MIAMI’S REAL DECADE OF DARKNESS

1970 Tate/Kichefski 3–8
Fran Curci (Independent) (1971–1972)
1971 Curci 4–7
1972 Curci 5–6
Pete Elliott (Independent) (1973–1974)
1973 Elliott 5–6
1974 Elliott 6–5
Carl Selmer (Independent) (1975–1976)
1975 Selmer 2–8
1976 Selmer 3–8
Lou Saban (Independent) (1977–1978)
1977 Saban 3–8
1978 Saban 6–5
Howard Schnellenberger (Independent) (1979–1983)
1979 Schnellenberger 5–6

This was the time when it wasn’t easy being a Canes fan but easy to get great seats for cheap prices. We had the gator Flop, a coach fired at a hockey game and consideration of shutting down the program. This was truly the Decade of Darkness

How well I remember those years. You had to be drunk to watch those teams. Just awful football. That said, if Donna had stayed President and we had Golden much longer, things would have gotten back to that level. As bad as those teams were, I don't think they would have lost a game 58-0. They played some good teams back then as an independent, and usually were able to score at least one time in most games. Players were JAGS with the exception of a few guys like George Mira and Ted Hendricks.
 
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As bad as the 70's were, since there was no expectations or great teams to look back on, it was not as bad as having to suffer through the Shannon/Golden years when you knew this school could be so much better.
In this case the saying so was true "ignorance is bliss"
 
As bad as the 70's were, since there was no expectations or great teams to look back on, it was not as bad as having to suffer through the Shannon/Golden years when you knew this school could be so much better.
In this case the saying so was true "ignorance is bliss"

This. It was Schnelly who really made the difference.

Shalala destroyed the program incrementally, much to the seeming delight of many of our fans.
 
Actually, Alex Hornibrook is John's great-nephew.


EDIT: Sorry, did not see previous post stating this.

Did Larry Pfohl have a brief stop at Penn State before UM?
 
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1970 Tate/Kichefski 3–8
Fran Curci (Independent) (1971–1972)
1971 Curci 4–7
1972 Curci 5–6
Pete Elliott (Independent) (1973–1974)
1973 Elliott 5–6
1974 Elliott 6–5
Carl Selmer (Independent) (1975–1976)
1975 Selmer 2–8
1976 Selmer 3–8
Lou Saban (Independent) (1977–1978)
1977 Saban 3–8
1978 Saban 6–5
Howard Schnellenberger (Independent) (1979–1983)
1979 Schnellenberger 5–6

This was the time when it wasn’t easy being a Canes fan but easy to get great seats for cheap prices. We had the gator Flop, a coach fired at a hockey game and consideration of shutting down the program. This was truly the Decade of Darkness

How well I remember those years. You had to be drunk to watch those teams. Just awful football. That said, if Donna had stayed President and we had Golden much longer, things would have gotten back to that level. As bad as those teams were, I don't think they would have lost a game 58-0. They played some good teams back then as an independent, and usually were able to score at least one time in most games. Players were JAGS with the exception of a few guys like George Mira and Ted Hendricks.


Hendricks and Mira Sr. did not play the in the '70's. Mira Sr. was early '60's and Hendricks was '66-'68.

We had some great defensive lineman in the '70's: Don Smith (Falcons starter), Eddie Edwards (Bengals starter), (Don Latimer (Broncos).

We had a starter DL with Buffalo, I think. Can't remember for sure. Not sure if Don Smith was with Falcons or Bills. Doing this on my phone and don't have time to research.

I will hink one big problem we had in that era was lack of resources. I don't know if we were able to have as many players on scholarship as the big powers. There was less parity.
 
Darkness isn't a problem when all you know is darkness. After seeing the light this past decade of darkness is soul crushing.
 
As bad as the 70's were, since there was no expectations or great teams to look back on, it was not as bad as having to suffer through the Shannon/Golden years when you knew this school could be so much better.
In this case the saying so was true "ignorance is bliss"

We actually were ranked 3 times in 60's and went to 4 bowl games when going to a bowl meant something and we were actually picked by a least one publication as preseason #1 in 1967 and had a player Bobby Best on cover of Sports Illustrated annual college football issue
 
Quite frankly the teams were bad, but it was not Dark because we had never won anything of significance.

Lou Saban left a nice shelf of players for Schellenberger to build around. 1983 season we win it all and very soon became the U.

Andy Gustafson's days were considered the glory days back then. The 1970s were bad, although Miami had never experienced glory before then.

Schnellenberger was the man who set the new standard for the U.
 
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Whats amazing is how many good NFL players came from teams in the 70's even though we were perennial losers
 
Not close to accurate. That was a fun decade. I loved attending those games. The Orange Bowl was special...period. So that aspect alone made the games worthwhile.

The team was never boring. We had ultra talented players at key positions throughout the decade, from Chuck Foreman at the outset to the promise of Jim Kelly at the end. Quarterbacking was an exception until Kelly. But the defensive tackles came in waves and that allowed us to outplay our general ability level countless times, from the famous upset of Texas in the 1973 opener to twice nearly upending a dominant Oklahoma team as massive underdog when the Sooners were in their early wishbone heyday under Barry Switzer.

I was a young teenager but I already understood one aspect: You couldn't get carried away with recent results as opposed to the overall level of the team. Consequently every time the Canes would play one of those surprisingly impressive games, and everyone would start projecting great things ahead, I would say nope...we're not that good. Plummet likely. Friends in school and fans seated next to me would congratulate me on figuring it out beforehand.

OJ Anderson might have been the greatest offensive player in the history of the program. That in itself was a '70s treat. His feet and instincts were surreal. Anderson is still criminally underrated by younger fans, ones who see his Giants clips and envision a bigger plodding running back.

Powerhouse teams came to the Orange Bowl annually. They would bring lots of fans and often their full band. We were playing the likes of Alabama and Oklahoma and Notre Dame and Texas. You got a feel for their fan base and traditions.

Plus we had the annual crack at the Gators, unlike today. That game could make the season. Obviously there was animosity between the two fan bases but it hadn't reached the '80s level yet, partially because the two teams were not nationally relevant.

I feel immensely sorry for younger fans who grow up believing that Florida State is our main rival. Unbelievable. There is nothing as overpowering and satisfying at hatred toward anything related to the University of Florida. With Florida State it's more like hating a car wash.

Denouncing the '70s looks clever only when you know what the future held. Meanwhile during those '70s seasons we had no idea the Canes would ever be worth more than an occasional minor bowl. It's like the rules of catching a pass today compared to 30 years ago. Easy to fool yourself when you don't understand the mindset of the time frame. Nobody was fretting that we're going 3-8 when it should be national championship potential. The Dolphins defined South Florida. The Canes were the fun Saturday warmup.
 
Not close to accurate. That was a fun decade. I loved attending those games. The Orange Bowl was special...period. So that aspect alone made the games worthwhile.

The team was never boring. We had ultra talented players at key positions throughout the decade, from Chuck Foreman at the outset to the promise of Jim Kelly at the end. Quarterbacking was an exception until Kelly. But the defensive tackles came in waves and that allowed us to outplay our general ability level countless times, from the famous upset of Texas in the 1973 opener to twice nearly upending a dominant Oklahoma team as massive underdog when the Sooners were in their early wishbone heyday under Barry Switzer.

I was a young teenager but I already understood one aspect: You couldn't get carried away with recent results as opposed to the overall level of the team. Consequently every time the Canes would play one of those surprisingly impressive games, and everyone would start projecting great things ahead, I would say nope...we're not that good. Plummet likely. Friends in school and fans seated next to me would congratulate me on figuring it out beforehand.

OJ Anderson might have been the greatest offensive player in the history of the program. That in itself was a '70s treat. His feet and instincts were surreal. Anderson is still criminally underrated by younger fans, ones who see his Giants clips and envision a bigger plodding running back.

Powerhouse teams came to the Orange Bowl annually. They would bring lots of fans and often their full band. We were playing the likes of Alabama and Oklahoma and Notre Dame and Texas. You got a feel for their fan base and traditions.

Plus we had the annual crack at the Gators, unlike today. That game could make the season. Obviously there was animosity between the two fan bases but it hadn't reached the '80s level yet, partially because the two teams were not nationally relevant.

I feel immensely sorry for younger fans who grow up believing that Florida State is our main rival. Unbelievable. There is nothing as overpowering and satisfying at hatred toward anything related to the University of Florida. With Florida State it's more like hating a car wash.

Denouncing the '70s looks clever only when you know what the future held. Meanwhile during those '70s seasons we had no idea the Canes would ever be worth more than an occasional minor bowl. It's like the rules of catching a pass today compared to 30 years ago. Easy to fool yourself when you don't understand the mindset of the time frame. Nobody was fretting that we're going 3-8 when it should be national championship potential. The Dolphins defined South Florida. The Canes were the fun Saturday warmup.

AWSI you are so right about hare for gators as it far supersedes anything for FSU. I agree it was fun attending but many heartbreaking losses. Chuck Foreman also was a terror covering punts. My favorite Cane player was Coy Hall a reserve QB who covered kickoffs because he wanted to play so badly and went berserk onetime when leveling a return man.

Ottis Anderson was the best RB Miami turned out in my opinion and a run he made on Greentreestill is the best run I’ve ever seen.
 
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