Motion

[simplycanes]

Why we don't use plays that get the ball out of our quarterback's iffy hands and into those of the playmakers more quickly is beyond me.

Honestly, look at what some of the concepts Virginia Tech uses do for Josh Jackson who I don't think is an elite quarterback by any means.

 

[skyman]

Many of us have asked this countless times. As a big fan of the NFL and their schemes, you even see it used there ALL the time now.

Just made a separate post about how guys like McVay out in LA use the jet sweep from various formations. As in not some one off thing as I think we’ve run, but something more consistent with a purpose (to keep specific defenders honest) I’m guessing the answer we’d get is something around ‘if guys did their jobs, we’d be fine.’

The NFL has embraced the spread concepts and ran with it, while our admin is basically stuck in wishbone thinking. When they say prostyle it doesnt even match what is goin on in nfl now. The whole NFLU thing has ran its course and been a net negative for the university of last 15 years. We used to be the innovative offense, now stuck in mud.

If you watch NFL, and watch the top offenses, Pats, Eagles, KC, Rams, etc. They are all doing college spread stuff and adding wrinkles, taking it to another level. Fun to see and disheartening that we can be of same mindset with skill guys we have, JT4, Deejay forcing him to gain 25 lb and be some 220 back. Dude could be versatile as **** in those types of schemes, etc

 

[skyman]

I was thinking similarly watching the Rams game last night. They have a lot of speed, a nice QB, and an elite talent at RB. They may have a "Good" Oline, I'm not good enough to evaluate NFL teams down to that granular detail, but I don't think their OLine is "Special" or "Elite" level. They spread the ball around, don't have an AJ Green, Antonio Brown, Calvin Johnson, or Randy Moss on that roster. Shoot, they made Jared freeking Cook look like a Hall of Famer last night. Look how many carries their WR's had? I think it was at least 8-10 rushing attempts from their WR's.

I've been one who all along has said that our offense is "fine", there are open WR's to throw to if we just had a competent QB who could place the ball accurately and, ON TIME. This is still true.

That being said, we can do better. I hate this "motion" conversation because it makes it seem as though just putting someone in motion on every play will solve all our ills. BUT, we can do much, much better. There is no reason CJR and CMR and Thomas Brown and Dugans shouldn't be spending serious time in the offseason and even during the season visiting the Sean McVay's, Jay Gruden's, Josh McDaniel's, Doug Pederson's and Andy Reid's of the world, watching NFL football games, and stealing their plays and concepts, at a minimum. That shovel pass, sweep motion TD from Todd Gurley last night (I think it was the first TD of the game) was a thing of beauty. The play almost completely takes the OLine out of the equation and relies on the positioning and blocking of the WR's, which is something we actually excel at.

Unless things change, they are going to stay the same.

What is funny is those guys come to college teams and "steal" their concepts, lol. Crazy how we think we have to go to nfl for that type of stuff. Read anything about pats offense over years and they talk about visiting numerous colleges, or andy reid and how he is always looking in college ranks. We are just behind the ball period

 

[g8rh8rMD]

Two reason (likely) and here is why:

1) The #1 QB is clearly not the bookworm that is expected; and
2) When it comes to pre-snap reads, motion confuses the defense but also confuses the QBs reads.

Let's see it dialed up later on in life.

It seems CMR philosophy is, run a few plays very well, as opposed ot having a bunch of plays, motions, shifts etc., semi alright.

Those are the two main offensive philosophies.

You are correct in all of what you say.

Which is extremely troublesome when a coach is in his third season, has recruited three high level prospects at the QB position and is working with a 5th year senior with, what, 16 starts under his belt? There are guys in the NFL with starting jobs who had less career starts in college.

It's past time that CMR should have at least a mid-level ACC offense, especially with all of the skilled talent at his disposal. There are no excuses left.

Either you accept that there is a problem and something significant needs to change, or you are part of the problem.

 

[Canezum5]

funny, ive seen fsu use all types of motion, bunch formations, crazy plays. 3 points at home opener. lol

i watched mike mularkey use more motion i and formation changes than any NFL team last season. qb still threw more ints than tds and offense was deplorable.

none of that shid matters when we got guys open and playmaking on the plays we run.

we will see much more motion and play variation when nkosi gets warmed up.

 

[Arehel]

Richt has been able to line up and beat people with talent. He did it at UGA and on most Saturdays he can do it at UM. No creativity.

Agreed. When he was an OC at FSU, he had two Heisman QBs and 6 relatively successful QBs in the NFL.
Begs the question players or coach?

Watched the '98 game between FSU and UF, nothing electrifying there, he also used motion, limited amounts, more under center, lots of play action and outs.

 

[DemCanesByke]

Two reason (likely) and here is why:

1) The #1 QB is clearly not the bookworm that is expected; and
2) When it comes to pre-snap reads, motion confuses the defense but also confuses the QBs reads.

Let's see it dialed up later on in life.

It seems CMR philosophy is, run a few plays very well, as opposed ot having a bunch of plays, motions, shifts etc., semi alright.

Those are the two main offensive philosophies.

The first year we had Kaaya and everyone here was saying that he was waiting on the tougher part of the schedule to open up the playbook. I have news for you this is the playbook.

 

[moshated305]

The first year we had Kaaya and everyone here was saying that he was waiting on the tougher part of the schedule to open up the playbook. I have new for you this is the playbook.

Exactly, it's hilarious that in year 3 and we are still hoping he opens up the playbook. I think that playbook is more like a play sheet or two and we've already seen everything Richt wants to run.

 

[Arehel]

The first year we had Kaaya and everyone here was saying that he was waiting on the tougher part of the schedule to open up the playbook. I have news for you this is the playbook.

While I pretty much agree with you, it's not entirely true.
He did add the RPO with a TB swing/QB draw. Outside of that, not too sure. Might have been an addition based on force.

 

[JOE'CANE]

lol please

We do have a really good staff. There are only 5-10 in the country that maybe better. They do have things they have to fix though.

 

[L A M P]

You post jjjuuuusssttt enough to make me question my sobriety.

 

[DemCanesByke]

We do have a really good staff. There are only 5-10 in the country that maybe better. They do have things they have to fix though.

I can't say that after how unprepared the team looked in all facets of the game against LSU.