Need to Bring the Military Mindset to the Program

kkinder94

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It seems after every loss the board argues about why we are a substandard program: the o-line, inexperienced defensive backfield, erratic QB play, kicking, and poor coaching/player development. Those are certainly issues, but that doesn't really explain losing to inferior teams like FIU, Duke and GTech. Watching tonight, it is clear we don't have the fire. Duke played with more intensity and desire. We went through the motions. The kids hustled, but they didn't play with fire. Our players are entitled and mentally weak. They assume they should be great because of the glory days of yesteryear.

Having graduated from a service academy, I know the military makes you earn everything. When you enter boot camp, you ain't sh*t. You have to earn everything. Everyone with a chestful of ribbons and medals earned them. That is why those military members are respected. Newbies may have one or two ribbons. We need that in the program. I would start by having the players take the U off the helmets. They haven't earned the right to represent the U. Until they play with the U edge, they have nothing on their helmet. Nothing is given. Working to get the U on the helmet should drive the players. Just like you aren't called a Marine until you finish boot camp. You have to earn it.

The training in the military breaks you down physically AND mentally, especially elite units like the SEALs. We need the training to be so tough that the players think of quitting. If they survive, they know they can do anything. The confidence and attitude grow. They will look to dominate inferior opponents cause they know what they went through to make the field. Many will say today's kids aren't tough enough to take that kind of training. That is crap. The military still pushes today's kids to their limits. And, there have always been old school coaches like Bo Schembechler, Bear Bryant, and even Nick Saban that don't care about players feelings or social norms. They push you to the limit. I would also go further to incentivise players not to quit. The SEALs have the bell that recruits ring to quit. You could even have a wall with photos of those players who quit and leave the team. Players will fight not to be on that wall. And those who do quit; well, you weeded out the weak.

We need player accountability. I saw how Manny said that this week the players would self punish the team by doing five up and downs if someone jumped offsides. Really, five up and downs. You are happy with that kind of accountability. For offsides or other mental errors in practice, we need to be like the military. Make the person who messed up stand there as his teammates do flutter kicks till their stomachs cramp or sprint until exhaustion. This pushes kids to not make mistakes, and if they do, the team will ride them to perform better.

Granted, you should recruit players who are naturally competitive and driven, but the training should resemble the military. The military takes kids who aren't competitors or driven, and they force them to reach a new level. By putting the kids through ****, they come out confident, ****y and tough. They come out fighters. The silly gimmicks Diaz has done to date are crap. They are flash. The kids need a boot camp. They need to go through ****. Only then will they come out fighters.

It is that edge that made Miami great. If we don't have the players like the past, then we need to make them. The military does it. We can too.
 
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It seems after every loss the board argues about why we are a substandard program: the o-line, inexperienced defensive backfield, erratic QB play, kicking, and poor coaching/player development. Those are certainly issues, but that doesn't really explain losing to inferior teams like FIU, Duke and GTech. Watching tonight, it is clear we don't have the fire. Duke played with more intensity and desire. We went through the motions. The kids hustled, but they didn't play with fire. Our players are entitled and mentally weak. They assume they should be great because of the glory days of yesteryear.

Having graduated from a service academy, I know the military makes you earn everything. When you enter boot camp, you ain't sh*t. You have to earn everything. Everyone with a chestful of ribbons and medals earned them. That is why those military members are respected. Newbies may have one or two ribbons. We need that in the program. I would start by having the players take the U off the helmets. They haven't earned the right to represent the U. Until they play with the U edge, they have nothing on their helmet. Nothing is given. Working to get the U on the helmet should drive the players. Just like you aren't called a Marine until you finish boot camp. You have to earn it.

The training in the military breaks you down physically AND mentally, especially elite units like the SEALs. We need the training to be so tough that the players think of quitting. If they survive, they know they can do anything. The confidence and attitude grow. They will look to dominate inferior opponents cause they know what they went through to make the field. Many will say today's kids aren't tough enough to take that kind of training. That is crap. The military still pushes today's kids to their limits. And, there have always been old school coaches like Bo Schembechler, Bear Bryant, and even Nick Saban that don't care about players feelings or social norms. They push you to the limit. I would also go further to incentivise players not to quit. The SEALs have the bell that recruits ring to quit. You could even have a wall with photos of those players who quit and leave the team. Players will fight not to be on that wall. And those who do quit; well, you weeded out the weak.

We need player accountability. I saw how Manny said that this week the players would self punish the team by doing five up and downs if someone jumped offsides. Really, five up and downs. You are happy with that kind of accountability. For offsides or other mental errors in practice, we need to be like the military. Make the person who messed up stand there as his teammates do flutter kicks till their stomachs cramp or sprint until exhaustion. This pushes kids to not make mistakes, and if they do, the team will ride them to perform better.

Granted, you should recruit players who are naturally competitive and driven, but the training should resemble the military. The military takes kids who aren't competitors or driven, and they force them to reach a new level. By putting the kids through ****, they come out confident, ****y and tough. They come out fighters. The silly gimmicks Diaz has done to date are crap. They are flash. The kids need a boot camp. They need to go through ****. Only then will they come out fighters.

It is that edge that made Miami great. If we don't have the players like the past, then we need to make them. The military does it. We can too.

A military mindset... I think we should hire Ken Niumatalolo from Navy for HC! With Chaney, Knighton, Davis, Lingard, and Burns we should just run the option. ****, we even have the perfect QB- Martell- on the rooster.
 
Military mindset? Being ex Navy SWCC I'm all for it......however....if you are $aban you can get away with that, but with MOST of today's college kids and especially some of the diva's in So Fla HS Football right now they wouldn't have it. We start at least getting to the ACC Championship and stringing together some 10 win seasons then we can talk about it, but most of these kids would shudder at the thought of a "military mindset" in Coral Gables.
 
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It seems after every loss the board argues about why we are a substandard program: the o-line, inexperienced defensive backfield, erratic QB play, kicking, and poor coaching/player development. Those are certainly issues, but that doesn't really explain losing to inferior teams like FIU, Duke and GTech. Watching tonight, it is clear we don't have the fire. Duke played with more intensity and desire. We went through the motions. The kids hustled, but they didn't play with fire. Our players are entitled and mentally weak. They assume they should be great because of the glory days of yesteryear.

Having graduated from a service academy, I know the military makes you earn everything. When you enter boot camp, you ain't sh*t. You have to earn everything. Everyone with a chestful of ribbons and medals earned them. That is why those military members are respected. Newbies may have one or two ribbons. We need that in the program. I would start by having the players take the U off the helmets. They haven't earned the right to represent the U. Until they play with the U edge, they have nothing on their helmet. Nothing is given. Working to get the U on the helmet should drive the players. Just like you aren't called a Marine until you finish boot camp. You have to earn it.

The training in the military breaks you down physically AND mentally, especially elite units like the SEALs. We need the training to be so tough that the players think of quitting. If they survive, they know they can do anything. The confidence and attitude grow. They will look to dominate inferior opponents cause they know what they went through to make the field. Many will say today's kids aren't tough enough to take that kind of training. That is crap. The military still pushes today's kids to their limits. And, there have always been old school coaches like Bo Schembechler, Bear Bryant, and even Nick Saban that don't care about players feelings or social norms. They push you to the limit. I would also go further to incentivise players not to quit. The SEALs have the bell that recruits ring to quit. You could even have a wall with photos of those players who quit and leave the team. Players will fight not to be on that wall. And those who do quit; well, you weeded out the weak.

We need player accountability. I saw how Manny said that this week the players would self punish the team by doing five up and downs if someone jumped offsides. Really, five up and downs. You are happy with that kind of accountability. For offsides or other mental errors in practice, we need to be like the military. Make the person who messed up stand there as his teammates do flutter kicks till their stomachs cramp or sprint until exhaustion. This pushes kids to not make mistakes, and if they do, the team will ride them to perform better.

Granted, you should recruit players who are naturally competitive and driven, but the training should resemble the military. The military takes kids who aren't competitors or driven, and they force them to reach a new level. By putting the kids through ****, they come out confident, ****y and tough. They come out fighters. The silly gimmicks Diaz has done to date are crap. They are flash. The kids need a boot camp. They need to go through ****. Only then will they come out fighters.

It is that edge that made Miami great. If we don't have the players like the past, then we need to make them. The military does it. We can too.
Hire David Goggins as the new S&C Coach. He would break them all.
 
It seems after every loss the board argues about why we are a substandard program: the o-line, inexperienced defensive backfield, erratic QB play, kicking, and poor coaching/player development. Those are certainly issues, but that doesn't really explain losing to inferior teams like FIU, Duke and GTech. Watching tonight, it is clear we don't have the fire. Duke played with more intensity and desire. We went through the motions. The kids hustled, but they didn't play with fire. Our players are entitled and mentally weak. They assume they should be great because of the glory days of yesteryear.

Having graduated from a service academy, I know the military makes you earn everything. When you enter boot camp, you ain't sh*t. You have to earn everything. Everyone with a chestful of ribbons and medals earned them. That is why those military members are respected. Newbies may have one or two ribbons. We need that in the program. I would start by having the players take the U off the helmets. They haven't earned the right to represent the U. Until they play with the U edge, they have nothing on their helmet. Nothing is given. Working to get the U on the helmet should drive the players. Just like you aren't called a Marine until you finish boot camp. You have to earn it.

The training in the military breaks you down physically AND mentally, especially elite units like the SEALs. We need the training to be so tough that the players think of quitting. If they survive, they know they can do anything. The confidence and attitude grow. They will look to dominate inferior opponents cause they know what they went through to make the field. Many will say today's kids aren't tough enough to take that kind of training. That is crap. The military still pushes today's kids to their limits. And, there have always been old school coaches like Bo Schembechler, Bear Bryant, and even Nick Saban that don't care about players feelings or social norms. They push you to the limit. I would also go further to incentivise players not to quit. The SEALs have the bell that recruits ring to quit. You could even have a wall with photos of those players who quit and leave the team. Players will fight not to be on that wall. And those who do quit; well, you weeded out the weak.

We need player accountability. I saw how Manny said that this week the players would self punish the team by doing five up and downs if someone jumped offsides. Really, five up and downs. You are happy with that kind of accountability. For offsides or other mental errors in practice, we need to be like the military. Make the person who messed up stand there as his teammates do flutter kicks till their stomachs cramp or sprint until exhaustion. This pushes kids to not make mistakes, and if they do, the team will ride them to perform better.

Granted, you should recruit players who are naturally competitive and driven, but the training should resemble the military. The military takes kids who aren't competitors or driven, and they force them to reach a new level. By putting the kids through ****, they come out confident, ****y and tough. They come out fighters. The silly gimmicks Diaz has done to date are crap. They are flash. The kids need a boot camp. They need to go through ****. Only then will they come out fighters.

It is that edge that made Miami great. If we don't have the players like the past, then we need to make them. The military does it. We can too.
The SEALS don't keep pictures on the wall of the people that quit BUDs, but I get your point.
 
I didnt read all that, but after being in the Marines, I agree this team needs a massive influx of discipline and accountability that a military mindset provides.

It starts with the coaches tho. Diaz is all gimmick, no fundamentals.

I dont blame the players who have to play for and are lead by these morons.
 
Shiddd I watched the ole miss and Mississippi state game and they both played with intensity until the end.. what I'm saying is our doesn't fight every game like that with intensity setting the tone. No bonehead mistakes.
 
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It seems after every loss the board argues about why we are a substandard program: the o-line, inexperienced defensive backfield, erratic QB play, kicking, and poor coaching/player development. Those are certainly issues, but that doesn't really explain losing to inferior teams like FIU, Duke and GTech. Watching tonight, it is clear we don't have the fire. Duke played with more intensity and desire. We went through the motions. The kids hustled, but they didn't play with fire. Our players are entitled and mentally weak. They assume they should be great because of the glory days of yesteryear.

Having graduated from a service academy, I know the military makes you earn everything. When you enter boot camp, you ain't sh*t. You have to earn everything. Everyone with a chestful of ribbons and medals earned them. That is why those military members are respected. Newbies may have one or two ribbons. We need that in the program. I would start by having the players take the U off the helmets. They haven't earned the right to represent the U. Until they play with the U edge, they have nothing on their helmet. Nothing is given. Working to get the U on the helmet should drive the players. Just like you aren't called a Marine until you finish boot camp. You have to earn it.

The training in the military breaks you down physically AND mentally, especially elite units like the SEALs. We need the training to be so tough that the players think of quitting. If they survive, they know they can do anything. The confidence and attitude grow. They will look to dominate inferior opponents cause they know what they went through to make the field. Many will say today's kids aren't tough enough to take that kind of training. That is crap. The military still pushes today's kids to their limits. And, there have always been old school coaches like Bo Schembechler, Bear Bryant, and even Nick Saban that don't care about players feelings or social norms. They push you to the limit. I would also go further to incentivise players not to quit. The SEALs have the bell that recruits ring to quit. You could even have a wall with photos of those players who quit and leave the team. Players will fight not to be on that wall. And those who do quit; well, you weeded out the weak.

We need player accountability. I saw how Manny said that this week the players would self punish the team by doing five up and downs if someone jumped offsides. Really, five up and downs. You are happy with that kind of accountability. For offsides or other mental errors in practice, we need to be like the military. Make the person who messed up stand there as his teammates do flutter kicks till their stomachs cramp or sprint until exhaustion. This pushes kids to not make mistakes, and if they do, the team will ride them to perform better.

Granted, you should recruit players who are naturally competitive and driven, but the training should resemble the military. The military takes kids who aren't competitors or driven, and they force them to reach a new level. By putting the kids through ****, they come out confident, ****y and tough. They come out fighters. The silly gimmicks Diaz has done to date are crap. They are flash. The kids need a boot camp. They need to go through ****. Only then will they come out fighters.

It is that edge that made Miami great. If we don't have the players like the past, then we need to make them. The military does it. We can too.
As a Navy veteran....I approve this message!
 
It seems after every loss the board argues about why we are a substandard program: the o-line, inexperienced defensive backfield, erratic QB play, kicking, and poor coaching/player development. Those are certainly issues, but that doesn't really explain losing to inferior teams like FIU, Duke and GTech. Watching tonight, it is clear we don't have the fire. Duke played with more intensity and desire. We went through the motions. The kids hustled, but they didn't play with fire. Our players are entitled and mentally weak. They assume they should be great because of the glory days of yesteryear.

Having graduated from a service academy, I know the military makes you earn everything. When you enter boot camp, you ain't sh*t. You have to earn everything. Everyone with a chestful of ribbons and medals earned them. That is why those military members are respected. Newbies may have one or two ribbons. We need that in the program. I would start by having the players take the U off the helmets. They haven't earned the right to represent the U. Until they play with the U edge, they have nothing on their helmet. Nothing is given. Working to get the U on the helmet should drive the players. Just like you aren't called a Marine until you finish boot camp. You have to earn it.

The training in the military breaks you down physically AND mentally, especially elite units like the SEALs. We need the training to be so tough that the players think of quitting. If they survive, they know they can do anything. The confidence and attitude grow. They will look to dominate inferior opponents cause they know what they went through to make the field. Many will say today's kids aren't tough enough to take that kind of training. That is crap. The military still pushes today's kids to their limits. And, there have always been old school coaches like Bo Schembechler, Bear Bryant, and even Nick Saban that don't care about players feelings or social norms. They push you to the limit. I would also go further to incentivise players not to quit. The SEALs have the bell that recruits ring to quit. You could even have a wall with photos of those players who quit and leave the team. Players will fight not to be on that wall. And those who do quit; well, you weeded out the weak.

We need player accountability. I saw how Manny said that this week the players would self punish the team by doing five up and downs if someone jumped offsides. Really, five up and downs. You are happy with that kind of accountability. For offsides or other mental errors in practice, we need to be like the military. Make the person who messed up stand there as his teammates do flutter kicks till their stomachs cramp or sprint until exhaustion. This pushes kids to not make mistakes, and if they do, the team will ride them to perform better.

Granted, you should recruit players who are naturally competitive and driven, but the training should resemble the military. The military takes kids who aren't competitors or driven, and they force them to reach a new level. By putting the kids through ****, they come out confident, ****y and tough. They come out fighters. The silly gimmicks Diaz has done to date are crap. They are flash. The kids need a boot camp. They need to go through ****. Only then will they come out fighters.

It is that edge that made Miami great. If we don't have the players like the past, then we need to make them. The military does it. We can too.
@bubbie72
 
That mindset and subsequent training can only be delivered by the right personnel in the right setting. Coral Gables is probably not the right place for that and our current staff is not the right fit lol...…...
 
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