Monday Media: Mario, Gattis and Steele

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I don’t think he should be saying publicly that the wide receiver room is a challenge. Instead, I think he needs to be accountable and responsible and say that he and the rest of the offensive staff have to be better with schemes and game plans and the sort so that they are put in a better position to succeed.

this. gattis rubbed me the wrong way in that presser. compare his responses with mario and steele's. those two took responsibility and foregrounded their responsibility to coach the kids up. with gattis it was the opposite.

he's not wrong that the wr room has big problems, but for the offensive to be successful this year he's going to have to be nimble and flexible in scheming. he also needs to keep that wr room together and bought in or **** could go south quick on offense.

also don't think all hope is lost on offense. we have good qbs/rbs/tes/ol. think we need to play to our strengths: punish teams running the ball, play 2/3 te sets, and pass the ball to rooster/b. Smith out of the backfield as the wide receivers get better and more comfortable (or not)

 

[miamicanephins]

Certainly no one is above criticism, but every single bit of snark in that article was from little beta bïtches who have never been in the arena.

There were also some salvos directed at Mario by tthe beta boys

 

[Canedude08]

its his position room. its on him to develop them.

There's only so much you can develop in 8 months. Let's cut the BS, even the best coaches on planet earth can't fix guys that quickly, especially knowing that they can spend 20 hours per week with them, MAXIMUM. If it was only about development, Mario wouldn't have been so desperate to get receivers in the portal. He knew that these guys weren't good, he saw the film. Then again, Gattis has become the scapegoat of the week for our dumbass fanbase.

You really think Lance Leggett could have been "Developed"? Sometimes, a guy just isn't going to make it. Sometimes, a guy lacks the ability or mental drive to get better, that's when it is time to move on. Is that the case with all the receivers on the roster? Who knows, but I don't find it an accident that Rambo and Harley easily lapped these guys last year, and it wasn't like they were guys that are going to be in the Ring of Honor. They were solid collegiate receivers and they looked like All-Americans compared to a lot of these guys...

 

[hoops156]

There's only so much you can develop in 8 months. Let's cut the BS, even the best coaches on planet earth can't fix guys that quickly, especially knowing that they can spend 20 hours per week with them, MAXIMUM. If it was only about development, Mario wouldn't have been so desperate to get receivers in the portal. He knew that these guys weren't good, he saw the film. Then again, Gattis has become the scapegoat of the week for our dumbass fanbase.

You really think Lance Leggett could have been "Developed"? Sometimes, a guy just isn't going to make it. Sometimes, a guy lacks the ability or mental drive to get better, that's when it is time to move on. Is that the case with all the receivers on the roster? Who knows, but I don't find it an accident that Rambo and Harley easily lapped these guys last year, and it wasn't like they were guys that are going to be in the Ring of Honor. They were solid collegiate receivers and they looked like All-Americans compared to a lot of these guys...

these guys were basically true freshman last year while Harley was a sixth year senior and Rambo was a fourth year junior I believe. thats a huge difference nd you know it. Melo, George, smith all showed promise last year in lashlees scheme. they look worse than they did as true freshman last year. again, these guys aren't even performing the fundamentals. they're running wrong routes and aren't even blocking on plays. that falls on the WR coach. Michigan had similar issues w their WRs too. he still had 8 months with the group too. 8 months. its not like he spent zero time at all with them. I find it hard to believe that none of those guys can develop. im not even saying that the group is good, but it certainly isnt lacking talent.

 

[SWFLHurricane]

They should be.

There's only so much you can develop in 8 months. Let's cut the BS, even the best coaches on planet earth can't fix guys that quickly, especially knowing that they can spend 20 hours per week with them, MAXIMUM. If it was only about development, Mario wouldn't have been so desperate to get receivers in the portal. He knew that these guys weren't good, he saw the film. Then again, Gattis has become the scapegoat of the week for our dumbass fanbase.

You really think Lance Leggett could have been "Developed"? Sometimes, a guy just isn't going to make it. Sometimes, a guy lacks the ability or mental drive to get better, that's when it is time to move on. Is that the case with all the receivers on the roster? Who knows, but I don't find it an accident that Rambo and Harley easily lapped these guys last year, and it wasn't like they were guys that are going to be in the Ring of Honor. They were solid collegiate receivers and they looked like All-Americans compared to a lot of these guys...

I knew Lance...he easily could have been developed. After the Hit on GreenTree from Willie Williams (Broke his facemask...and Jaw) he never was the same.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Who coaches them? They’ve all regressed , so has the qb. The wr’s were better blockers last year.

Fair point. With that said, it is sometimes a two way street.

Who is the Mirabal of WR coaches??

I will say, looking how he has helped improve atrocious OL play has been impressive. If they keep this up, he better be a leading nominee for OL CoY honors.

 

[Canedude08]

Gattis is not throwing the WRs under the bus, he is speaking the truth about the issues at WR.

What's funny is that this same fanbase had a problem with Diaz being overly diplomatic about EVERYTHING, instead of calling people out. It's almost like we have a lot of morons running around, whining for the sake of whining. If Miami's offense struggles throughout the season, then I expect Mario to do something about it, because he's a competent program manager that demands excellence from both himself and everyone else. This isn't Al Golden refusing to fire his best friend.

That said, I'm not throwing a hissy fit in WEEK THREE of a new system install, knowing full well that a lot of these players weren't all that great in the previous system either.

 

[Canedude08]

these guys were basically true freshman last year while Harley was a sixth year senior and Rambo was a fourth year junior I believe. thats a huge difference nd you know it. Melo, George, smith all showed promise last year in lashlees scheme. they look worse than they did as true freshman last year. again, these guys aren't even performing the fundamentals. they're running wrong routes and aren't even blocking on plays. that falls on the WR coach. Michigan had similar issues w their WRs too. he still had 8 months with the group too. 8 months. its not like he spent zero time at all with them. I find it hard to believe that none of those guys can develop. im not even saying that the group is good, but it certainly isnt lacking talent.

Promise, they caught some balls, and even then weren't factors for large stretches of the season. There's a reason why when push came to shove, none of them were expected to do anything. Again, Mario saw the film before he took the job, there's a reason why Miami tried to make a push for Addison and other portal guys, that was Mario's major misstep, not bringing in MULTIPLE portal guys , or convincing Rambo to stay. There's a reason why no matter who saw practice, they all said the same thing: This WR room is mediocre at best, X is really the only guy that you can count on. Years of mediocre recruiting/evals led to this.

 

[hoops156]

Promise, they caught some balls, and even then weren't factors for large stretches of the season. There's a reason why when push came to shove, none of them were expected to do anything. Again, Mario saw the film before he took the job, there's a reason why Miami tried to make a push for Addison and other portal guys, that was Mario's major misstep, not bringing in MULTIPLE portal guys , or convincing Rambo to stay. There's a reason why no matter who saw practice, they all said the same thing: This WR room is mediocre at best, X is really the only guy that you can count on. Years of mediocre recruiting/evals led to this.

w rambo, he kinda maxed out. he put together a historic year and he wasn't getting more athletic. his limitations were that. ok so say we missed on the WR recruiting, that means that Melo, George, Redding all talented kids coming out are just somehow bad. like all of them? not even one transcends that? come on. you normally land one decent to good WR when youre recruiting 4 star kids. even our ****** coaches hit on 1 (ar, coley, PD, TB, Harley, etc.). if the entire room is struggling, that fault lies w their position coach imo.

 

[Canedude08]

That's a concern and it reminds me of the text message he sent to the Michigan players after he left to come here.

In a text to some Michigan players, Josh Gattis said, “Unfortunately the past few weeks has told a different story to me about the very little appreciation I have here from administration. In life I would never advise anyone to be where they are not wanted…”

Bashing a former employer isn't ever a good look. It's not professional. And in a world where coaches preach to players about owning up to your mistakes and doing your job and not making excuses, I wasn't a fan of that alleged text.

If an employer is treating you like trash, then call it out once you leave(GTFO ASAP). They would do the same about you if they were so inclined.

Sorry, but I'm not for this bootlicking nonsense. The ONLY reason employers don't want employees speaking on things once they leave is that it's a lot easier to cover crap up if it is never spoken about. It's also the same reason why employers don't want people to discuss salaries, they know full well they are ******** people over, they don't want anyone to find out. It's known that Gattis wasn't treated well at Michigan, for whatever reason. Gattis was explaining why he left Michigan and he called a spade a spade. Amazing how when some people speak truth, it's unprofessional, but other guys call out BS, they are straight shooters, they are brutally honest. Don't ask me a question if you don't want a truthful answer. I'm quite sure Coach Gattis subscribes to that philosophy as well.

 

[hoops156]

If an employer is treating you like trash, then call it out once you leave(GTFO ASAP). They would do the same about you if they were so inclined.

Sorry, but I'm not for this bootlicking nonsense. The ONLY reason employers don't want employees speaking on things once they leave is that it's a lot easier to cover crap up if it is never spoken about. It's also the same reason why employers don't want people to discuss salaries, they know full well they are ******** people over, they don't want anyone to find out. It's known that Gattis wasn't treated well at Michigan, for whatever reason. Gattis was explaining why he left Michigan and he called a spade a spade. Amazing how when some people speak truth, it's unprofessional, but other guys call out BS, they are straight shooters, they are brutally honest. Don't ask me a question if you don't want a truthful answer. I'm quite sure Coach Gattis subscribes to that philosophy as well.

gattis wasn't treated well there bc he wasn't good there lol. he was bad his first two seasons. Harbaugh overhauled the staff and got him a CO-OC along w being more involved. the results improved overnight. its a dude thinking his **** dont stink. even Michigan writers dont think he even deserved credit for the offensive improvement. when a coach forces a Co-Oc on you, youre not doing your job well. its diff if he was hired as a CO-Oc. he was essentially stripped of some responsibilities there

 

[Canedude08]

w rambo, he kinda maxed out. he put together a historic year and he wasn't getting more athletic. his limitations were that. ok so say we missed on the WR recruiting, that means that Melo, George, Redding all talented kids coming out are just somehow bad. like all of them? not even one transcends that? come on. you normally land one decent to good WR when youre recruiting 4 star kids. even our ****** coaches hit on 1 (ar, coley, PD, TB, Harley, etc.). if the entire room is struggling, that fault lies w their position coach imo.

Evals go beyond star ratings. That's something our fanbase doesn't recognize. Diaz and his staff were HORRIFIC evaluators. Let's be honest, star rankings only cover things like athletic ability and size. A lot of these recruiting gurus don't know a **** thing about what makes for a successful player, they aren't doing the kind of deep dives on guys that a good evaluator does. It could be that the room culture is crap and you have to recruit your way out of it. It could be that a lot of these guys are horrific fits for the system and Gattis doesn't want to move away from the system for guys that he's going to shuffle through in a year anyway.

I'm not going to blame a guy that has been around these guys at most for a grand total of 640 hours, MAXIMUM over the last 8 months, and that's if he spent every single available practice hour with them, which we know isn't the case, because there are a ton of other things going on. It's a bit insane to go after this guy after three weeks, considering that WE KNEW COMING IN that this WR room was mediocre. It's almost like people don't want to believe their own eyes.

 

[hoops156]

Evals go beyond star ratings. That's something our fanbase doesn't recognize. Diaz and his staff were HORRIFIC evaluators. Let's be honest, star rankings only cover things like athletic ability and size. A lot of these recruiting gurus don't know a **** thing about what makes for a successful player, they aren't doing the kind of deep dives on guys that a good evaluator does. It could be that the room culture is crap and you have to recruit your way out of it. It could be that a lot of these guys are horrific fits for the system and Gattis doesn't want to move away from the system for guys that he's going to shuffle through in a year anyway.

I'm not going to blame a guy that has been around these guys at most for a grand total of 640 hours, MAXIMUM over the last 8 months, and that's if he spent every single available practice hour with them, which we know isn't the case, because there are a ton of other things going on. It's a bit insane to go after this guy after three weeks, considering that WE KNEW COMING IN that this WR room was mediocre. It's almost like people don't want to believe their own eyes.

they are not fits for the system. its obvious at this point. if a coach is unwilling to bend, then hes gonna fail. recruiting wise, hes not doing **** there either. every top tier guy told him to **** himself. hes gonna have to hit the portal to make up for what we wont land unless he changes the scheme to fit the players on the roster that gets results and gets recruits to buy in.

again, the WR can be average at best but you can still get guys to perform. the WR room is more talented than a lot of other rooms but we aren't doing anything to help them.

I am absolutely blaming the god **** WR coach for their fundamental issues. its his job to fix it. were in week 3 and guys are running wrong routes and its not one or two guys. its nearly all of them. none of them are blocking. this falls on their position coach

 

[SWFLHurricane]

Fair point. With that said, it is sometimes a two way street.

Who is the Mirabal of WR coaches??

I will say, looking how he has helped improve atrocious OL play has been impressive. If they keep this up, he better be a leading nominee for OL CoY honors.

Call this guy...and make him the Highest paid WR Coach in CFB.....Best UM ever had....

 

[GoCanes!!]

The wide receivers have some challenges at qb they have to overcome

I guarantee he's alot smarter than you when it comes to football. truth hurts sometimes and he's telling it like it is.. No more lies from this staff.

 

[Odysseus]

So *** all the bs and coach bashing, who starts this week at receiver and is that good enough

 

[Empirical Cane]

Can we all agree, just for a fantasy moment here, that HC Mario Cristobigballs knows what "right" looks like when it comes to receiver recruiting and training?

IF we can agree, if only for a fleeting moment of unity, above is basically true, let me pose this question....

Would HCMC tolerate or allow Gattis to deviate, depart, defy, whatever you call it from what he [Mario] knows is the "right" way to recruit and train WR?

Ita counterintuitive that we have Mario the Savage as HC, but then he allows substandard corching for one of his position groups??

 

[NorthEastCane]

What do you expect him to say publicly? His WR’s suck balls? He is saying that without saying it. Plus, he’s not lying.


Now, my beef with Gaddis is, if you did your HW, you would have realized the lack of talent and depth we have at WR, then why didn’t you pursue other WR’s in January and February?

They did but were not successful. However, their priority was clearly the trenches that were is horrid shape.

 

[NorthEastCane]

Fair point. With that said, it is sometimes a two way street.

Who is the Mirabal of WR coaches??

I will say, looking how he has helped improve atrocious OL play has been impressive. If they keep this up, he better be a leading nominee for OL CoY honors.

I think he's at OSU.

 

[@KingLew88]

Gattis already throwing the WRs under the bus.. SMH

That’s the start to the end of his tenure here

We’ve seen this song and dance WAY too many times to not predict the future

Who would’ve thought the “award winning” OC could be the reason TVDs season is wasted and we lose games we shouldn’t

Guy better get his head out of recruits mom’s asses and fix things

Telling them they have to get better is throwing them under the bus? Come on man