Miss st 8 wins in 2007

[Jaromir Jagr]

Hes doing it with 2 and 3 star players.

What is "it"? Losing to every ranked team on his schedule? Give me a bunch of 2 and 3 star players and I will lose to ranked teams just as much as Mullen does.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Mississippi State hasn't had a coach with an over .500 winning percentage since the 1950s. Mullen is at .597.

MSU is 7th of 7 teams in the SEC West in recruiting grounds and he has them competing in that league.

This is why you can't look strictly look at records.

Agreed. However, besides looking at the hand he was dealt, do you honestly feel that he has shown enough for you to feel comfortable with us turning the program over to him at such a critical juncture? If we shouldn't look too hard at his record what qualities do you feel Mullen possesses that makes his unimpressive record so far at MissSt more palatable? Is it his gameday coaching/playcalling? The way he recruits relative to circumstances? The way he developes, motivates and/or relates to his players? I

I would honestly like those that are pro-Mullen to provide some reasons as to why this guy should be at the top of our list.

But his record at MSU is impressive. He is winning more there then anyone has in the last 50 years. To expect someone to build a championship contending team from a bottom dweller is ridiculous. Briles is the only guy that I can think of that has done that and he wasn't in the SEC West.

He's a great offensive mind, he is Tom Herman before Herman was Herman. He's worked under the most ruthless savage in college football and has won 2 NCs as an OC. IMO, he has the exact traits of a HC that wins titles. Obsessed with winning, kind of an egomaniac and *******, and he wants this job bad. Why? Because he knows he can win a title here.

Maybe I have different goals then most of the fans on this site. I want to see Miami dominate and win NCs, not win 9 games and compete for the Coastal. Mullen gives Miami that chance IMO.

Jackie Sherrill's run at MSU was comparable to Mullen's, if not better.

Sherrill WON the SEC West in 1998, came in 2nd in the West twice, and third three times.

Mullen has never won the West. His best finish is 2nd; otherwise, he's finished 4th or 5th.

Sherrill-led MSU teams' best end-of-year rankings were: 12 (1999), 22 (2000), 23 (1992), 24 (1994).

Mullen-led MSU teams have ended the year ranked twice: 11 (2014) (including finishing the season with three losses in the last four games, including GA Tech, and only beating one end-of-year ranked team); 15 (2010)

The SEC West wasn't nearly as competitive then.

Jackie Sherrill did a good job, but context is important.

 

[tdjones34]

Youre going to use 1 year as your example????????

If your asking me that?
Im just saying it wasn't like Miss st never did what he is doing, they have been average since he arrived, he is Mr 5th place

He cant win big games, this isn't too bash him, just don't want to gamble on an average coach that may be good 1 day

Hes doing it with 2 and 3 star players.

Why aren't sec teams hiring him?
UGA takes a coordinater
USCE is now interviewing coordinators

if he was some hot commodity, wouldn't they know him

guess they don't know the guys that finish in 5th place every year

 

[tdjones34]

Hes doing it with 2 and 3 star players.

What is "it"? Losing to every ranked team on his schedule? Give me a bunch of 2 and 3 star players and I will lose to ranked teams just as much as Mullen does.

Nothing screams Average more than this guy and people want him to try and bring back Miami?
its absurd

 

[JerseyCanes]

We get all if the excuses. He can't recruit, he is in a tough division, Mississippi State has no history, etc.

Now, understanding all of that, can someone PLEASE finally tell us what he has done to be held in such high regard? We know the excuses for why he HASN'T won anything, now please tell us what he has done that is so great.

So Far no one has answered this man's question?

JC

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Hes doing it with 2 and 3 star players.

What is "it"? Losing to every ranked team on his schedule? Give me a bunch of 2 and 3 star players and I will lose to ranked teams just as much as Mullen does.

How about when he made it to number 1 in the country with 2 and 3 star players

 

[tdjones34]

We get all if the excuses. He can't recruit, he is in a tough division, Mississippi State has no history, etc.

Now, understanding all of that, can someone PLEASE finally tell us what he has done to be held in such high regard? We know the excuses for why he HASN'T won anything, now please tell us what he has done that is so great.

So Far no one has answered this man's question?

JC

he finishes in 5th place in the division and loses every game he is suppose too
a slight step up from golden and Shannon I guess

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Man, every candidate gets killed on these boards but if they were winning titles and BCS bowls they wouldn't be coming to Miami. You have three choices an up and comer (Herman who isn't coming), a guy stuck at a bad team (Mullen), or a guy who needs a new start (Richt). This fan base craps on all of these guys. Nick Saban isn't coming folks.

 

[tdjones34]

Hes doing it with 2 and 3 star players.

What is "it"? Losing to every ranked team on his schedule? Give me a bunch of 2 and 3 star players and I will lose to ranked teams just as much as Mullen does.

How about when he made it to number 1 in the country with 2 and 3 star players

And how did he do that again?
he beat 2 teams that ended up losing 5 games each
how did Mullen deal with the lucky break
he lost 3 of last 4 and got curb stomped by Ga Tech

 

[tdjones34]

Man, every candidate gets killed on these boards but if they were winning titles and BCS bowls they wouldn't be coming to Miami. You have three choices an up and comer (Herman who isn't coming), a guy stuck at a bad team (Mullen), or a guy who needs a new start (Richt). This fan base craps on all of these guys. Nick Saban isn't coming folks.

Yeah I feel you
But look at Mullen, he is nothing but average, if not for coaching under Urban he wouldn't be a name
he hasn't done anything special and he might be responsible for getting us back

again not knocking him, he makes a good 5th place coach in sec west

 

[Consigliere]

This may be one of the best porsts of all time.

1. Quotes random year to make an irrelevant point, check.

2. Fails to include the relevant, the year prior to Mullen 2008. In 2008, MSU went 4-8 (2-6). The HC before Mullen was Croom, he went 21-38 (10-30). Check.

3. Fails to acknowledge how bad MSU is over the last XXXX years prior to Mullen's arrival. Probably is amazing that a bottom dweller in the SEC was able to make a BCS game and be ranked #1 in the nation last year (for 4 weeks). Check

4. Automatically dismisses any arguments that render his porst WRONG. Check

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Hes doing it with 2 and 3 star players.

What is "it"? Losing to every ranked team on his schedule? Give me a bunch of 2 and 3 star players and I will lose to ranked teams just as much as Mullen does.

How about when he made it to number 1 in the country with 2 and 3 star players

Jim Leavitt says hello.

 

[tdjones34]

This may be one of the best porsts of all time.

1. Quotes random year to make an irrelevant point, check.

2. Fails to include the relevant, the year prior to Mullen 2008. In 2008, MSU went 4-8 (2-6). The HC before Mullen was Croom, he went 21-38 (10-30). Check.

3. Fails to acknowledge how bad MSU is over the last XXXX years prior to Mullen's arrival. Probably is amazing that a bottom dweller in the SEC was able to make a BCS game and be ranked [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] in the nation last year (for 4 weeks). Check

4. Automatically dismisses any arguments that render his porst WRONG. Check

Again what has he done that screams great?
He has been average

nothing has rendered me wrong

you sure didn't answer what has he done

1 guy said he was ranked #1 in the middle of a season that he closed with 3 of 4 loses and didn't beat a 10 win team

is that what makes him a Miami coach?

 

[tdjones34]

Hes doing it with 2 and 3 star players.

What is "it"? Losing to every ranked team on his schedule? Give me a bunch of 2 and 3 star players and I will lose to ranked teams just as much as Mullen does.

How about when he made it to number 1 in the country with 2 and 3 star players

Jim Leavitt says hello.

Leavitt was actually #2 h didn't get the sec bias to get to #1

 

[Consigliere]

This may be one of the best porsts of all time.

1. Quotes random year to make an irrelevant point, check.

2. Fails to include the relevant, the year prior to Mullen 2008. In 2008, MSU went 4-8 (2-6). The HC before Mullen was Croom, he went 21-38 (10-30). Check.

3. Fails to acknowledge how bad MSU is over the last XXXX years prior to Mullen's arrival. Probably is amazing that a bottom dweller in the SEC was able to make a BCS game and be ranked [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] in the nation last year (for 4 weeks). Check

4. Automatically dismisses any arguments that render his porst WRONG. Check

Again what has he done that screams great?
He has been average

nothing has rendered me wrong

you sure didn't answer what has he done

1 guy aid he was ranked #1 in the middle of a season that he closed with 3 of 4 loses and didn't beat a 10 win team

is that what makes him a Miami coach?

It is pretty pathetic you call him "average" yet fail to realize the cesspool of MSU.

You're wrong because you quoted some irrelevant year to prove NOTHING. You failed to acknowledge that Croom was (see the stats above potato) awful and that place is a cesspool. I don't know what you expect at MSU. Clearly NCs.

The part in bold, he isn't my first choice but at 43 years old he is the best of a lot of crap being mentioned. I would certainly take a risk with him than some of the retreads being mentioned.

 

[tdjones34]

This may be one of the best porsts of all time.

1. Quotes random year to make an irrelevant point, check.

2. Fails to include the relevant, the year prior to Mullen 2008. In 2008, MSU went 4-8 (2-6). The HC before Mullen was Croom, he went 21-38 (10-30). Check.

3. Fails to acknowledge how bad MSU is over the last XXXX years prior to Mullen's arrival. Probably is amazing that a bottom dweller in the SEC was able to make a BCS game and be ranked [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] in the nation last year (for 4 weeks). Check

4. Automatically dismisses any arguments that render his porst WRONG. Check

Again what has he done that screams great?
He has been average

nothing has rendered me wrong

you sure didn't answer what has he done

1 guy aid he was ranked #1 in the middle of a season that he closed with 3 of 4 loses and didn't beat a 10 win team

is that what makes him a Miami coach?

It is pretty pathetic you call him "average" yet fail to realize the cesspool of MSU.

You're wrong because you quoted some irrelevant year to prove NOTHING. You failed to acknowledge that Croom was (see the stats above potato) awful and that place is a cesspool. I don't know what you expect at MSU. Clearly NCs.

The part in bold, he isn't my first choice but at 43 years old he is the best of a lot of crap being mentioned. I would certainly take a risk with him than some of the retreads being mentioned.

I didn't mention a random year I said a year from when he took over.
2007 8 wins he took over in 2009 and has only won 9 twice since

I expect a coach we are considering to have done more

I have said average isn't bad and he is on the good side of average

He looks like a Miss St coach a usf coach etc

WHY hasn't other sec schools gone after him, they must know him right?

 

[Consigliere]

I didn't mention a random year I said a year from when he took over.
2007 8 wins he took over in 2009 and has only won 9 twice since

I expect a coach we are considering to have done more

I have said average isn't bad and he is on the good side of average

He looks like a Miss St coach a usf coach etc

WHY hasn't other sec schools gone after him, they must know him right?

You realize there is a year between 2007 and 2009. Mullen took over in 2009. Croom went 4-8 (2-6) in 2008. This is the year prior. 2007 is 2 years before. Hence your porst is irrelevant.

What the *** does the bold even mean?

How do you know who is going after Mullen? Do you know his agent? Do you know Dan personally?

Considering all the names mentioned (Richt, Butch, Schiano and Mullen), I don't see how you don't take a chance with the 43 year old.

As mentioned numerous times, the coach before Mullen went 21-38 (10-30) over 5 seasons. He averaged 4.2 wins per year and 2 wins in the SEC per year. MSU is a cesspool.

Does everyone see that this porster doesn't know there was a year between 2007 and 2009?

 

[tdjones34]

I didn't mention a random year I said a year from when he took over.
2007 8 wins he took over in 2009 and has only won 9 twice since

I expect a coach we are considering to have done more

I have said average isn't bad and he is on the good side of average

He looks like a Miss St coach a usf coach etc

WHY hasn't other sec schools gone after him, they must know him right?

You realize there is a year between 2007 and 2009. Mullen took over in 2009. Croom went 4-8 (2-6) in 2008. This is the year prior. 2007 is 2 years before. Hence your porst is irrelevant.

What the *** does the bold even mean?

How do you know who is going after Mullen? Do you know his agent? Do you know Dan personally?

Considering all the names mentioned (Richt, Butch, Schiano and Mullen), I don't see how you don't take a chance with the 43 year old.

As mentioned numerous times, the coach before Mullen went 21-38 (10-30) over 5 seasons. He averaged 4.2 wins per year and 2 wins in the SEC per year. MSU is a cesspool.

Does everyone see that this porster doesn't know there was a year between 2007 and 2009?

most of the people in here have said he is nothing great

So tell me about his staff? what guys can we expect, he is known for assembling great staffs right?

how about his defenses? what can we expect?

recruiting he is a known recruiter right??

we know he cant win big games but what about these?

 

[Consigliere]

most of the people in here have said he is nothing great

So tell me about his staff? what guys can we expect, he is known for assembling great staffs right?

how about his defenses? what can we expect?

recruiting he is a known recruiter right??

we know he cant win big games but what about these?

I am not saying he is great, I said he is my choice of a select group. I am also saying that no logic or reasoning penetrates your brain so what is the point.

2008 was in between 2007 and 2009, can you acknowledge that?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

As mentioned numerous times, the coach before Mullen went 21-38 (10-30) over 5 seasons. He averaged 4.2 wins per year and 2 wins in the SEC per year. MSU is a cesspool.

Yeah we get that. MSU is a cesspool. So, again, what has he done to make you think he can develop a top ten program and compete for championships?