New CFP Format

Cletus

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It's quite clear that this system is stupid and, if someone were to start something new, this is not what would happen. So, I will propose a different way of doing this that, IMO, is much better.

First, the whole idea of the conferences, which is currently a farce, needs to be nuked. We need to reorganize college football into eight ten team groups. These 80 teams are comprised of the 67 power conference teams, 12 non-power teams, and ND. ND and the 67 power teams are guaranteed to be in every year and the other teams have a relegation/promotion system which I have not spent any time thinking about but needs to exist.

At the end of each season, the 80 eligible teams for the following year are identified and separated into 8 pots of 10 teams and World Cup style draw is held to sort the teams into 8 groups/conferences. Pot 1 is the "seeded" teams so, for example, the top 8 teams at the conclusion of the current seasons's playoffs and the following pots are arranged to try to control for some sort of competitive and regional balance. You do a draw and now you have the groups that will each play a 9 game round robin. The winner of each group gets an auto spot in the playoff and the 2nd and 3rd teams play a play in round for the next eight spots. There are 2-3 non-conference schedule spots available for rivalry games or other traditional match ups that have no bearing on the group results but do play a role in power ratings that will be used for seeding in the playoff and pot assignment the next year so there will be some incentive to play good games like these.

The bracket is then set up like the World Cup where the slots are preassigned and arranged to keep the top teams away from each other and from rematches impossible until late. It takes away most of the seeding subjectivity and like results in a pretty balanced first round and heavyweight games all the rest of the way.

If done correctly, you end up with every group with a fair distribution of teams across the talent and region spectrum which leads to a lot of matches we never see. The result is objective since it was played on the field and doesnt rely on "the eye test" or too much subjectivity that comes from ranking or preconceived notions that the SEC is good therefore all SEC teams end up with a boost. The initial pot assignments have some subjectivity so it's not perfect but better than now. The TV element of this has to be appealing from the draw to the schedule having a few big games every week (no longer does it matter when you win or lose since all games are weighted equally unlike now when an early loss is better than a late loss) to a longer playoff with a likely very good distribution of teams across the whole country.

I am quite sure this would make for a better post-season and I think the constant rearrangement of the groups would make the regular season more fun with different teams on the schedule every year. Allowing for the traditional games is important because tradition is part of the appeal of the sport but it's pretty clear that the traditional element is losing out to the dollars. So, the time is now to lean into that and totally change the way we do things. I think this is the way to do it.
 
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Have Trump be the Football Committee Chairman.

After every NCAA draw have The Village People sing and Dance to Y-M-CA.
 
rondae hollis-jefferson talk GIF
 
Why in h ell should ND be guaranteed to be in?
Because it's the real world and they are one of the major teams in the sport. It would be better to have a true promotion and relegation which would put some of the fringe power conference teams in jeopardy but that's not realistic.
 
@DMoney is right. College Football needs to act like the pros with regional divisions.

West: Oregon, Oregon St., Washington, Wazzu, UCLA, USC, Arizona, ASU, Stanford, Cal, Fresno State.
Southwest: Texas, Texas A&M, OU, OK St., Baylor, Arkansas, SMU, North Texas, TCU, Houston, Arkansas
Central: Colorado, BYU, Texas Tech, Utah, Iowa, Iowa State, Boise St., Kansas, K-State, Nebraska, UNLV
Midwest: Michigan, Michigan St., OSU, Minnesota, Illinois, Northwestern, Cincinnati, Missouri, Wisconsin, Indiana, Purdue
Northeast: Penn St. Notre Dame, Rutgers, Maryland, Virginia Tech, UVA, BC, WVU, JMU, Syracuse, UCONN
Southeast: UF, LSU, Alabama, UGA, UL, Ole Miss, Miss. St., Vanderbilt, Tennessee, UK, Auburn,
South: South Carolina, Miami, FSU, North Carolina, Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest, NC State, USF, UCF, GT,

7 divisions, all regional. 2 division winners from each league. 14 team CFP
each team plays 10 games, 1 game vs each team in division.
these divisions take the power 4 teams plus the good teams from G5.
no conference championships

G5 has their own playoffs and championship.
 
I think they have two ways to go about it.... you legit want to reward teams who go on a magical run, or pull a rabbit out of the hat and in that case you set criteria (like h2h) and you follow it to get rid of the subjective analysis. No it will not be perfect, and yes there will be issues where people argue for exceptions but you get as much objective criteria as you can. I also think baked in should be no more pre-season rankings that artificially inflate a SOS. Same reason I think it is BS we only get credit for 1 CFP top 25 win, yet when we beat put they were ranked and we beat them so they are unranked

or 2. let vegas do power rankings. take the top 12
 
Let's add in a stipulation that if you're bowl eligible and decline a bowl game like a whiny little *****, you're automatically ineligible for the CFP for two years.
 
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Because it's the real world and they are one of the major teams in the sport. It would be better to have a true promotion and relegation which would put some of the fringe power conference teams in jeopardy but that's not realistic.
I realize they are a major team but they should have to earn their way in like every one else
 
I guess I'm not as original as I thought. I do think that getting rid of the regional constraints would make for better competitive balance and gets rid of a relic that was the result of early 20th Century travel difficulties.
 
1) any power 4 team with one loss or fewer following conference championship weekend gets an automatic bid
2) any g5 team with 0 losses following conference championship weekend gets an automatic bid
3) all teams with 2 losses are placed into an Oklahoma playoff bracket. Each team gets to choose its top 7 team members. Competition is completed in one day.
4) if groups 1 and 2 total an even number, then the Oklahoma playoff runner-up has to play a play-in football game at the team they lost the Oklahoma title to.
5) remaining teams compete for a playoff
 
I realize they are a major team but they should have to earn their way in like every one else
The thing is that, given the realties of the sport, most of the teams will have "earned" their way into whatever this evolves into because of historical conference affiliation and not play on the field. ND sucks *** and I'd like nothing more than to see the school close but the historical element and their place in it is real and will mean they are definitely part of whatever comes next.
 
16 teams, only power 4 champions get AQ, G5 can only get in if they are ranked in top 16
 
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@DMoney is right. College Football needs to act like the pros with regional divisions.

West: Oregon, Oregon St., Washington, Wazzu, UCLA, USC, Arizona, ASU, Stanford, Cal, Fresno State.
Southwest: Texas, Texas A&M, OU, OK St., Baylor, Arkansas, SMU, North Texas, TCU, Houston, Arkansas
Central: Colorado, BYU, Texas Tech, Utah, Iowa, Iowa State, Boise St., Kansas, K-State, Nebraska, UNLV
Midwest: Michigan, Michigan St., OSU, Minnesota, Illinois, Northwestern, Cincinnati, Missouri, Wisconsin, Indiana, Purdue
Northeast: Penn St. Notre Dame, Rutgers, Maryland, Virginia Tech, UVA, BC, WVU, JMU, Syracuse, UCONN
Southeast: UF, LSU, Alabama, UGA, UL, Ole Miss, Miss. St., Vanderbilt, Tennessee, UK, Auburn,
South: South Carolina, Miami, FSU, North Carolina, Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest, NC State, USF, UCF, GT,

7 divisions, all regional. 2 division winners from each league. 14 team CFP
each team plays 10 games, 1 game vs each team in division.
these divisions take the power 4 teams plus the good teams from G5.
no conference championships

G5 has their own playoffs and championship.
Sanity at last…
 
Here is my revision to the current format that might work without changing divisions, and cuts one week off the playoff schedule to get the championship game earlier in Jan. G5 can create a similar format for 5 league title games and 6 play-in teams. If a G5 team is in the top 8 at large teams, they can opt out of their conf title game and accept CFP Playoff bid.

Improved CFP Playoff format


Conference championship weekend:
- P4 championship games
- Plus 4 more games of the top 8 at large (neutral site since champ games are).

8 winners advance to on campus quarterfinals (no byes, saves a calendar week and top four teams get the home playoff games):
- Top four host bottom four
- Hosts pick their opponent based on order. I.e. #1 can pick #7 if they like the matchup better.

This year example

Championship weekend:
- IU v OSU B10 Champ
- Ala v Georgia SEC Champ
- TTU v BYU B12 Champ
- Virginia v Duke ACC Champ

- Oregon v Vandy Rose Bowl (open venue)
- Ole Miss v Texas Sugar Bowl (open venue)
- Texas A&M v Miami (Houston bowl open venue)
- Oklahoma v Notre Dame (Orlando/Miami Bowl game open venue)

Example winners:

#1 Indiana
#2 Georgia
#3 TTU
#4 Oregon
#5 Ole Miss
#6 Miami
#7 Notre Dame
#8 Duke

- Indiana picks to host Duke
- Georgia picks to host Miami (Imagine if Kirby didn’t like ND matchup and doesn’t want Ole Miss rematch)
- TTU picks to host Ole Miss (No HC)
- Oregon defaults to hosting Notre Dame

Teams picking their opponent gives true advantage for fighting for higher seed, making conference championship weekend really matter.

OSU gets knocked out by not winning B10 championship, and missing out on the easiest path.

Duke still sadly makes it in, but future league tiebreakers will need to fix this.
 
Conference championship weekend:
- P4 championship games
- Plus 4 more games of the top 8 at large (neutral site since champ games are).
This isn't a shot at you because I've seen this idea several places, but how is this anything different than a 16-team playoff? You'd have people arguing who the top 8 at-large are, basically what we have now. Gruden said something similar and it just seemed like an expanded playoff.

Only way to fix it is to take committees out:

14 teams, top 2 get a bye.

4 SEC
4 B1G
2 ACC
2 Big XII
2 highest ranked G5 conference champs based on AP

Conferences determine rules for their reps. ND has to join a conference.

Unfortunately SEC will never do this because they want 6-8 in every year.
 
Didn’t see Gruden’s post. I’ll find that.

Yeah, it is really 16 teams, but blends in with the conference title weekend. What it does is get rid of the extra bye week. The playoffs take way too long in the current format.
 
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