Miami Has a Turnover Problem,

[caneaddict]

The worst thing for our players on defense is not the coaching, its the turnovers. We had 2 three and outs yesterday before the special teams handed the game over on a platter, and not only forced the defense back on the field the whole half with one play rest, but infused life and confidence into VT.

Look at the few halves this year where we havent turned the ball over and the defense has played well.

The margin for error on this team is tiny, and turnovers are the killer. We didnt have the luck last night we had against NC and Wake in comeback efforts.

We dont turn the ball over, we beat Duke by double digits.. Simple as that

 

[cane33]

LOL

 

[DeadPoets]

Please. We gave up 42 points.
Momentum swings in college & we are too weak minded and soft to overcome (& have awful schemes on both ends of the ball).

 

[Hurracanes]

Agree we have turnover issues; however, how do you explain giving up over 500 yards then? Turnover or not, our Defense wasn't stopping anyone last night.

 

[caneaddict]

Please. We gave up 42 points.
Momentum swings in college & we are too weak minded and soft to overcome (& have awful schemes on both ends of the ball).

there are momentum swings, and then there is handing the ball to the other team on three straight posessions on your side of the field, 2 of which was the playright after the defense was just on the field

 

[caneaddict]

LOL

Really? OK lets look at the halves where Miami either had no turnovers or 1 this season.

1st half Florida
2nd half Florida
2nd half GT
2nd half UNC
2nd half wake
first half FSU

 

[hoops156]

LOL

Really? OK lets look at the halves where Miami either had no turnovers or 1 this season.

1st half Florida
2nd half Florida
2nd half GT
2nd half UNC
2nd half wake
first half FSU

yes turnovers have hurt us but the D has been atrocious. they don't get off the field at all.

 

[cane33]

LOL

Really? OK lets look at the halves where Miami either had no turnovers or 1 this season.

1st half Florida
2nd half Florida
2nd half GT
2nd half UNC
2nd half wake
first half FSU

Turnovers are a killer but to sit here and focus on turnovers completely ignores a dozen other bigger problems facing this team.

The only thing not turning the ball over yesterday would have done for us is just made them use up even more clock to score.

 

[caneaddict]

LOL

Really? OK lets look at the halves where Miami either had no turnovers or 1 this season.

1st half Florida
2nd half Florida
2nd half GT
2nd half UNC
2nd half wake
first half FSU

Turnovers are a killer but to sit here and focus on turnovers completely ignores a dozen other bigger problems facing this team.

The only thing not turning the ball over yesterday would have done for us is just made them use up even more clock to score.

the problems facing this team are not fixable with scheme or coaching, its recruiting and developing, and experience and learning. Ive already said it in another thread walsh and lombardi couldnt do much more with our upprclassmen, NFL draft will once again tell the story,

 

[cane33]

LOL

Really? OK lets look at the halves where Miami either had no turnovers or 1 this season.

1st half Florida
2nd half Florida
2nd half GT
2nd half UNC
2nd half wake
first half FSU

Turnovers are a killer but to sit here and focus on turnovers completely ignores a dozen other bigger problems facing this team.

The only thing not turning the ball over yesterday would have done for us is just made them use up even more clock to score.

the problems facing this team are not fixable with scheme or coaching, its recruiting and developing, and experience and learning. Ive already said it in another thread walsh and lombardi couldnt do much more with our upprclassmen, NFL draft will once again tell the story,

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Vince Lombardi would never give up 500 yards of offense at home to the 100th ranked offense in the country no matter who the **** was playing.

 

[caneaddict]

LOL

Really? OK lets look at the halves where Miami either had no turnovers or 1 this season.

1st half Florida
2nd half Florida
2nd half GT
2nd half UNC
2nd half wake
first half FSU

Turnovers are a killer but to sit here and focus on turnovers completely ignores a dozen other bigger problems facing this team.

The only thing not turning the ball over yesterday would have done for us is just made them use up even more clock to score.

the problems facing this team are not fixable with scheme or coaching, its recruiting and developing, and experience and learning. Ive already said it in another thread walsh and lombardi couldnt do much more with our upprclassmen, NFL draft will once again tell the story,

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Vince Lombardi would never give up 500 yards of offense at home to the 100th ranked offense in the country no matter who the **** was playing.

If time of posession was 35-18 like it was yesterday at 53 min, with special teams spotting the ball in UM territory 3 times quite possibly

 

[Canesfan1899]

The defense has to step up once and a while, they've been bad for 3 straight weeks. Look at what FSU just did to Wake and Tanner Price, **** we made them look credible and they've scored 3 points the last 2 weeks in losses to Syracuse and FSU. We just sit back and hope teams will kick field goals all day instead of trying to limit yards and points.

 

[SmokeyRone]

Golden lost the team when they played around at USF (our first turnovers, failed 4th and one inches, missed FGs, garbage play)

He never got them recovered.

Just like Randy lost his 2009 team against FAMU. Same thing.

 

[SmokeyRone]

The defense has to step up once and a while, they've been bad for 3 straight weeks. Look at what FSU just did to Wake and Tanner Price, **** we made them look credible and they've scored 3 points the last 2 weeks in losses to Syracuse and FSU. We just sit back and hope teams will kick field goals all day instead of trying to limit yards and points.

We didn't turn the ball over in the 2nd half, and after a FG to get within striking distance, we let VT drive 80 yards for an easy TD.

 

[caneaddict]

Golden lost the team when they played around at USF (our first turnovers, failed 4th and one inches, missed FGs, garbage play)

He never got them recovered.

Just like Randy lost his 2009 team against FAMU. Same thing.

Its not the same thing, first off USF would beat FAMU 42-0, secondly Shannon had NFL caliber players on his roster from the previous head coach and his early recruiting success, he did not inherit a team completely bereft of talent with a NCAA ****bomb looming. And lastly I dont think Shannon was ever 7-2 while he coached at Miami

 

[zone3cane]

 

[Notsince1985]

Do we win without the turnovers yesterday? Maybe. You could make a case, but that's not the point. We still saw one of the worst defensive performances in a long time, and that's saying something with what we've seen over the last 3 years.

If we had a good DC and a good defense we overcome those turnovers. Case in point, the first turnover gave them the ball on their 45, not on our 5. They still marched more than 50 yards to score. Second turnover, they got the ball at our 45, again, not our 5. They still went half of the field to score with ease. Also, we took the momentum back by cutting it to 21-14 and then defense not only allows them to get back into FG range, they give up the 3rd down play for the TD and it's 28-14. We score to make it 28-17 and the defense, after a timeout, lets a guy run wide open for a 50 yard TD to go up 35-17. Then we cut it to 35-24 and the defense doesn't even come close to stopping them and they put the game away. The turnovers hurt, but we had 4-5 chances to take back control of the game with one defensive stop, and we couldn't do it. In spite of the turnovers, that game was still sitting there for the taking and we didn't take it. Mostly because of the soft defense we played (was called by Coach D).

 

[SmokeyRone]

Do we win without the turnovers yesterday? Maybe. You could make a case, but that's not the point. We still saw one of the worst defensive performances in a long time, and that's saying something with what we've seen over the last 3 years.

If we had a good DC and a good defense we overcome those turnovers. Case in point, the first turnover gave them the ball on their 45, not on our 5. They still marched more than 50 yards to score. Second turnover, they got the ball at our 45, again, not our 5. They still went half of the field to score with ease. Also, we took the momentum back by cutting it to 21-14 and then defense not only allows them to get back into FG range, they give up the 3rd down play for the TD and it's 28-14. We score to make it 28-17 and the defense, after a timeout, lets a guy run wide open for a 50 yard TD to go up 35-17. Then we cut it to 35-24 and the defense doesn't even come close to stopping them and they put the game away. The turnovers hurt, but we had 4-5 chances to take back control of the game with one defensive stop, and we couldn't do it. In spite of the turnovers, that game was still sitting there for the taking and we didn't take it. Mostly because of the soft defense we played (was called by Coach D).

Yep. Duke turned the ball over 5 times, 4 inside their own fifty, and held VT to 10 points.

 

[Port Knox]

Way too many garbage threads going right now.

 

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