Mike Bakas

Mike's analysis was always a joke. He knew nothing about X's and O's. His analysis was always about a kids offer sheet....and "he's being recruited like a 3/4/5 star"

To be fair to Mike, that is the primary way scout.com ranks players and associates appropriate star rating.

Fair doesn't mean over-generous. Mike would write that in premium board message threads and chat room discussions. It's not just company line article filler. It was his view. I'm not even saying it's an awful way to think about it, and there's some honesty in him not claiming more evaluating ability than he has. But it wasn't just because Scout used that format in articles that he parroted it over and over.
 
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Mike's analysis was always a joke. He knew nothing about X's and O's. His analysis was always about a kids offer sheet....and "he's being recruited like a 3/4/5 star"

To be fair to Mike, that is the primary way scout.com ranks players and associates appropriate star rating.

Fair doesn't mean over-generous. Mike would write that in premium board message threads and chat room discussions. It's not just company line article filler. It was his view. I'm not even saying it's an awful way to think about it, and there's some honesty in him not claiming more evaluating ability than he has. But it wasn't just because Scout used that format in articles that he parroted it over and over.

Perhaps he just didn't or doesn't know any better.

Most of his "big calls" in regards to evaluations are well documented cases where there were certain members of Randy's staff that were enamored with that player...you can connect those dots.

I mean, if your method of evaluating a 4* or 5* player is the fact that he is recruited by Miami, FSU, and UF...that is how it will usually be.

Me? I'd prefer an honest evaluation of their ability, but as has been discussed so many times before, there are so many factors that go into actually placing some sort of numerical rating on a high school player its silly.

I'm not making excuses for ol boy, I'm just saying, that's what he knows and I guess believes in. Plus, he was hella lazy, so its an easy fallback for him to evaluate based on the least amount of work possible. I don't agree with the method, especially when you are a state-guy and have more flexibility in your analysis and have more access (supposedly) to these players, but that is what it was, IMO.
 
Mike's analysis was always a joke. He knew nothing about X's and O's. His analysis was always about a kids offer sheet....and "he's being recruited like a 3/4/5 star"

To be fair to Mike, that is the primary way scout.com ranks players and associates appropriate star rating.

Fair doesn't mean over-generous. Mike would write that in premium board message threads and chat room discussions. It's not just company line article filler. It was his view. I'm not even saying it's an awful way to think about it, and there's some honesty in him not claiming more evaluating ability than he has. But it wasn't just because Scout used that format in articles that he parroted it over and over.

Perhaps he just didn't or doesn't know any better.

Most of his "big calls" in regards to evaluations are well documented cases where there were certain members of Randy's staff that were enamored with that player...you can connect those dots.

I mean, if your method of evaluating a 4* or 5* player is the fact that he is recruited by Miami, FSU, and UF...that is how it will usually be.

Me? I'd prefer an honest evaluation of their ability, but as has been discussed so many times before, there are so many factors that go into actually placing some sort of numerical rating on a high school player its silly.

I'm not making excuses for ol boy, I'm just saying, that's what he knows and I guess believes in. Plus, he was hella lazy, so its an easy fallback for him to evaluate based on the least amount of work possible. I don't agree with the method, especially when you are a state-guy and have more flexibility in your analysis and have more access (supposedly) to these players, but that is what it was, IMO.

He liked certain kids. Kids who would talk to him and who he built a personal relationship with. Those kids he would hype.

I'm just trying to be honest here.
 
Mike's analysis was always a joke. He knew nothing about X's and O's. His analysis was always about a kids offer sheet....and "he's being recruited like a 3/4/5 star"

To be fair to Mike, that is the primary way scout.com ranks players and associates appropriate star rating.

Fair doesn't mean over-generous. Mike would write that in premium board message threads and chat room discussions. It's not just company line article filler. It was his view. I'm not even saying it's an awful way to think about it, and there's some honesty in him not claiming more evaluating ability than he has. But it wasn't just because Scout used that format in articles that he parroted it over and over.

Perhaps he just didn't or doesn't know any better.

Most of his "big calls" in regards to evaluations are well documented cases where there were certain members of Randy's staff that were enamored with that player...you can connect those dots.

I mean, if your method of evaluating a 4* or 5* player is the fact that he is recruited by Miami, FSU, and UF...that is how it will usually be.

Me? I'd prefer an honest evaluation of their ability, but as has been discussed so many times before, there are so many factors that go into actually placing some sort of numerical rating on a high school player its silly.

I'm not making excuses for ol boy, I'm just saying, that's what he knows and I guess believes in. Plus, he was hella lazy, so its an easy fallback for him to evaluate based on the least amount of work possible. I don't agree with the method, especially when you are a state-guy and have more flexibility in your analysis and have more access (supposedly) to these players, but that is what it was, IMO.

He liked certain kids. Kids who would talk to him and who he built a personal relationship with. Those kids he would hype.

I'm just trying to be honest here.

That's not a lie...those kids also happened to have fans on the staff at the time (not necessarily Randy), as well, is the point I'm really trying to say when it comes to actual "evaluations".
 
Correct me if I'm wrong: isn't Bakas really a baseball guy covering football?

Yes, but watch out because he follows the NFL closely.

As someone who follows the NFL closely and watches a lot of games, I think Denver looks extremely tough right now. The Ravens are a banged up unit on defense, and I predict the Broncos to win by 10+.
Mike Bakas
Scout.com/FoxSports
 
Correct me if I'm wrong: isn't Bakas really a baseball guy covering football?

Yes, but watch out because he follows the NFL closely.

As someone who follows the NFL closely and watches a lot of games, I think Denver looks extremely tough right now. The Ravens are a banged up unit on defense, and I predict the Broncos to win by 10+.
Mike Bakas
Scout.com/FoxSports
Not to defend Bakas, but Denver was the favorite to win the game by most so called "NFL analysts" too. Manning offense, great defense, home field advantage and high altitude effect.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong: isn't Bakas really a baseball guy covering football?

Yes, but watch out because he follows the NFL closely.

As someone who follows the NFL closely and watches a lot of games, I think Denver looks extremely tough right now. The Ravens are a banged up unit on defense, and I predict the Broncos to win by 10+.
Mike Bakas
Scout.com/FoxSports
Not to defend Bakas, but Denver was the favorite to win the game by most so called "NFL analysts" too. Manning offense, great defense, home field advantage and high altitude effect.
they forgot about the Ray Lewis Effect
 
Bakas gained all his credibility betting against Shannon (great bet). 3 recruiting cycles later he's still simply picking the home team. None of the paysites are worth a **** anymore.
He had no credibility long before Shannon showed up, and he blew whatever he thought he had left in Randy's first two years before he realized what he was looking at. The whole 'cool, thanks 4 the analysis!' comment was a petty shot he took at me when I broke down some argument he was making for some Randy recruit.

Bakas never could analyze kids for isht, is the truth. He'd be right here or there, but wrong at least as much, and his rationales were more personality driven than based on analysis of actual ability.

All you need to know about Mike was summed up in the dispute that led to the spat that got nolady banned from Canestime. Mike was over-hyping Ryan Moore and Charlie Jones. Fish gets into it with him, and Mike tells him Ryan and Charlie will be hands down better than Reggie Bush and Mike Williams. Fish calls bullshiznizzle on him, and Mike banded him in a fit of spite.

The thing that bothered me about Mike was that he'd say something, deny that he ever said it, and then when you'd bump up exactly what he denied saying, he'd just ignore that isht. He did that to me on more than one occasion, and it drove me crazy. Let his *** make a correct call, though, and he'd be sure to let you know about it. He seems like a good guy and I won't trash him completely, but he would pull some stuff from time to time that would **** me off.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong: isn't Bakas really a baseball guy covering football?

Yes, but watch out because he follows the NFL closely.

As someone who follows the NFL closely and watches a lot of games, I think Denver looks extremely tough right now. The Ravens are a banged up unit on defense, and I predict the Broncos to win by 10+.
Mike Bakas
Scout.com/FoxSports
Not to defend Bakas, but Denver was the favorite to win the game by most so called "NFL analysts" too. Manning offense, great defense, home field advantage and high altitude effect.


I know, I'm just busting his balls.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong: isn't Bakas really a baseball guy covering football?

Yes, but watch out because he follows the NFL closely.

As someone who follows the NFL closely and watches a lot of games, I think Denver looks extremely tough right now. The Ravens are a banged up unit on defense, and I predict the Broncos to win by 10+.
Mike Bakas
Scout.com/FoxSports
Not to defend Bakas, but Denver was the favorite to win the game by most so called "NFL analysts" too. Manning offense, great defense, home field advantage and high altitude effect.
they forgot about the Ray Lewis Effect

The Raheem Morris effect.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong: isn't Bakas really a baseball guy covering football?

Yes, but watch out because he follows the NFL closely.

As someone who follows the NFL closely and watches a lot of games, I think Denver looks extremely tough right now. The Ravens are a banged up unit on defense, and I predict the Broncos to win by 10+.
Mike Bakas
Scout.com/FoxSports
Not to defend Bakas, but Denver was the favorite to win the game by most so called "NFL analysts" too. Manning offense, great defense, home field advantage and high altitude effect.
they forgot about the Ray Lewis Effect

The Raheem Morris effect.
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/ I think you meant Rahim Moore
 
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