forums

My question is........

Cane Dynasty

Cane Dynasty

Thunderdome Survivor
Joined
Feb 27, 2013
Messages
19,983
What is the rationale of not making football the #1 priority at UM? There seems to be real disdain, at the minimum an apathy toward the program.

Yes there have been some upgrades to facilities and what not. But the overall vibe is not one of full support.

What is the real end game?
 
Last edited:
Advertisement
Cane Dynasty said:
What is the rationale of not making football the #1 priority at UM?

What is the real end game?
Click to expand...

sportsilldrop.jpg
 
B/c when you are trying desperately to artificially inflate your academic status, its much easier to manage 15 kids who can't read at grade level than it is 85.
 
I can't believe that it's just a focus on academics. It's been well documented that enrollment at Miami increased in line with the success of the football team.

It's not an either or choice.
 
The thing that's so infuriating about the administration is that being good at football and being strong academically are NOT mutually exclusively goals. Harbaugh built up Stanford into a legit program and we've been looking up at Duke in the standings the past two seasons. It's possible to be good at football and make strides in academics. It's not like we're turning away an army of studs that can't qualify. Talent isn't the issue.

We just need to CARE about football. Putting money into the program doesn't mean academics will backslide.
 
Cane Dynasty said:
I can't believe that it's just a focus on academics. It's been well documented that enrollment at Miami increased in line with the success of the football team.

It's not an either or choice.
Click to expand...

This is what is so frustrating to me as a fan. I went to Miami for grad school solely because I was a fan of the football team. The scholarship helped, but **** it, I was going no matter what other schools accepted me. The academics sucked twenty years ago, but you get out of it what you want and unless you go to a top ten institution, the rest are more or less the same.

There is a correlation between football performance and increased applications. Miami's rise in academic rankings was definitely helped by the success of the football team driving increased applications and allowing the school to be more selective and accept a lower percentage of applicants, which I believe helps those academic rankings. The administration used that momentum and then turned their backs on football. When they start caring about and investing towards championship football, I'll start caring again. Until then, **** em all.
 
I think there's quite a bit of resistance to the current reality of college football: that's it's a big money, very crooked sport played by semi-professionals. The same way Shalala was resistant to the idea of refurbishing the OB because it would use public money, something she doesn't believe is right for a private school, the school has resisted in moving directions that they consider to be unconscionable, even if said ways might be necessary to compete.



I think they have elitist ideals and good intentions of doing things 'the right way', but unfortunately, this doesn't get us any closer to competing at a high level. Just look at some of the improvements they've really stressed, the concussion testing and whatnot. I'm actually very glad they've stressed player safety as much as they have, the kids deserve it, it's their blood and sweat that drives the athletic department forward, but the kids also deserve top notch coaching, an indoor practice facility, and other things the school has put on the back burner.
 
I feel like a large part of this is because we joined the ACC, resulting in guaranteed revenue-sharing money. I don't know enough about the University or Athletic Department's financials to know whether this is actually a factor, and I don't know if it was different when we were in the Big East, but it seems that the higher-ups are comfortable that the money (or at least enough of it ) is coming in whether we win or not. Sure, there are ticket sales (lol), merchandising, etc. but I'm under the impression that we get a hefty chunk by virtue of the revenue-sharing structure. And so, I wonder if the admin thinks 'why pump any substantial money into football when the ROI isn't much, if anything' in that case.

Anyone know if this is, or at least possibly could be, part of the problem?
 
CanesAreAble said:
The thing that's so infuriating about the administration is that being good at football and being strong academically are NOT mutually exclusively goals. Harbaugh built up Stanford into a legit program and we've been looking up at Duke in the standings the past two seasons. It's possible to be good at football and make strides in academics. It's not like we're turning away an army of studs that can't qualify. Talent isn't the issue.

We just need to CARE about football. Putting money into the program doesn't mean academics will backslide.
Click to expand...

Bc Harbaugh and Cutcliff can sell the academics to actual academic elites like Andrew Luck. Kids who go to Duke and Stanford are going their for the degree. They are typically the best athletes who also are brilliant.

Miami cannot compete for that type of kid bc a Miami degree is used toilet paper compared to Stanford and Duke. If an elite prep kid who values school is choosing based on academics, we have NOTHING on those schools.
 
Advertisement
There exists no more potent formula for complacency than combining academic bureaucracy with the Peter Principle. When mixed together, you get dividends of mediocrity for decades.
 
HurricaneU said:
There exists no more potent formula for complacency than combining academic bureaucracy with the Peter Principle. When mixed together, you get dividends of mediocrity for decades.
Click to expand...

THIS

Mediocrity shown below.
 
MiamiVice7 said:
I feel like a large part of this is because we joined the ACC, resulting in guaranteed revenue-sharing money. I don't know enough about the University or Athletic Department's financials to know whether this is actually a factor, and I don't know if it was different when we were in the Big East, but it seems that the higher-ups are comfortable that the money (or at least enough of it ) is coming in whether we win or not. Sure, there are ticket sales (lol), merchandising, etc. but I'm under the impression that we get a hefty chunk by virtue of the revenue-sharing structure. And so, I wonder if the admin thinks 'why pump any substantial money into football when the ROI isn't much, if anything' in that case.

Anyone know if this is, or at least possibly could be, part of the problem?
Click to expand...

The crappy part is if the ACC decides to drop Miami due to lack to attendance and other factors then what. Now you are Big Bad Miami in the AAC getting beat up on by UCF, ECU, and other schools and your education is tied with U of F. Its a dangerous game to play. But I do not think this happens now that Coach L has us legit in BBall
 
I think Miamis trying to disenfranchise its image with less privledges minorities in Miami. You know the stereotype about Miami fans.

Harvard would hate it just as much to see Boston southies working construction and beating people up on basketball courts in Harvard gear throwing up the H afterward
 
Back
Top