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Notre dame has the edge with the inferior common opponents, assuming they decimate a porous Stanford

When it comes to common opponents with winning records though? I’m waiting for Joey Galloway to deplete his brain of oxygen from ketamine so he can perform the worlds greatest mental gymnastics yet again. We really gotta stop letting stupid mother****ers from having the loudest voice
 
According to FPI:

Miami average opponent FPI: 45.4
ND average Opponent FPI: 54.6

Average record of teams beat
Miami: 5-7 (opponent average FPI of 39.3)
Notre Dame: 4-8 (average opponent FPI of 65.1)

*** this is without an updated FPI for week 14***

I know FPI is NOT the end all be all but wtf ?? This is by ESPN’s own metrics.

Only difference is our opponents we lost to

ND: Miami & A&M B2B (average FPI of 9.5)
Miami: Louisville & SMU (average FPI of 32 and that’s without Louisville most DEFINITELY rising after their dominant win today) wouldn’t be surprised to see this number creep up closer to 25, even higher if SMU wins today too.

BOTTOM LINE: Miami’s resume > ND, last year wins MATTERED. This year should be the same. Hopefully with A&M losing that makes ND’s good losses look a bit worse.

I swear if they use as a “good loss” and STILL exclude us….the eye test metric is dead. We look DANGEROUS. If ND starts off slow against Stanford and struggles in any way that should seal the deal in our favor.
 
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Kjdcanefan said:
Let's also move to the second argument:

Miami and Notre Dame versus common opponent, Pittsburgh.

Margin of Victory: Miami

Total offense: Miami

Points allowed: Miami

Should it even be a debate anymore?
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I truly believe the committee waited until the last possible moment to see how Miami looked against Pitt before moving us ahead of Notre Dame. They needed to see the full body of work to be able to compare each team side by side. Now that we have passed their "eye test" and "consistency test", they are out of excuses.

They probably wanted to see Miami lose or win ugly so they wouldn't have to make a tough decision. Now they have to do what they didn't want to do. So if you ask me, we are in and it's Notre Dame that needs the help to get in (they need the upsets that we were hoping for)
 
CanesDynasty said:
I truly believe the committee waited until the last possible moment to see how Miami looked against Pitt before moving us ahead of Notre Dame. They needed to see the full body of work to be able to compare each team side by side. Now that we have passed their "eye test" and "consistency test", they are out of excuses.

They probably wanted to see Miami lose or win ugly so they wouldn't have to make a tough decision. Now they have to do what they didn't want to do. So if you ask me, we are in and it's Notre Dame that needs the help to get in (they need the upsets that we were hoping for)
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they are putting Notre Dame in no matter what
 
Miami 27 - Notre Dame 24

Pitt - 8-2 outside of Miami/ND
Miami: 31pt MOV, 48-7
Notre Dame: 22pt MOV, 37-15

NCSt - 6-3 outside Miami/ND
Miami: 34pt MOV, 41-7
Notre Dame: 29pt MOV, 36-7

Stanford - 4-6 outside Miami/ND.
Miami: 35pt MOV, 42-7
Notre Dame: 29pt MOV, 49-20

Syracuse - 3-6 outside Miami/ND
Miami: 28pt MOV, 38-10
Notre Dame: 63pt MOV, 70-7

So against our worst common opponent in a game that teams top 2 QBs were out, they blew out Syracuse by more than us. H2H and the 3 better common opponents we beat by more than they did.
 
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