killa1storm
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No. At least it wouldn't for me.
In the redzone, and more specifically on the goaline the threat of the pass is reduced. Most defenses are just going to try to outnumber you in the box. There really is no way to get a hat on a hat on all necessary defenders in the scenario. Zone would actually be even more effective there IMO. But of course I'm talking about inside zone.
I did work with one coach who swore on the outside zone in that scenario. His reasoning was you're gonna be outnumbered up the middle, your best bet is to try to get the edge. And if you can get the defense moving horizontally your chances of a crease opening up increases. I guess I can see his reasoning, I don't agree though. I'd stick to straight inside zone there.
I agree with the coach you worked with. I ran that as a tail for 5 years in university in the redzone, it's a dream
Yea I see his logic because if you get those guys 'chasing' a crease is likely to open up somewhere and then you have a 2-for-1 option so to speak as far as running frontside or having something open up backside. Where I disagree is using it as a base, especially against a really fast penetrating type defense. But I guess in that scenario you have the possibility of the boot as a counter.
What set did you run the outside zone out of?
I'm in Canada so we played 12 man ball the sets we used were, 1 back 5wr or 2 back 4wr.
We mainly ran it out of a qb sneak or stretch play on the qb call, so the qb called either a qb sneak or stretch at the LOS. Used in any shortage situations, the read was how wide or tight and end played, if he played a 6tech or narrower run stretch to his side if they were wide and had 7 or less in the box or less he called qb sneak.
Interesting.
I've long been a fan of Canada because of the 3-down rules. I think it gives a broad view of how to attack a defense efficiently.
But back to the zone, we mostly ran it out of a single back set with a TE/Wing on the backside. Our second most popular set was with 2-backs in shotgun formation and the weak back would be out backside seal guy. That might seem odd especially for the outside zone because most coaches want to seal off the playside end but our philosophy was to seal the backside end. It created a huge cutback lane if the frontside was overplayed.
Now I like to see Trips there with maybe a TE opposite of trips to seal. What do you think about that? Advantages/disadvantages?