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Beef Stew

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WR
Lawrence Cager - Good

OL
Bar Milo - Good
Tyree St Louis - Good
Tyler Gauthier - JAG
Jahir Jones - JAG
Brendan Loftus - JAG
Hayden Mahoney - JAG

TE
Jerome Washington - Good

RB
Mark Walton - Good


CB
Michael Jackson - Good
Sheldrick Redwine - We'll see

S
Jaquan Johnson- Good
Robert Knowles - We'll see

DE
Scott Patchan- Good

DT
Gerald Willis- Good
Richard McIntosh - We'll see
Ken Norton - We'll see
Ryan Fines - JAG

LB
Charles Perry - We'll see
Jamie Gordonier - JAG
James King - JAG
 
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For the record, we had 7 FOUR STAR commits, and one FIVE STAR.

In comparison, USC had 21 four/five star commits. FSU had 17.

We're falling further and further behind. Bleak times.
 
Beef Stew said:
WR
Lawrence Cager - Good

OL
Bar Milo - Good
Tyree St Louis - Good
Tyler Gauthier - JAG
Jahir Jones - JAG
Brendan Loftus - JAG
Hayden Mahoney - JAG

TE
Jerome Washington - Good

RB
Mark Walton - Good


CB
Michael Jackson - Good
Sheldrick Redwine - We'll see

S
Jaquan Johnson- Good
Robert Knowles - We'll see

DE
Scott Patchan- Good

DT
Gerald Willis- Good
Richard McIntosh - We'll see
Ken Norton - We'll see
Ryan Fines - JAG

LB
Charles Perry - We'll see
Jamie Gordonier - JAG
James King - JAG
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I think three of your Jag's should be at least we'll see. Mahoney, Gauthier and Gordiner. they play with a mean streak and IMO are not Jag's. Mahoney was one of the top OL in PA by seasons end and you have The TE as good? He should be we'll see and McIntosh to me is good, again Just my opinion but the rest we agree on. But appreciate the breakdown and your thoughts.
 
Shouldn't they all be listed as ...we'll see?

Many thought that Jenkins, Linder, etc...would be jags! Just never know until they suit up.
 
Oline is one of the most difficult to project to college and then pro. MANY starters in the NFL as small school or lowly recruited players because it's more about how they refine their technique and mature physically over the next 4 years.

It's the other positions where you can't teach speed/athleticism that would worry me when you take guys who's tapes underwhelm you.
 
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Tampabaycane said:
Beef Stew said:
WR
Lawrence Cager - Good

OL
Bar Milo - Good
Tyree St Louis - Good
Tyler Gauthier - JAG
Jahir Jones - JAG
Brendan Loftus - JAG
Hayden Mahoney - JAG

TE
Jerome Washington - Good

RB
Mark Walton - Good


CB
Michael Jackson - Good
Sheldrick Redwine - We'll see

S
Jaquan Johnson- Good
Robert Knowles - We'll see

DE
Scott Patchan- Good

DT
Gerald Willis- Good
Richard McIntosh - We'll see
Ken Norton - We'll see
Ryan Fines - JAG

LB
Charles Perry - We'll see
Jamie Gordonier - JAG
James King - JAG
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My take: no one's "take" means **** at this point.
My guess is that there will be some very good players from the JAG catagory if we get better than JAG coaching
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PSU Cane said:
Oline is one of the most difficult to project to college and then pro. MANY starters in the NFL as small school or lowly recruited players because it's more about how they refine their technique and mature physically over the next 4 years.

It's the other positions where you can't teach speed/athleticism that would worry me when you take guys who's tapes underwhelm you.
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I agree with that, actually.
 
Beef Stew said:
WR
Lawrence Cager - Good

OL
Bar Milo - Good
Tyree St Louis - Good
Tyler Gauthier - JAG
Jahir Jones - JAG
Brendan Loftus - JAG
Hayden Mahoney - JAG

TE
Jerome Washington - Good

RB
Mark Walton - Good


CB
Michael Jackson - Good
Sheldrick Redwine - We'll see

S
Jaquan Johnson- Good
Robert Knowles - We'll see

DE
Scott Patchan- Good

DT
Gerald Willis- Good
Richard McIntosh - We'll see
Ken Norton - We'll see
Ryan Fines - JAG

LB
Charles Perry - We'll see
Jamie Gordonier - JAG
James King - JAG
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This is a #JAG15 type class but some kids are good and some are elite. you have to rate those guys

WR
Lawrence Cager - Good ( Route Running needs alot of work but Redzone Target)Army All American

OL
Bar Milo - Good
Tyree St Louis - Elite - our only UA All American this class
Tyler Gauthier - Good
Jahir Jones - Okay ( rotation player0
Brendan Loftus - JAG - The worst pick IMO
Hayden Mahoney - Okay ( rotation player)

TE
Jerome Washington - Good

RB
Mark Walton - Elite


CB
Michael Jackson - undecided - could be a Jag but i see potential
Sheldrick Redwine - Good

S
Jaquan Johnson- Elite (Army All American) (needs to work on speed)
Robert Knowles - Good

DE
Scott Patchan- Elite would have had a tremendous year if it wasn't for injury

DT
Gerald Willis- Elite
Richard McIntosh - Good
Ken Norton - Great OG - JAG DT
Ryan Fines - JAG

LB
Charles Perry - Good ( think this is our class steal)
Jamie Gordonier - Good
James King - JAG
 
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Fountain of Canes said:
Beef Stew said:
WR
Lawrence Cager - Good

OL
Bar Milo - Good
Tyree St Louis - Good
Tyler Gauthier - JAG
Jahir Jones - JAG
Brendan Loftus - JAG
Hayden Mahoney - JAG

TE
Jerome Washington - Good

RB
Mark Walton - Good


CB
Michael Jackson - Good
Sheldrick Redwine - We'll see

S
Jaquan Johnson- Good
Robert Knowles - We'll see

DE
Scott Patchan- Good

DT
Gerald Willis- Good
Richard McIntosh - We'll see
Ken Norton - We'll see
Ryan Fines - JAG

LB
Charles Perry - We'll see
Jamie Gordonier - JAG
James King - JAG
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This is a #JAG15 type class but some kids are good and some are elite. you have to rate those guys

WR
Lawrence Cager - Good ( Route Running needs alot of work but Redzone Target)Army All American

OL
Bar Milo - Good
Tyree St Louis - Elite - our only UA All American this class
Tyler Gauthier - Good
Jahir Jones - Okay ( rotation player0
Brendan Loftus - JAG - The worst pick IMO
Hayden Mahoney - Okay ( rotation player)

TE
Jerome Washington - Good

RB
Mark Walton - Elite


CB
Michael Jackson - undecided - could be a Jag but i see potential
Sheldrick Redwine - Good

S
Jaquan Johnson- Elite (Army All American) (needs to work on speed)
Robert Knowles - Good

DE
Scott Patchan- Elite would have had a tremendous year if it wasn't for injury

DT
Gerald Willis- Elite
Richard McIntosh - Good
Ken Norton - Great OG - JAG DT
Ryan Fines - JAG

LB
Charles Perry - Good ( think this is our class steal)
Jamie Gordonier - Good
James King - JAG
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I agree with your list. Also Brenden Loftus doesnt have the grades and wont get in.
 
I only disagree on McIntosh, Norton, King, and Perry.

I think all of them will be good, but King is a wait and see.
 
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dannymac___ said:
Fountain of Canes said:
Beef Stew said:
WR
Lawrence Cager - Good

OL
Bar Milo - Good
Tyree St Louis - Good
Tyler Gauthier - JAG
Jahir Jones - JAG
Brendan Loftus - JAG
Hayden Mahoney - JAG

TE
Jerome Washington - Good

RB
Mark Walton - Good


CB
Michael Jackson - Good
Sheldrick Redwine - We'll see

S
Jaquan Johnson- Good
Robert Knowles - We'll see

DE
Scott Patchan- Good

DT
Gerald Willis- Good
Richard McIntosh - We'll see
Ken Norton - We'll see
Ryan Fines - JAG

LB
Charles Perry - We'll see
Jamie Gordonier - JAG
James King - JAG
Click to expand...

This is a #JAG15 type class but some kids are good and some are elite. you have to rate those guys

WR
Lawrence Cager - Good ( Route Running needs alot of work but Redzone Target)Army All American

OL
Bar Milo - Good
Tyree St Louis - Elite - our only UA All American this class
Tyler Gauthier - Good
Jahir Jones - Okay ( rotation player0
Brendan Loftus - JAG - The worst pick IMO
Hayden Mahoney - Okay ( rotation player)

TE
Jerome Washington - Good

RB
Mark Walton - Elite


CB
Michael Jackson - undecided - could be a Jag but i see potential
Sheldrick Redwine - Good

S
Jaquan Johnson- Elite (Army All American) (needs to work on speed)
Robert Knowles - Good

DE
Scott Patchan- Elite would have had a tremendous year if it wasn't for injury

DT
Gerald Willis- Elite
Richard McIntosh - Good
Ken Norton - Great OG - JAG DT
Ryan Fines - JAG

LB
Charles Perry - Good ( think this is our class steal)
Jamie Gordonier - Good
James King - JAG
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I agree with your list. Also Brenden Loftus doesnt have the grades and wont get in.
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First I've heard of this, where did you hear it at?
 
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