MEGA Mega Merged Stadium Thread.

[hoops156]

take a Xanax, seriously, love your rant though. Its these unhinged emotional filled tirades that make this site what it shouldn't be or was. Not sure. Anyway, if you read my post even half way coherently, you'd see that I said anything is for sale. But Nooooo, you run right along and just let errr rip! Hilarious.

My point about traffic was indicating I felt they'd need to get zoning and improvements in the process, that's going to require some good sized bribes perhaps.
Not sure how you lumped me in the "never stadium" group, I'm all for a different venue, I'm just asking questions, but I suppose attacking me was so much more satisfying to you and your friends you hang with instead of merely taking my post at face value.

Oh yes, forgot the Blimp thing: Networks always like having promotional consideration stuff and the advertisers like Goodyear certainly prefer doing things their way, but hey, I suppose the Goodyear Drone will have to suffice right? I am trying to provide possible problems and allow more reasoned persons to chime in, guess that doesn't work here.

isnt the owner of magic city a big time alum? i thought someone from there spoke at my grad. maybe it was another casino lol

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

This is like a hail mary that Chicago is trying to throw at them to keep them in downtown.

They're pitching on be able to use the stadium for multiple events etc... with transit being a key part.

If I'm the Chicago mayor etc. I'm telling the Bears that if they don't go for this incredibly lucrative opportunity and leave the city, that the town will be seeking another team to move to Chicago slash seek an expansion team. NY has two, LA has two... I push my chips in and see how willing the Bears are to split the city in half and be the team that is in the suburbs for the next 100 years. I'd specifically target the Lions, Bengals, Colts, Panthers, Titans and Jaguars.

 

[hoops156]

If I'm the Chicago mayor etc. I'm telling the Bears that if they don't go for this incredibly lucrative opportunity and leave the city, that the town will be seeking another team to move to Chicago slash seek an expansion team. NY has two, LA has two... I push my chips in and see how willing the Bears are to split the city in half and be the team that is in the suburbs for the next 100 years. I'd specifically target the Lions, Bengals, Colts, Panthers, Titans and Jaguars.

why would the bengals move? their owner is gonna keep them in cincy esp w a hometown kid as the franchise. Colts leaving INDY?!? LOL no shot esp since the NFL uses INDY for everything (combine every year). Carolina just got sold i believe and theyre not leaving. Titans are building a BRAND NEW STADIUM in Nashville. do you guys read the news? Jags thats the possibility bc who knows w Khan but i believe theyre making improvements to wahtever the **** they call that stadium now. they actually have a good fanbase. also, a large part of bears fans come from the burbs in chicago. the burbs move is actually easier. the soldier field grounds were horrendous for fans bc of the traffic and parking issues.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

take a Xanax, seriously, love your rant though. Its these unhinged emotional filled tirades that make this site what it shouldn't be or was. Not sure. Anyway, if you read my post even half way coherently, you'd see that I said anything is for sale. But Nooooo, you run right along and just let errr rip! Hilarious.

My point about traffic was indicating I felt they'd need to get zoning and improvements in the process, that's going to require some good sized bribes perhaps.
Not sure how you lumped me in the "never stadium" group, I'm all for a different venue, I'm just asking questions, but I suppose attacking me was so much more satisfying to you and your friends you hang with instead of merely taking my post at face value.

Oh yes, forgot the Blimp thing: Networks always like having promotional consideration stuff and the advertisers like Goodyear certainly prefer doing things their way, but hey, I suppose the Goodyear Drone will have to suffice right? I am trying to provide possible problems and allow more reasoned persons to chime in, guess that doesn't work here.

I'm not lumping YOU PERSONALLY with the "never stadium" crowd. I am also not sitting here with a Butch Davis/Pete Garcia 5x7 notecard that shows what every poster thinks about the stadium. Look, there are some "never stadium" types, and there are also people who are so pessimistic about the subject that it's hard to figure out where they stand. So apologies if anything came out strong.

Regardless, there is a generalized concept that what we need in the future has to be exactly what we've had in the past. But that might not be possible. We are not a land-grant public school. So we might not be able to tailgate like it's 1999 in the future.

I can agree with you on traffic. I'm just pointing out that Marlins Stadium holds 81 events per year, some on school nights. If you have a similarly-located venue that hosts 7 events per year (with comparable crowds to Marlins games) and mostly on Saturdays, I think that the situation is manageable.

As for the blimp, again, I'm just confused, which is why I made jokes. Honestly, with all those "string wires across the upper deck" TV cameras, I really think that the Goodyear Blimp is a thing of the past. I can't even remember the last time I looked up and saw the blimp going over a Miami game, or any game for that matter.

 

[Rellyrell]

Glad to hear you’ve overcome that and you’re now able to get to those things that add value to your life. Btw, right there with you, props to getting out of it, those things linger like a ****. Add water to the roots homie, never toxic poison.

Nothing but facts, my boy.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

isnt the owner of magic city a big time alum? i thought someone from there spoke at my grad. maybe it was another casino lol

I think that @rsa coral gables said that THAT family sold out already.

But with the Mas brothers developing the soccer facility just a few blocks north (and on the other side of 836), it just seems like it's very possible that we can both assemble the money AND work out any parking issues between these two parcels of land (Casino-area and Melreese).

There are fair and valid reasons for some to question the use of "public land". So if the alternative is to buy up commercial property, this is a great spot. Might cost a lot of cash and might require some political bribes, but it's super-close to UM and it has absolute GARBAGE on it now. Easily relocatable.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

why would the bengals move? their owner is gonna keep them in cincy esp w a hometown kid as the franchise. Colts leaving INDY?!? LOL no shot esp since the NFL uses INDY for everything (combine every year). Carolina just got sold i believe and theyre not leaving. Titans are building a BRAND NEW STADIUM in Nashville. do you guys read the news? Jags thats the possibility bc who knows w Khan but i believe theyre making improvements to wahtever the **** they call that stadium now. they actually have a good fanbase.

The Titans stadium deal isn't done. But it's close, so I get your point on them. And if god forbid it hits a stumbling block, then that makes them an even better candidate. But that's not important, you get my overall point. This isn't about the Titans. Many lower revenue teams would salivate over a move to Chicago.

No one thinks any team is a candidate to move until it happens.

Go look at the annual operating income for the teams I mentioned, and then compare it to what it would be for a franchise to play in Chicago with that stadium. Especially as the ONLY team suddenly IN the city. Now project the overall value of the team as a multiple of net. That's the answer to the "why" for every team I mentioned.

The short answer is each of those teams have billions of reasons to move to Chicago, the top 3 media market in America, and the largest with only one NFL team.

Especially if the city is not only receptive, but rolling out the red carpet. If the Bears want to bet that multiple owners who make a lot less than they do would turn down billions in perpetuity, then they could move. But if I'm the city, I'm doing everything I can to put the fear of god into them to make them see the risk of leaving.

Remember, for now the goal is to use this to get them to stay.

 

[canecrazy23]

This is like a hail mary that Chicago is trying to throw at them to keep them in downtown.

They're pitching on be able to use the stadium for multiple events etc... with transit being a key part.

Wow place is sick and if you skip to 3:29 there is a HOTTIE!!! LOL

 

[Rellyrell]

This is like a hail mary that Chicago is trying to throw at them to keep them in downtown.

They're pitching on be able to use the stadium for multiple events etc... with transit being a key part.

Imma keep real solid; this proposal is ****ing me off. As a Bears fan, sure this looks exciting; but, as a former resident w/ half my family living out there, this is some grade-A bull chit!

Mayor Lightfoot, who may arguably be the most incompetent Mayor of any major city, told the city of Chicago when it came to the violence & overcrowding of class rooms that there wasn’t enough funding to rectify these matters. Now all of a sudden u got mega billions to renovate a stadium to keep a sports team in tow?

FOH.

 

[DerpaDerp]

I can agree with you on traffic. I'm just pointing out that Marlins Stadium holds 81 events per year, some on school nights. If you have a similarly-located venue that hosts 7 events per year (with comparable crowds to Marlins games) and mostly on Saturdays, I think that the situation is manageable.

There's a garage at Marlin stadium yeah? Never been so...

If true, that is a major killer for tailgating which CFB is married to.

I would think that Marlins attendance is roughly 15-20k? avg game? They've never been competitive at the current venue, so traffic really isn't going to be that bad I would think.
55-60k presents a major issue and someone said a two lane road handling 20,000 cars is going to be a problem for the residents. Tropical still presents the best opportunity for inflow and out flow as it is right now. It could all change with improvements and variances....its rather complicated we likely agree.

 

[Canes2082]

Imma keep real solid; this proposal is ****ing me off. As a Bears fan, sure this looks exciting; but, as a former resident w/ half my family living out there, this is some grade-A bull chit!

Mayor Lightfoot, who may arguably be the most incompetent Mayor of any major city, told the city of Chicago when it came to the violence & overcrowding of class rooms that there wasn’t enough funding to rectify these matters. Now all of a sudden u got mega billions to renovate a stadium to keep a sports team in tow?

FOH.

Yeah I agree I have friends who live in Chicago and they are not surprised by this but angered

It's like " Oh look we found 2 Billion Dollars"

 

[Rellyrell]

Yeah I agree I have friends who live in Chicago and they are not surprised by this but angered

It's like " Oh look we found 2 Billion Dollars"

It ****ed me off when I saw this. The problems the city is experiencing don’t even need HALF of this.

I hate that chick soooooo much.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

There's a garage at Marlin stadium yeah? Never been so...

If true, that is a major killer for tailgating which CFB is married to.

I would think that Marlins attendance is roughly 15-20k? avg game? They've never been competitive at the current venue, so traffic really isn't going to be that bad I would think.
55-60k presents a major issue and someone said a two lane road handling 20,000 cars is going to be a problem for the residents. Tropical still presents the best opportunity for inflow and out flow as it is right now. It could all change with improvements and variances....its rather complicated we likely agree.

There are 4 garages at Marlins Stadium. What complicates issues is that all the cars are going to one main area, compared to when you have more garages that are spread out.

Tailgating is going to be an issue. But there are plenty of other ways to make it work. I've gone to several ACC games where it's not "all in one gigantic parking lot" like it is at Hard Rock. I'm not trying to be critical here, but we seem to have a bunch of people who think that the "Hard Rock tailgating experience" is the same at every other campus, and it's not.

As for the Marlins, they've been there for 10 years. The attendance is pretty bad now, but they've had some good runs previously. Regardless, the roadways are the same, and that area once handled 70K for football games, so it certainly hasn't gotten any worse than what we remember in the old days.

 

[Allabouttheu95]

It's a fair suggestion.

I pointed out (in the Ed Reed thread) that Bethune-Cookman has a joint-use stadium with Father Lopez High School.

I think the larger issue will not be the "stadium land" itself, it will be parking and traffic.

It’s joint use with Seabreeze and Mainland high school. Lopez campus is right across from municipal stadium but have their own smaller field On campus

 

[TheOriginalCane]

It’s joint use with Seabreeze and Mainland high school. Lopez campus is right across from municipal stadium but have their own smaller field On campus

Didn't know Mainland and Seabreeze used that site too. It didn't even exist when I was in high school and we played those high schools, I'm fairly certain we played on their campuses back then. Been a while, though.

 

[simplycanes]

It ****ed me off when I saw this. The problems the city is experiencing don’t even need HALF of this.

I hate that chick soooooo much.

Who, Mayor Beetlejuice?

 

[cocanes]

Who, Mayor Beetlejuice?

Who’s this guy?

 

[canecrazy23]

Who’s this guy?

 

[rsa coral gables]

 

[hurricaneman]

You have to provide the community with compensation if you're going to do something like this. Whether that's infrastructure, schools, whatever. Set up a trust for local schools to provide funding. Use a portion of stadium revenue to do it, seeing as how you're "burdening" the community with the stadium. If he actually wants to do this he should be working with the area to make it seem like a win-win. I don't think he'll ever be able to force it into existence. And he should start by being less aggressive on social media, and his son. I think all that stuff can easily be used as a talking point for politicians. Money for schools is a much harder thing to craft a rebuttal to.

I love what they're trying to do but I also want it to happen.