try to mitigate it is to take JUCO players and hope they pan out.

We've had 3 or 4 occasions where top-heavy rosters (like 2015-16) forced us to sign small classes. In the other instances we had insanely high hit rates. Like way above normal. That helped us avoid a situation like 2017-18.

Somehow I feel like Gino DiMare will never make up for 2017-18 in your eyes.

Because I remember in 2016 you were saying "but 2012!"
Actually it's the opposite. When people pointed out all of the failures over the last 10+ years, your only retort was "but 2001!"
 

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What's painfully obvious is that this claim makes no sense.

What does "taking it on the chin" even mean? You can't accelerate recruiting classes. You can't get Zamora's class to enroll early. You recruit the best you can every year. Sometimes you're put into a hole. No amount of "taking it on the chin" can accelerate the roster turnover.
You're in sports and you don't know what taking it on the chin means?

Having a down year is common, even among elite programs. But most programs don't mangle it so badly that they turn it into two bad years.
 

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So based on the metric used by the NCAA.

And the ACC was #2 in the ISR as well.

Again, clown.
And, as usual, we beat up on the bad ACC teams, lost to the good ACC teams and Florida, and it showed in Omaha when we finally got around to playing a quality team or two.
 

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I really want an answer for this.

How did taking JUCO players in 2017 set the program back a second year?

It's a completely nonsensical point.
Because the JUCO players were so useless that we didn't make any progress forward as a program. Instead of letting young players play and, here it is again, taking one season on the chin, we panicked. That meant playing a young, inexperienced roster in 2018 instead of in 2017 and missing a second postseason.

This is so obvious that you have to be arguing out of boredom. Brandon F'ing Gali?
 

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I love how he's arguing as though "roster purgatory" is something that just happened and was out of anyone's control.
 

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Wrong.

I was point out...."now"

You were whining about 2012 in 2016 and saying that the current team wasn't really good.
Kind of like how you're celebrating the 2015 season even though we are currently...currently...on a zero year postseason streak.
 

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You're use of that term makes no sense.

It's not as if you can just "take it on the chin" and magically Zamora's class shows up sooner or the class that you ALREADY signed (the Cabezas one) will magically improve.
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Right, it takes a little foresight to manage the roster. And there is no such thing as a class that has "already signed". Baseball recruiting is the most fluid of any sport.
 

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We out-scored and out-hit Florida, Louisville and Florida State but lost 2-1 in those series' because of.......baseball. The FSU series being the most egregious with the ground rule double call losing the Friday game for us.

You of all people should understand this but strangely don't.
Yeah, "baseball" has been our worst enemy, hasn't it. We've been mediocre for over a decade because of those darn bad bounces.

When that happens in a series, yeah, bad luck. When it happens for ten years, it's time to examine the program.
 

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Again, how does playing a JUCO kid accelerate good recruiting classes from enrolling?

Care to tell us who these magical players were (who are now juniors) that would've flourished with more ABs that year?
Why are you under the impression that we were forced to take transfers?
 

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The freshmen on the 2017 roster were the draft class of 2016 and so they signed in November 2015.

And so on.

By the time Collins, Abreu, etc left in the summer of 2016, the roster was basically already set.

No amount of your ridiculous arguing will change the facts.
You're thinking from a football mindset. Recruiting classes in baseball change every year at every school. You're not done recruiting in November.
 
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