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Miami Baseball Forum 12/4/24

ErickMarreroU said:
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When this was initially proposed, I thought it would be a difference maker for the early adopters who could throw 100% scholarships at mid-to-late round draft eligible players.

If those early adopters won, then you’d see more schools just go this route.

Unfortunately, I think NIL is the key to any sport. Most kids and their reps couldn’t give less of a **** about scholarship $ from the school. If I had to guess, it would be:

1. NIL
2. Playing time
3. Scholarship $ contributions
 
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Ghandi said:
When this was initially proposed, I thought it would be a difference maker for the early adopters who could throw 100% scholarships at mid-to-late round draft eligible players.

If those early adopters won, then you’d see more schools just go this route.

Unfortunately, I think NIL is the key to any sport. Most kids and their reps couldn’t give less of a **** about scholarship $ from the school. If I had to guess, it would be:

1. NIL
2. Playing time
3. Scholarship $ contributions
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I think playing time truly factors in more than NIL. You have to remember majority of these baseball families are middle class to wealthy. They care about development, not short term cash. Playing is #1 in my opinion for all levels HS and transfers. Scholarships are part of NIL so I would say they are tied in together, because the NIL is used to cover the remaining cost of the tuitions + extra cash for the kid
 
ErickMarreroU said:
I think playing time truly factors in more than NIL. You have to remember majority of these baseball families are middle class to wealthy. They care about development, not short term cash. Playing is #1 in my opinion for all levels HS and transfers. Scholarships are part of NIL so I would say they are tied in together, because the NIL is used to cover the remaining cost of the tuitions + extra cash for the kid
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If playing time was the true measure of the decision, you’d see a lot more young talent migrate to lower tiered school (D1/D2/JUCO) to play right away.

Essentially turning to the CFB model of development and extraction of productive kids who perform at the lower levels.

Instead, what you see is tons of kids consolidating at UT, Bama, etc and bounce down after they don’t make the fall cut or get no playing time.
 
Ghandi said:
If playing time was the true measure of the decision, you’d see a lot more young talent migrate to lower tiered school (D1/D2/JUCO) to play right away.

Essentially turning to the CFB model of development and extraction of productive kids who perform at the lower levels.

Instead, what you see is tons of kids consolidating at UT, Bama, etc and bounce down after they don’t make the fall cut or get no playing time.
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A lot of talent is already migrating to those levels, and next year it will be a bigger migration because of the rosters having to be cut down to 34. Each D1 roster will have to be cut 5-8 players
 
ErickMarreroU said:
A lot of talent is already migrating to those levels, and next year it will be a bigger migration because of the rosters having to be cut down to 34. Each D1 roster will have to be cut 5-8 players
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Good point, I forgot about the reduction of scholarships. That’s 700+ D1 players that are good enough to play ball.

My son is a class of 2026 1B and ranked in the state, but is being pushed down to mid-D2 and JUCO outside of FL due to the influx of D1 players moving around.
 
Ghandi said:
Good point, I forgot about the reduction of scholarships. That’s 700+ D1 players that are good enough to play ball.

My son is a class of 2026 1B and ranked in the state, but is being pushed down to mid-D2 and JUCO outside of FL due to the influx of D1 players moving around.
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It's terrible for his long-term school if he plans to play baseball and get to D1. With all the transferring and losing credits (assuming that is how it goes) But do not be discouraged @Ghandi look at our roster alone. Our Starting 9.

Vance Sheahan USC Upstate, to Miami
Derek Williams: FR Mineral Area? / SO Florida SouthWestern (JUCO) / JR Wichita State / SR Miami
Jake Odgen: FR Barry U (D2) / SO UNC Greensboro (Midmajor) / JR/SR Miami
Max Galvin: FR/SO Miami Dade (JUCO) / JR Oklahoma State / SR Miami
Cian Copeland: FR Miami Dade (JUCO) / SO Miami
Brylan West: FR/SO South Florida St (JUCO) / JR/SR FIU / Grad Miami

6 of our 9 starters started at either Midmajor or JUCO-D3.
 
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