Miami @ App St on ESPN

[AV1994]

Canes by 20

 

[deleted14210]

CMR and uga had to go into overtime last yr to beat georgia southern....that was the final straw like it was for muschamp @fl

 

[atlantacane17]

incorrect. kirby told the AD he was ready and USC was throwing all sorts of money at kirby. tarkenton had been quietly mounting a campaign to get rid of richt and pushing big donors/boosters to put pressure on the AD. my dad is a big booster and runs in those circle. AD would have been fired if Kirby would have gone to USC. kirby had been reaching out for a few years but people weren't ready to throw richt under the bus yet cause they kept having 10 win seasons and everyone liked richt.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

There is no doubt that Miami should be favored to win, and expected to win, but the confidence of our fan base is a bit much on this one. As far as advanced analytics go, App. State was a better team last year. In fact, we didn't fare better than any App. State in any metric you want to choose.

Opponent adjusted stats for offense, defense, special teams, possession efficiency, field position efficiency. You name it. App State was better. They are 17-2 in their last 19 FBS games. Where is the Manny Diaz defense most vulnerable with this secondary? In explosive plays. App State was 7th in the nation in explosive plays last year. They did this mostly through a power spread rushing attack...another area that Diaz' defenses have struggled.

Again, you should expect Miami to win, you should expect improvement due to coaching and game planning, but to expect Miami to walk into a crazy atmosphere at noon early in the season and blow this team out is expecting a lot.

The sweaty mamaluke won't be our coach for this game, if he were, I'd be worried.

These were App State's wins last year:

Howard Bison
Old Dominion
Wyoming
Georgia State
ULM
Georgia Southern
Troy Trojans
Idaho
Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns
South Alabama Jaguars

Losses:

Arkansas State
Clemson

I don't know what you mean by "opponent adjusted" statistics, but I am NOT in awe of 10 wins with that type of schedule, unless I was another team in the Sunbelt

Their national rankings are meaningless when you look at their opposition.

The only way to be concerned about this game is if somehow we think the current crop of players have not adjusted to Richt and his staff, or are not responding to his coaching, by the third game of the season. That will be the only thing that would worry me, but I don't see that happening. Again, Fat Alfonso is not coaching.

Opponent adjusted is exactly what it sounds like. It accounts for their opposition. If you aren't accounting for the fact App State plays in the Sun Belt, all of their information is useless. If you do account for the fact that they are in the Sun Belt, you should take notice of their results.

I knew it wouldn't be popular to bring advanced stats into play, but if you are simply going to say, "here is who they beat, I'm not impressed" and not take into account how they beat those teams, and the results factored in, plus the fact this is their Super Bowl and our kids will be expecting to blow them out, then we probably aren't going to be able to have a productive conversation.

Exactly what is the methodology of "opponent adjusted" data/rankings?

What is the methodology, exactly, that gives them comparative rankings to P5 teams.

If you just throw out "opponent adjusted" without any kind of validation, it's just goobledeedook nonsense.

Please, I'd love to see these "opponent adjust" stats when they only played one P5 team.

I'll be waiting right here.

 

[jakeman1]

incorrect. kirby told the AD he was ready and USC was throwing all sorts of money at kirby. tarkenton had been quietly mounting a campaign to get rid of richt and pushing big donors/boosters to put pressure on the AD. my dad is a big booster and runs in those circle. AD would have been fired if Kirby would have gone to USC. kirby had been reaching out for a few years but people weren't ready to throw richt under the bus yet cause they kept having 10 win seasons and everyone liked richt.

That's what I'd heard too. I know the boosters were really upset after the UF game. I'd heard they met with the AD then and wanted him gone, but it was really the fact that USC was about to go hard after Smart, and they didn't want to lose him. South Carolina apparently was close to getting Herman, but somebody talked before the deal was done, and Herman walked away from it.

 

[DTP]

As long as Miami doesn't mess around and/or commit a bunch of turnovers, this game shouldn't be worrisome. App State isn't a total pushover, especially in their own stadium but their talent level is significantly worse. They'd probably be at the bottom or near the bottom of the ACC. It's going to take a near perfect game for them to stay in it. I'd say momentum keeps them in it for a half at most but Miami is too much and pulls away for a 17+ point win.

 

[BODESLAM]

NO FG BLOCKIE NEEDED....CARRY ON

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

There is no doubt that Miami should be favored to win, and expected to win, but the confidence of our fan base is a bit much on this one. As far as advanced analytics go, App. State was a better team last year. In fact, we didn't fare better than any App. State in any metric you want to choose.

Opponent adjusted stats for offense, defense, special teams, possession efficiency, field position efficiency. You name it. App State was better. They are 17-2 in their last 19 FBS games. Where is the Manny Diaz defense most vulnerable with this secondary? In explosive plays. App State was 7th in the nation in explosive plays last year. They did this mostly through a power spread rushing attack...another area that Diaz' defenses have struggled.

Again, you should expect Miami to win, you should expect improvement due to coaching and game planning, but to expect Miami to walk into a crazy atmosphere at noon early in the season and blow this team out is expecting a lot.

Good god.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Still waiting on the data for "Opponent adjusted stats" data and what that actually means

My man throws this out and then doesn't back it up.

Unless they're adjusting for the 10 shīttÿ teams APP State played, data's worthless to use as a comparison to Miami or any other P5 team.

 

[omaha]

There is no doubt ESPN wants to televise a potential loss for Miami. This is also an opportunity for them to showcase Kayaa if he goes off. If Miami gets beat it is the David vs Goliath they can run over and over. If Miami puts the beat down on them they can show Miami as the villain beating up on the little guy. It is a win win for ESPN.

 

[Canes21]

Or like someone else pointed out, the day slate of games is not great that Saturday and our matchup is actually one of the better games.

 

[SpikeUM]

I am in Boone right now and its GORGEOUS. Beautiful location for a fall football game.

 

[BigDikCane]

There is no doubt that Miami should be favored to win, and expected to win, but the confidence of our fan base is a bit much on this one. As far as advanced analytics go, App. State was a better team last year. In fact, we didn't fare better than any App. State in any metric you want to choose.

Opponent adjusted stats for offense, defense, special teams, possession efficiency, field position efficiency. You name it. App State was better. They are 17-2 in their last 19 FBS games. Where is the Manny Diaz defense most vulnerable with this secondary? In explosive plays. App State was 7th in the nation in explosive plays last year. They did this mostly through a power spread rushing attack...another area that Diaz' defenses have struggled.

Again, you should expect Miami to win, you should expect improvement due to coaching and game planning, but to expect Miami to walk into a crazy atmosphere at noon early in the season and blow this team out is expecting a lot.

The sweaty mamaluke won't be our coach for this game, if he were, I'd be worried.

These were App State's wins last year:

Howard Bison
Old Dominion
Wyoming
Georgia State
ULM
Georgia Southern
Troy Trojans
Idaho
Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns
South Alabama Jaguars

Losses:

Arkansas State
Clemson

I don't know what you mean by "opponent adjusted" statistics, but I am NOT in awe of 10 wins with that type of schedule, unless I was another team in the Sunbelt

Their national rankings are meaningless when you look at their opposition.

The only way to be concerned about this game is if somehow we think the current crop of players have not adjusted to Richt and his staff, or are not responding to his coaching, by the third game of the season. That will be the only thing that would worry me, but I don't see that happening. Again, Fat Alfonso is not coaching.

Opponent adjusted is exactly what it sounds like. It accounts for their opposition. If you aren't accounting for the fact App State plays in the Sun Belt, all of their information is useless. If you do account for the fact that they are in the Sun Belt, you should take notice of their results.

I knew it wouldn't be popular to bring advanced stats into play, but if you are simply going to say, "here is who they beat, I'm not impressed" and not take into account how they beat those teams, and the results factored in, plus the fact this is their Super Bowl and our kids will be expecting to blow them out, then we probably aren't going to be able to have a productive conversation.

Exactly what is the methodology of "opponent adjusted" data/rankings?

What is the methodology, exactly, that gives them comparative rankings to P5 teams.

If you just throw out "opponent adjusted" without any kind of validation, it's just goobledeedook nonsense.

Please, I'd love to see these "opponent adjust" stats when they only played one P5 team.

I'll be waiting right here.

LOL... **** was he really a staff writer

 

[plantcity3]

This ninja tried to use "opponent adjusted" stats to justify why we should tamper our expectations against App ******* State.......[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[BigDikCane]

Still waiting on the data for "Opponent adjusted stats" data and what that actually means

My man throws this out and then doesn't back it up.

Unless they're adjusting for the 10 shīttÿ teams APP State played, data's worthless to use as a comparison to Miami or any other P5 team.

lol... Brah you're a data kill GOd right now.