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Official Miami Herald Bain article

TheOriginalCane said:
We don't even know if Rueben made a bad decision.

There were three other people in the car. One of whom was not a football player. Nobody knows if Rueben was the designated driver. Nobody knows what happened with the other vehicle. ****, a week ago, I was going north on US 1, heading up onto I-95, and there was some dip**** who just STOPPED in the right lane. No idea why, maybe he was lost, maybe he had car trouble, but it was dark and I'm lucky I saw the dude in time as the road was curving towards the left.

All of this nonsense is pure speculation. Did someone die? Sadly, yes. That doesn't mean that anyone did anything wrong. When cops write citations, it is almost always WITHOUT having witnessed the accident. The fact that there are no wrongful death lawsuits and no other criminal charges MIGHT BE a decent indication that nobody in the car (three other people) or the family of the one person who died...you know...might NOT think that Rueben did anything wrong.

But, yeah, some Gator alum Herald writer can spin a few context-less facts (and I'm not disputing the underlying truth of what he wrote) into something that sounds much more sinister in its implications.
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The family already said that they support Bain and wish him well.
 
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GojiraCane said:
Fatboycane said:
Does anyone besides my 90 year old mother even get the newspaper anymore?
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Why would you? The last time I got the Herald, it was about the size of the Sunday cartoon insert that used to be in the Sunday paper that my grandfather got in the 1980s.
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Back in the day there was nothing like dropping that Sunday morning deuce with the Herald sports page unfurled. Usually a solid Eddie the Pope column about previous days Canes game. Took a good 15 min to get through it
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Nobody is arguing with "factual" on an overly simplistic level.

People question the timing of the article and the implications of the headline. And, no, some "Ohio Taint fan" doesn't necessitate that article.
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Guarantee the Editor gave all of the reporters a long talk about how their paper was not the one who broke this story. The timing of it was simply them reporting it because it went national. I got an espn alert about this yesterday because I have Miami as my favorite team on their app. They couldn't wait a couple days and then put something out. Timing is everything in their world. The Ohio St cuck did this right before the draft on purpose to slander a person on the team who beat their precious cuckeyes.

But I do agree with you about the circumstances and the fact there was never any type of charges brought. Probably a good chance since there was a death there was pressure to find somebody to be at fault. I was side swiped by a 78 year old guy in the evening a few years back. We pulled over and he asked if I saw the tire rolling down the road too. I said I have no clue what you're talking about. You hit me. He told the cops I hit him, and they would not take statements from the people in my car since they were not "neutral." Insurance said there was nobody at fault and we each had to pay our own deductibles. I was furious, but all the more reason to get a dash cam in case anything like that does happen. All it takes it some old geezer who shouldnt be driving, or an ******* who just lies, and with no video proof its your word against theirs.
 
Fatboycane said:
Back in the day there was nothing like dropping that Sunday morning deuce with the Herald sports page unfurled. Usually a solid Eddie the Pope column about previous days Canes game. Took a good 15 min to get through it
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The Herald sports coverage used to be very comprehensive. They even had a pro wrestling column that was done by Alex Marvez.
 
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I lost a brother in a car accident many years ago. Aside from the pain, one of the more surprising and memorable (not in a good way) things I experienced was the complete lack of tact that some people had. There were a few people that I suspect wanted to read the police report and coroner’s report as their questions lacked any boundaries. There was another person that cornered me and told me all about how blessed I was that he died in an accident, not suicide like her family member (that was a 15 minute cringe session). Another woman told my parents “well at least you still have other kids.”

Some people are stupid. Some people are selfish. Some are both. Luckily, some are neither or at least know when to stfu. This story with Rueben is just another train wreck tv story. Así es.
 
JG14 said:
Guarantee the Editor gave all of the reporters a long talk about how their paper was not the one who broke this story. The timing of it was simply them reporting it because it went national. I got an espn alert about this yesterday because I have Miami as my favorite team on their app. They couldn't wait a couple days and then put something out. Timing is everything in their world. The Ohio St cuck did this right before the draft on purpose to slander a person on the team who beat their precious cuckeyes.

But I do agree with you about the circumstances and the fact there was never any type of charges brought. Probably a good chance since there was a death there was pressure to find somebody to be at fault. I was side swiped by a 78 year old guy in the evening a few years back. We pulled over and he asked if I saw the tire rolling down the road too. I said I have no clue what you're talking about. You hit me. He told the cops I hit him, and they would not take statements from the people in my car since they were not "neutral." Insurance said there was nobody at fault and we each had to pay our own deductibles. I was furious, but all the more reason to get a dash cam in case anything like that does happen. All it takes it some old geezer who shouldnt be driving, or an ******* who just lies, and with no video proof its your word against theirs.
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I'm not arguing with the "timing" of the Herald article vs. other media outlets. They are ALL guilty of rushing the reporting of the news.

My comment on timing (which applies to ESPN as well) is based on the proximity of the draft. And whether ESPN bothered to call even a single NFL source to learn that they've know of the story for months.

As for El Herald, they could EASILY have used their role as the hometown newspaper to do a more in-depth and insightful article than the rushed ESPN job, but they chose not to do so.
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
I lost a brother in a car accident many years ago. Aside from the pain, one of the more surprising and memorable (not in a good way) things I experienced was the complete lack of tact that some people had. There were a few people that I suspect wanted to read the police report and coroner’s report as their questions lacked any boundaries. There was another person that cornered me and told me all about how blessed I was that he died in an accident, not suicide like her family member (that was a 15 minute cringe session). Another woman told my parents “well at least you still have other kids.”

Some people are stupid. Some people are selfish. Some are both. Luckily, some are neither or at least know when to stfu. This story with Rueben is just another train wreck tv story. Así es.
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Very relevant, and painful, observations there.

I'm pointing out, there are a lot of relevant questions we can ask ourselves about what we know, don't know, and wish we knew about this situation.

And then there is the ESPN/Herald approach, where they ignore the nuances and merely talk about how CITATIONS WERE ISSUED and how SOMEONE DIED, without ever reflecting on the overall situation.

If there were 5 people in the car, that means there were 4 survivors too. Perhaps, given the totality of all the known facts, it's not such a good idea to focus the news article on citations written by a cop who didn't witness the accident. Even if the news article is accurate in the few facts that it does report.

When you OMIT certain factual details from an article, it allows assumptions and implications.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
I lost a brother in a car accident many years ago. Aside from the pain, one of the more surprising and memorable (not in a good way) things I experienced was the complete lack of tact that some people had. There were a few people that I suspect wanted to read the police report and coroner’s report as their questions lacked any boundaries. There was another person that cornered me and told me all about how blessed I was that he died in an accident, not suicide like her family member (that was a 15 minute cringe session). Another woman told my parents “well at least you still have other kids.”

Some people are stupid. Some people are selfish. Some are both. Luckily, some are neither or at least know when to stfu. This story with Rueben is just another train wreck tv story. Así es.
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Very relevant, and painful, observations there.

I'm pointing out, there are a lot of relevant questions we can ask ourselves about what we know, don't know, and wish we knew about this situation.

And then there is the ESPN/Herald approach, where they ignore the nuances and merely talk about how CITATIONS WERE ISSUED and how SOMEONE DIED, without ever reflecting on the overall situation.

If there were 5 people in the car, that means there were 4 survivors too. Perhaps, given the totality of all the known facts, it's not such a good idea to focus the news article on citations written by a cop who didn't witness the accident. Even if the news article is accurate in the few facts that it does report.

When you OMIT certain factual details from an article, it allows assumptions and implications.
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If I could offer some wisdom to the media on this one, stop trying to make fetch happen (Mean Girls reference). Sometimes it’s ok to leave things alone.
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
If I could offer some wisdom to the media on this one, stop trying to make fetch happen (Mean Girls reference). Sometimes it’s ok to leave things alone.
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Many in the media are nothing more than click whores making vain attempts to remain relevant by looking for any story to create an attention grabbing headline. These dip****s are fueled by the many that actually give them what they crave - clicks.
 
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Tony4Canes said:
I need to get my eyes checked!

Every time I see thread title, I'm thinking, Herald isn't his first name
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What'choo talkin' about? It's Harold "Rueben" Bain, on the left. Adopted son of Conrad...


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