My Post Game recap

[mackjones]

Fsu game will be a blow out and Malik will have the best game of his career on 10/6...

Exactly. I'm figuring Miami should win by at least 24 points. That's why that home game will be a HIGH NOON game on either ESPN-2 or ESPNU. huh. But then again, I'm getting ahead of myself. dUh.

 

[Torocane]

You literally started a thread earlier saying how scared you were about "It's Toledo"

My only hope is you're sterile.

I detect strong troll behavior from this one.

 

[Brooklyndee]

I'm not a "new" Cane fan been a fan my entire life & my whole family are Canes fans as well.

I'm aware that Toledo is a weak G5 & we were supposed to win with ease & we did.

No one is acting like we won the ACC because we beat Toledo, but a win is a win & I don't know any Canes fan that isn't happy after we win regardless of who it is.

@Liberty City El you know were good bruh & I'm aware you know your football but you're really making me question what game you were watching. To say anything about rosier carrying us to a win is what I'm really lost on here. The only thing that carried us to a win is what yall like to criticize the most & that was the oline. The wr unit played a **** of a game from a blocking standpoint. Nephew had 4 pancake blocks. Being real all we did the entire game & effectively at times was hand the ball off or have malik run. He did his thing running the ball & if that is what yall want out of the qb than yup he did great. But let's be real when you talk about throwing the ball it was pretty sad. If jeff didnt make some of the catches he did than malik wouldve had about 100 yards passing for the game. He made 2 good throws throughout the game. The real question is have yall got to a point that you say good throws because you're used to his game or are they in reality simple throws you should expect out of any power 5 starting qb. Especially here... call a spade a spade & stop the bull****. We won the way we did because it was Toledo. No other reason. The defense has serious issues whether it's because of depth or mannys refusal to adjust & play to his talent. A qb on this team needs to be able to spread the ball around. If the opposing defense has the ability to stop our run game were in for lsu 2.0 all over again.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Yep
But I disagree that Toledo is a weak G5.

I think they aren't too far from ucf and boise

Ucf & boise have actual defenses & coordinators that can scheme the **** out of you. Toledo is a long way from that on defense.

 

[mackjones]

I agree with that, I wanna see Hightower, Pope, NJoku & Wiggins get more snaps with the 1st team offense.

They have to block down field better. That's probably what's holding them back.

 

[mackjones]

Something lost on some is that Toledo won the MAC and is a decent G5 team. Very well coached and expected to win the MAC again this year.

Should we blow out G5's? Absolutely! But Toledo is far from SSU and we put 49 on them and won by 25.

And it was an away game in boring Toledo, Ohio.

 

[Canezum5]

Why do you all feel the need to defend Rosier? The same Rosier that "went thru the motions", the same Rosier telling you to "SSSHHHH" when he scores against the vaunted Toledo defense, the same rosier that fixed his mouth to say " the fans don't matter" The same irresponsible dude who didn't study film until he had too.

Nobody owes that arrogant azzhat anything. He's a grown man and he's done nothing major for all of this defense he gets.

Beat that sorry *** FSU team where it took him 3 quarters to cross the 50-yard line?

I will never sing his praises no matter what he does.

He was dead to me after the Pitt game and nothing in his attitude or work ethic has changed

 

[mackjones]

I agree they do have that ****** attitude but their Corch deserves a lot of the blame for that. They needed someone to come in, be all about business and instill a professional work mentality. Instead they have a Corch preaching “fun” and preparing them for dance parties and ice cream socials. This is not going to end well and it will be glorious to watch. We should beat them decisively.

Should be at least a TWENTY-FOUR point Miami victory. And I'll be shocked, simply shocked, if Miami wins by 10, 8 or 7 points.

 

[The Owl]

Yep
But I disagree that Toledo is a weak G5.

I think they aren't too far from ucf and boise

Hahahaha "aren't too far from Boise" LOL ...You think UM would be double digit favorites at Boise? There is a noticeable gap between Toledo and Boise state.

 

[Hurracanes]

That defense at FSU doesn’t have a pulse, I’m worried what Diaz will do vs FSU who offense has been atrocious

I’m worried about Diaz too. Not buying our Defensive rankings just yet.

Would it really surprise anyone if FSU has the most success against us?

 

[Brooklyndee]

Nobody said he had a bad game, you're the assclown that keeps trying to be the badass on here. You talk **** to anybody who isn't ****riding Rosier.

@Loose Cannon not trying to argue here. I'm just curious though why you think the fact he just became the first QB in um history to throw for 2 tds & run for 3 proves sooo much about malik being special? Obviously you realize weve only EVER had 3 dual threat qbs we have played SOMEWHAT. That's george mira sr who was far more of a passing qb (as a QB should be)than a runner. Than you got ryan collins & kenny kelly. Both of which didnt exactly play enough to go around making all sorts of records... who else with all the offensive weapons weve had would you have as a qb who threw 2tds & ran for 3? Should Gino have done that or dorsey,maybe walsh,Erickson etc? Point for me would be you dont necessarily want ur starting qb running enough to have 3 tds when that's what running backs are for. You want ur qb to have passing tds that's what one of the best wr units in the country is for... or isnt it? I'm pretty sure most of our qbs throughout history have been capable enough to understand that. I wont even speak on the throws made to get him those 2 tds like that (fade I guess)that cager caught...

 

[Memnon]

@Liberty City El you know were good bruh & I'm aware you know your football but you're really making me question what game you were watching. To say anything about rosier carrying us to a win is what I'm really lost on here. The only thing that carried us to a win is what yall like to criticize the most & that was the oline. The wr unit played a **** of a game from a blocking standpoint. Nephew had 4 pancake blocks. Being real all we did the entire game & effectively at times was hand the ball off or have malik run. He did his thing running the ball & if that is what yall want out of the qb than yup he did great. But let's be real when you talk about throwing the ball it was pretty sad. If jeff didnt make some of the catches he did than malik wouldve had about 100 yards passing for the game. He made 2 good throws throughout the game. The real question is have yall got to a point that you say good throws because you're used to his game or are they in reality simple throws you should expect out of any power 5 starting qb. Especially here... call a spade a spade & stop the bull****. We won the way we did because it was Toledo. No other reason. The defense has serious issues whether it's because of depth or mannys refusal to adjust & play to his talent. A qb on this team needs to be able to spread the ball around. If the opposing defense has the ability to stop our run game were in for lsu 2.0 all over again.

I don't disagree with anything you said, I spent all offseason criticizing Rosier, **** go back & check my recap of the LSU game, I bashed the **** out of Malik.

I've never been. Malik apologist, ask anybody on here I criticize him heavily. Even in the OP I said he shouldn't throw the ball 30+ times a games, that's saying he's simply not good enough to do it.

Maybe saying he carried the team was a bit much, but I just didn't want to bash him after scoring 5TD's & I even acknowledged it was against Toledo & much lesser talented opponent.

I know he's not going to play well vs much better competition, I'm not lost at what I see. Don't get it confused big bro, I'm one of Rosier's harshest critics on here, I just didn't feel it was necessary to nitpick him after a win against a G5 team.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

@Liberty City El you know were good bruh & I'm aware you know your football but you're really making me question what game you were watching. To say anything about rosier carrying us to a win is what I'm really lost on here. The only thing that carried us to a win is what yall like to criticize the most & that was the oline. The wr unit played a **** of a game from a blocking standpoint. Nephew had 4 pancake blocks. Being real all we did the entire game & effectively at times was hand the ball off or have malik run. He did his thing running the ball & if that is what yall want out of the qb than yup he did great. But let's be real when you talk about throwing the ball it was pretty sad. If jeff didnt make some of the catches he did than malik wouldve had about 100 yards passing for the game. He made 2 good throws throughout the game. The real question is have yall got to a point that you say good throws because you're used to his game or are they in reality simple throws you should expect out of any power 5 starting qb. Especially here... call a spade a spade & stop the bull****. We won the way we did because it was Toledo. No other reason. The defense has serious issues whether it's because of depth or mannys refusal to adjust & play to his talent. A qb on this team needs to be able to spread the ball around. If the opposing defense has the ability to stop our run game were in for lsu 2.0 all over again.

What game were you watching? The only throw I remember JT4 having to adjust to was the 2nd bomb...the first bomb for a TD was beautifully thrown.

And like Richt's alluded to over & over again with Rosier, how many bad plays did He get us out of?...how many good plays did He turn into great ones?

Lot more to it than how good you can spin a football.

 

[Brooklyndee]

What game were you watching? The only throw I remember JT4 having to adjust to was the 2nd bomb...the first bomb for a TD was beautifully thrown.

And like Richt's alluded to over & over again with Rosier, how many bad plays did He get us out of?...how many good plays did He turn into great ones?

Lot more to it than how good you can spin a football.

I didnt say every catch jeff had was a horrible throw. I'm not debating **** on here with any of yall. If you feel we had ANY great plays yesterday I'll respect that & simply leave it at we disagree. U go off of what richt is saying to the media. I'll go off of what I know. Anyone that doesn't realize the running game was the only reason we won like that yesterday I'm just not sure what they're seeing.

 

[Cknucks305]

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Offense:
Malik Rosier - 13/23 205yds 2TD's 8att 80yds 3TD's rushing
Deejay Dallas - 17att 110yds 1TD
Travis Homer - 16att 62yds
Jeff Thomas - 5rec 105yds 1TD 1att 19yds rushing
Lawrence Cager - 3rec 67yds 1TD
Darrell Langham - 2rec 23yds
Choc Gray - 3att 6yds 1TD

Offense gained 474yds total on 73 plays 6.6ypp with 268yds rushing. 7/15 on 3rd down.

Offense stepped up & balled out today, after receiving heavy criticism they absolutely came to play. They dominated time of possession 35:29 to Toledo's 24:31.

Malik Rosier had one of his best games vs Toldeo last year & today was no different. He really played well & carried this team to victory. He made some really nice throws, especially in the 3rd quarter that comeback route to Cager on 3rd & 9 was very nice precise ball.

He also killed it running the ball, I believe that should be a staple of this offense going forward. Malik shouldn't be asked to throw it 30+ times a game, he should get 25 throws & 10-15 runs every game, that opens up the run game for Deejay & pulls those Safety's back in the passing game.

Deejay is a great dynamic weapon & is emerging as a very consistent runner. Both he & Homer played well today. Deejay needs more touches as the season progresses, whether in the run game or in the passing game, he's electric with the ball in his hands & has gamebreaking homerun ability.

The OL finally woke up & provided great Run blocking at the point of attack, they opened up some really nice lanes for Deejay & Homer.

JT4! Jeff Thomas is a BEAST! He's our best offensive weapon, I love the reverse he ran today & the fact he's now been put in position as our #1 WR & he's filled that role perfectly. The kid's got lighting quick speed & can't be covered by anyone one on one, once he gets those turbo boosters sparked up on his cleats he's gone! He's gonna score in every game we play this season, as long as we keep feeding him he should have an All-ACC season. He's our version of Tyrek Hill.

Defense:
- Jaquan Johnson 7tcks total
- Mike Smith 6tcks 1TFL
- Gerald Willis 5tcks 3TFL's
- Sheldrick Redwine 5tcks 1sack & 1TFL
- Michael Pinckney 5tcks 2TFL's
- Shaquille Quarterman 5tcks .05TFL's
- Scott Patchan 3tcks 1sack & 1TFL
- Trajan Bandy 3tcks 1TFL & 1INT
- Joe Jackson 3tcks 1.5TFL
- Romeo Finley 3tcks 1PD

Defense gave up 334yds total 113yds rushing & 221yds passing. With 13TFL's, 4sacks & 1INT.

Defense played well in the 1st half holding Toledo to just 64yds rushing, but as soon as Jaquan went down they completely fell apart.

The very first play Bobby Knowles came in the game Toledo immediately recognized it & threw right at him. They were salivating as soon as they seen #20 out there. IDGAF what the issue is, NO MORE KNOWLES! He shouldn't see the field for anything more than Special Teams this year, not another significant snap the rest of the season.

I hope Quan is okay & healthy, but if he's not Gurvan Hall, Amari Carter, Rome Finley, Derrick Smith or **** even Gilbert Frierson need to play ahead of Knowles. Under no circumstances whatsoever should Knowles be in the field unless it's the last possession of the game vs FIU.

Liked what I saw from G Willis, Rome Finely made some plays in coverage early & Pinckney played better this week. Bandy made a great pick as well, he's really a great corner for us.

Overall this Defense gave up too many big plays in the 2nd half & those Zone Blitzes are going to kill us in ACC play, every Blitz we ran they audible & ran the play to the exact spot where the Blitz was coming from. Better teams will pick us apart with that. Diaz needs to be reevaluated at the end of the season, his Defense is just too inconsistent.

I predicted that we would win 44-17 & we did what were we supposed to do against a G5 team with far lesser talent than us. With FIU coming up that'll be another blow out too, but the real test starts with ACC play. UNC & FSU are literally the 2 WORST teams in the ACC, rivalry games or not we should steamroll both of them @ Home.

That'll tell us where this team really is, we can't have close games with those teams we need to put them away in the 1st half & keep our foot on their necks in the 2nd. Neither one of them have the talent we do, we can turn this season around after the LSU debacle with 2 convincing victories vs UNC & FSU.

I'm hopeful we'll get it done. Great Win for the Canes!

Totally agree two of their tds were a direct result of Knowles the other redwine took a horrible angle.

 

[CoachDannyMiaz]

And before people jump on Rosier and diminish tha amazing catch by Thomas, Thomas was covered and Malik, I believe, was trying to throw it away, or at least to a spot on the field that only JT could get to.

I’m not saying whether it was accidental or on purpose, but Rosier threw him open on that play.

 

[Loose Cannon]

@Loose Cannon not trying to argue here. I'm just curious though why you think the fact he just became the first QB in um history to throw for 2 tds & run for 3 proves sooo much about malik being special? Obviously you realize weve only EVER had 3 dual threat qbs we have played SOMEWHAT. That's george mira sr who was far more of a passing qb (as a QB should be)than a runner. Than you got ryan collins & kenny kelly. Both of which didnt exactly play enough to go around making all sorts of records... who else with all the offensive weapons weve had would you have as a qb who threw 2tds & ran for 3? Should Gino have done that or dorsey,maybe walsh,Erickson etc? Point for me would be you dont necessarily want ur starting qb running enough to have 3 tds when that's what running backs are for. You want ur qb to have passing tds that's what one of the best wr units in the country is for... or isnt it? I'm pretty sure most of our qbs throughout history have been capable enough to understand that. I wont even speak on the throws made to get him those 2 tds like that (fade I guess)that cager caught...

I think Rosier gets unfairly criticized for his demeanor and lack of effort when all he does is whatever he can to help us win.

If he needs to stand in the pocket for a split second longer to allow Thomas to get open even if it means taking a big hit, he does. If he needs to be a lead blocker to seal off a linebacker on an end around, he does. If he needs to lower his shoulder and drive two defenders into the end zone, he does.

He’s never going to be a good enough passer to help us win games by just standing in the pocket and picking defenses apart. He’s simply not talented enough to do so, but what he lacks in talent he makes up for with grit and balls.

He’s never going to be an NFL player, but what he is going to do is leave Miami having accomplished things that very few players, if any, have been able to do. He’s a gamer who’s almost certainly playing his last season of organized sports, and he’s doing everything within his ability to go out with his only lasting legacy as having left the program in a better place than he found it.

He’s playing like a person with little regard for his own well-being. He couldn’t care less if he gets injured on the next play as long as he was moving the pile forward.

I have a very hard time being overly critical of a person based solely on a lack of physical ability. I think it’s his competitiveness and willingness to sacrifice everything that has kept him a step ahead of the superior talent behind him. I only wish his talent level matched his guts, and my only hope is that the younger guys take notice and turn it up a notch when their turn comes.

 

[Corch Enamelstain]

I think Rosier gets unfairly criticized for his demeanor and lack of effort when all he does is whatever he can to help us win.

If he needs to stand in the pocket for a split second longer to allow Thomas to get open even if it means taking a big hit, he does. If he needs to be a lead blocker to seal off a linebacker on an end around, he does. If he needs to lower his shoulder and drive two defenders into the end zone, he does.

He’s never going to be a good enough passer to help us win games by just standing in the pocket and picking defenses apart. He’s simply not talented enough to do so, but what he lacks in talent he makes up for with grit and balls.

He’s never going to be an NFL player, but what he is going to do is leave Miami having accomplished things that very few players, if any, have been able to do. He’s a gamer who’s almost certainly playing his last season of organized sports, and he’s doing everything within his ability to go out with his only lasting legacy as having left the program in a better place than he found it.

He’s playing like a person with little regard for his own well-being. He couldn’t care less if he gets injured on the next play as long as he was moving the pile forward.

I have a very hard time being overly critical of a person based solely on a lack of physical ability. I think it’s his competitiveness and willingness to sacrifice everything that has kept him a step ahead of the superior talent behind him. I only wish his talent level matched his guts, and my only hope is that the younger guys take notice and turn it up a notch when their turn comes.

I agree. Rosier, when on the field, isn't afraid to put his body on the line to help his team, if anything, he held the ball a bit too much on a couple read options. I think fans misinterpret his demeanor on the sideline as being indifferent and nonchalant, when in reality, I think its just his personality. At any rate, the thing we need to worry about Rosier is his poor mechanics and football IQ, rather than nit picking every time he picks his nose on the sideline.

 

[Dghustla]

lol. tell that to bama and osu

This is what you don’t get. If you ever observed Nick Saban that guy takes no one likely. He owns Ever aspect of the program.

 

[HarpDawg]

Does Mark Pope get on the field? I’ve seen a lot of Hightower and a decent amount of Ezzard and Wiggins. Pope was thought as the best coming in. Curious as to why we haven’t seen much of him.

Hightower was here all spring, pope arrived very late