Off-Topic Netflix shares crater 25% after company reports it lost subscribers for the first time in more than 10 years

My guess is that over the next 5 years Netflix will be acquired by another platform or studio. It’s the youngest and a stand alone, so it’s the odd man out when compared to Hulu w/Disney or Amazon w/a massive services company as the breadwinner. It’s not established as a producer like HBO, either.

Netflix knew this was coming, which is why they’ve invested so much in creating their own brands and licensing established IPs already. They needed a big number of projects to stand on their own and establish themselves as a studio apart from everyone else, because once streaming became the new normal all the legacy studios started keeping their own (or at least best) content. Netflix knew this and tried to adapt, but it’s almost impossible to pivot from zero native content to a full fledged studio. Even having big hits like Stranger Things and Bridgerton don’t do enough fast enough to cement the company long term. You need like 20 of those every year to keep up with Disney’s absurd backlog, and you need it in perpetuity. Meanwhile Amazon can literally light money on fire for 20 years and still be standing because Prime is a minuscule subset of their revenue (if it even makes them a dime at this point).

Netflix either needs to scale down dramatically and become rich and niche (in which case they’ll be bought) or merge/be acquired by someone else who has that catalogue already. The “get woke go broke” argument may be a supplementary cause of their decline, it’s certainly hastened the downfall of other media companies, but this outcome was already baked in the cake.

A similar thing will hit game studios who don’t have any native IPs, but make content for dozens of games for other studios. A global recession hits and suddenly they are cost prohibitive, their labor gets resourced to cheaper markets, and because they don’t actually make a product of their own they lose most of their clients. Netflix saw this coming and couldn’t course correct before they hit the iceberg.

First of all, excellent post. The most perceptive one in this thread so far.

Here’s something that reinforces your thesis:

Ackman Loses More Than $430 Million on 3-Month Netflix Bet


According to this Ackerman is bailing. Which makes me think he’s thinking along the same lines you are.
 
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First of all, excellent post. The most perceptive one in this thread so far.

Here’s something that reinforces your thesis:

Ackman Loses More Than $430 Million on 3-Month Netflix Bet


According to this Ackerman is bailing. Which makes me think he’s thinking along the same lines you are.
I wonder what he saw in the first place because this outcome was entirely predictable by people a lot smarter than me.
 
Not sure if it's mentioned, Neflix got out of the Russian market and dropped 700,000 Russian subscribers recently in protest of the war. Wonder if it's worth it to the share holders?
 
Of course it’s gambling, in a sense. The only difference is at the end, you still have something. Real gambling, as I see it casino type gambling, is usually an all or nothing deal.

But if I think if I understand what you’re getting at, investing, I think in your definition, is more conservative. Basically, one approach might be using an asset allocation and/or dollar cost averaging method to increase your net worth over time. Irrespective of the investment vehicle.

But there are a lot of ways to look at investing, that’s a **** of a rabbit hole to go down.

If I'm hitting while the dealer is showing 16, the I know it's sketch. If I buy Netflix at $250(?), well, it's subjective as to why. Gambling has clearly defined parameters; investing is based on context and foresight.

Idk. I suck at investing but that's what I can chalk it up to.
 
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My guess is that over the next 5 years Netflix will be acquired by another platform or studio. It’s the youngest and a stand alone, so it’s the odd man out when compared to Hulu w/Disney or Amazon w/a massive services company as the breadwinner. It’s not established as a producer like HBO, either.

Netflix knew this was coming, which is why they’ve invested so much in creating their own brands and licensing established IPs already. They needed a big number of projects to stand on their own and establish themselves as a studio apart from everyone else, because once streaming became the new normal all the legacy studios started keeping their own (or at least best) content. Netflix knew this and tried to adapt, but it’s almost impossible to pivot from zero native content to a full fledged studio. Even having big hits like Stranger Things and Bridgerton don’t do enough fast enough to cement the company long term. You need like 20 of those every year to keep up with Disney’s absurd backlog, and you need it in perpetuity. Meanwhile Amazon can literally light money on fire for 20 years and still be standing because Prime is a minuscule subset of their revenue (if it even makes them a dime at this point).

Netflix either needs to scale down dramatically and become rich and niche (in which case they’ll be bought) or merge/be acquired by someone else who has that catalogue already. The “get woke go broke” argument may be a supplementary cause of their decline, it’s certainly hastened the downfall of other media companies, but this outcome was already baked in the cake.

A similar thing will hit game studios who don’t have any native IPs, but make content for dozens of games for other studios. A global recession hits and suddenly they are cost prohibitive, their labor gets resourced to cheaper markets, and because they don’t actually make a product of their own they lose most of their clients. Netflix saw this coming and couldn’t course correct before they hit the iceberg.

I know it's 4/20 and all, but you didn't have to have such a high IQ while posting this.

Good lord, you could publish and sell this post.

Good stuff!
 
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I wonder what he saw in the first place because this outcome was entirely predictable by people a lot smarter than me.

That’s a really good question, one which I’d like to know as well. That answer is somewhere behind a paywall, I’d guess. But there is likely a CNBC interview or other financial media vehicle that discusses his rationale.
 
The board isn't doing a very good job of their fundamental responsibility to maximize the wealth of the shareholders.
At first glance I thought you said, “This board…” And I immediately thought to myself, “Yeah, CiS, do better!”
 
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Netflix is going to be bought out by one of the larger entities within a few years. I'm not a sustainable model to self-fund all of the series that Netflix produce, and the non-Netflix product that they do get will get increasingly sparse - or more Asylum like.

In the end it is going to be Disney+, HBO Max and whatever it permutates into, and Amazon Prime.

Three streamers. Just like there were three broadcast networks until 1986.
 
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