MEGA Mega Merged Stadium Thread.

[hoops156]

I wasn’t trying to be a smart ***, but you must’ve seen that there’s not very many parking spaces at the University. It’s hard enough finding a parking space to go to a baseball game or a basketball game that is on campus.

Good on you for thinking outside the box, but it’s not feasible.

attending a basketball or baseball game when you arent a student there anymore (i.e. no resident or commuter tag), it is the worst experience. that campus will never be able to handle football.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Fellas,

Please don't maul me. Be gentle.

I remember some crazy sounding idea of tearing a "public school" down to build a stadium.

Could Miami buy out or partner with a "private school", say for example, Gulliver Prep, and build a stadium on their already existing campus? I grew up in NJ. We have Seton Hall University and Seton Hall Prep, both private institutions and affiliated. What about Miami Prep or Gulliver/Miami Prep? Build the stadium on their campus for multi use? or completely buy out the school and expand the Miami campus to include that? Is it crazy? I am totally ignorant. Just looking at a map, and thought since the idea of tearing down a public school was brought up, thought it would be far more easier or less obstacles to deal with a private school, where I assume the public wouldn't have much say, because it doesn't involve public dollars? and it is not the notorious Coral Gables.

@OriginalCanesCanesCanes
@Rellyrell

Thoughts fellas?

It's a fair suggestion.

I pointed out (in the Ed Reed thread) that Bethune-Cookman has a joint-use stadium with Father Lopez High School.

I think the larger issue will not be the "stadium land" itself, it will be parking and traffic.

 

[rsa coral gables]

let´s put the guillver campus issue to rest. there is a less than zero percent chance of anything being built there. there is literally a two lane 30 mph street, it is a residential neighborhood and it is in pinecrest. @DTP said it, you want room for a stadium parking and amenities? Homestead or NW MIami Dade County and 25 miles from campus.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Never been on campus have you?

Since they have built more parking garages, I have not had any difficulty parking on-campus for evenings and weekends. I have parked in the Pavia Garage, I have parked down by the baseball field, and I've parked in the lots along San Amaro on Fridays when I have gone down to Hecht. I even parked behind Lambda Chi for the UM-GaTech women's volleyball game the night before the F$U game.

I think once we build the new garage next to the Football Ops Center, we will be in pretty good shape to be able to use, say, an entire parking garage (like the one by Mark Light) for event parking.

Just trying to think constructively about how we could park people and move people around.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Since they have built more parking garages, I have not had any difficulty parking on-campus for evenings and weekends. I have parked in the Pavia Garage, I have parked down by the baseball field, and I've parked in the lots along San Amaro on Fridays when I have gone down to Hecht. I even parked behind Lambda Chi for the UM-GaTech women's volleyball game the night before the F$U game.

I think once we build the new garage next to the Football Ops Center, we will be in pretty good shape to be able to use, say, an entire parking garage (like the one by Mark Light) for event parking.

Just trying to think constructively about how we could park people and move people around.

It’s always harder for me when it’s regionals for baseball, or FSU, or the turds, or evening weeknight basketball games. Granted, I try to get as close as possible. But it’s still not easy, at least for me it isn’t, even with newer garages, but the main point is multiply that times five or 10 and trying to find parking for a football crowd. I just don’t see it on campus.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

It’s always harder for me when it’s regionals for baseball, or FSU, or the turds, or evening weeknight basketball games. Granted, I try to get as close as possible. But it’s still not easy, at least for me it isn’t, even with newer garages, but the main point is multiply that times five or 10 and trying to find parking for a football crowd. I just don’t see it on campus.

I agree with you, that corner of campus is pretty tight (and always has been, if we're being honest). You are right. I've always wondered if we could work with Dade Couny to build parking garages on the MetroRail easement, kinda like what they have down in Kendall.

 

[JD08]

Last year on baseball opening day, there was also a basketball game and there were plenty of spots to be had in the Ponce de Leon Garage. The Metrorail parking was filled, but people kept trying.

 

[Canes2082]

i went to the ND game at ND and the one at soldier field. soldier field was a **** bag place too but at least it was in grant park i believe and had the field museum and everything close by.

Have you seen the proposed upgrade they want to do to Solider Field to keep the Bears playing in Chicago? Its like 2.2 Billion...

I'll see if I can find a video that I saw. Pretty crazy

 

[hoops156]

Have you seen the proposed upgrade they want to do to Solider Field to keep the Bears playing in Chicago? Its like 2.2 Billion...

I'll see if I can find a video that I saw. Pretty crazy

i think i saw it but i thought bears made a deal to move to the burbs. i know the traffic is a mess for drivers to get to bears games (similar for drivers to get to heat games due to the inlets and outlets)

 

[hoops156]

It's a fair suggestion.

I pointed out (in the Ed Reed thread) that Bethune-Cookman has a joint-use stadium with Father Lopez High School.

I think the larger issue will not be the "stadium land" itself, it will be parking and traffic.

tbh, id ratehr stay at HRS than have a joint use with a HS. for me, its tropical park and have a person fund the entire thing as the option close to campus or find a plot of land somewhere else in dade that isnt homestead lol.

 

[EudocimusAlbus]

do you camp there? on the beach? campgrounds? nothing like camping to disconnect from the world for a while. we camp in the bahamas and it is priceless

Campgrounds, very primitive. You pack in food for the duration of your stay, can’t start a fire neither so heavy on canned variety of food. Take a ferry from Ventura. There are endless caves you can kayak into as well as kelp forests you can snorkel/scuba, and endless hiking trails. One of my best trips to date.

 

[EudocimusAlbus]

Actually on my bucket list….




Not winter, though. Lol

Haha, good stuff. Lived in LA for years and never visited then moved east and regretted it. Some west coast work came my way the following year and decided to finally do camp out there. I plan to head back someday soon. So get it on it homie!

 

[Rellyrell]

Haha, good stuff. Lived in LA for years and never visited then moved east and regretted it. Some west coast work came my way the following year and decided to finally do camp out there. I plan to head back someday soon. So get it on it homie!

Man, honestly…there’s a lot on my bucket list that never got fulfilled due to being in a toxic relation for yrs. CA offers a lot of majestic spots to just free ur mind. Fortunately, I was able to do some of those things, but there’s way more that I wasn’t, which I will.

 

[rsa coral gables]

Campgrounds, very primitive. You pack in food for the duration of your stay, can’t start a fire neither so heavy on canned variety of food. Take a ferry from Ventura. There are endless caves you can kayak into as well as kelp forests you can snorkel/scuba, and endless hiking trails. One of my best trips to date.

that's awesome.

 

[EudocimusAlbus]

Man, honestly…there’s a lot on my bucket list that never got fulfilled due to being in a toxic relation for yrs. CA offers a lot of majestic spots to just free ur mind. Fortunately, I was able to do some of those things, but there’s way more that I wasn’t, which I will.

Glad to hear you’ve overcome that and you’re now able to get to those things that add value to your life. Btw, right there with you, props to getting out of it, those things linger like a ****. Add water to the roots homie, never toxic poison.

 

[Canes2082]

i think i saw it but i thought bears made a deal to move to the burbs. i know the traffic is a mess for drivers to get to bears games (similar for drivers to get to heat games due to the inlets and outlets)

This is like a hail mary that Chicago is trying to throw at them to keep them in downtown.

They're pitching on be able to use the stadium for multiple events etc... with transit being a key part.

 

[Highline17]

I wasn’t trying to be a smart ***, but you must’ve seen that there’s not very many parking spaces at the University. It’s hard enough finding a parking space to go to a baseball game or a basketball game that is on campus.

Good on you for thinking outside the box, but it’s not feasible.

Adding to your point, a few could join, but the shuttle line just for students rn can be long asf, it can run an hour plus for big games like FSU. Adding the gen pop to that is unreastic

 

[TheOriginalCane]

tbh, id ratehr stay at HRS than have a joint use with a HS. for me, its tropical park and have a person fund the entire thing as the option close to campus or find a plot of land somewhere else in dade that isnt homestead lol.

I agree, and there's a lot of practical considerations too.

Outside of some high school well outside the city limits (as Father Lopez is compared to Daytona Beach), no urban public (or private) high school would have enough land to make this work.

So we just break it down into categories.

Money - no matter where you go, a lot of money will be required. So outside of "let's buy up all of Miracle Mile", let's just agree that any location will be expensive, but NOT cost-prohibitive (where there's a will, there's a pay).

Land - no matter where you go, we will never have "the original Joe Robbie Stadium" layout. That land acquisition happened IN THE 1980s. So from here on out, the "land parcel" is going to have to resemble other urban stadium projects. SoFi Stadium. Mercedes Benz Stadium. Does that mean we might not get to park our cars in the middle of two spots and spread out to tailgate? Yes, it does. Will we need to get creative? Sure. Might we go back to the "old times" that people rave about, when we parked in people's yards? Why the **** not?

Location/traffic - no matter where you go, we will never be close to "intersetion of 95 and Turnpike and 75 and Turnpike extension". Which, shockingly, never seems to make the traffic any better. So anywhere we go, we are going to have complaints and issues. You just have to do what EVERY OTHER EVENT IN EVERY OTHER CITY DOES, figure out a great plan, hire a bunch of cops, and use every resource possible.

So again, for the millionth time, here is your "non-public-park/almost-completely-commercial-land-that-can-be-purchased" stadium site.

42 acre shopping center. 35 acre failing casino with a (now-outlawed) greyhound track. An additional 18 acres of commercial acreage across the street that could be purchased.

Easy access to expressways. Easy access to surface roads. 4 miles from UM campus.

 

[DerpaDerp]

What?

The only reason we lost the Orange Bowl site was because of corrupt David Samson and the Marlins. Not because it was in Little Havana or downtown. Also, if you just look at a map, the site is even CLOSER to the UM campus than the Orange Bowl was. All we'd have to do is run shuttles up LeJeune from the campus, we wouldn't even have to put students on the MetroRail like we used to do.

As for Magic City Casino...**** MAGIC CITY CASINO. Why should we care about what they might and might not want? I can't believe you are making an argument based on cheap people trying to park in a dirt-mall shopping center parking lot to walk across NW 7th Street to a cut-rate dog-track casino. Besides, you could easily work out a deal to let Magic City Casino lease some of the parking SINCE WE'D ONLY BE USING ALL THE PARKING 7 TIMES PER YEAR FOR 8-10 HOURS PER EVENT.

Not sure the property is for sale? EVERYTHING is for sale. And, again, it would NOT require some of the expenditures that Tropical or other sites would need. It would be served by the LeJeune and Douglas exits off of the 836, so it would not require major roadway improvements.

Traffic in and out would be a nightmare? THIS RIGHT HERE is the proof that we have some degenerate "never-stadium" dweebs who will find any and every excuse to fight against a stadium. You IGNORE the fact that it is right off of the 836 and has major access to both expressway-type roads (95, 836, 112, 826) AND some of the largest surface roads in Dade.

But you're talking about whether we'd have "the blimp" at a game. When is the last time the Goodyear Blimp was flying over a University of Miami home game? What the ****, is this 1973 or 2023?

take a Xanax, seriously, love your rant though. Its these unhinged emotional filled tirades that make this site what it shouldn't be or was. Not sure. Anyway, if you read my post even half way coherently, you'd see that I said anything is for sale. But Nooooo, you run right along and just let errr rip! Hilarious.

My point about traffic was indicating I felt they'd need to get zoning and improvements in the process, that's going to require some good sized bribes perhaps.
Not sure how you lumped me in the "never stadium" group, I'm all for a different venue, I'm just asking questions, but I suppose attacking me was so much more satisfying to you and your friends you hang with instead of merely taking my post at face value.

Oh yes, forgot the Blimp thing: Networks always like having promotional consideration stuff and the advertisers like Goodyear certainly prefer doing things their way, but hey, I suppose the Goodyear Drone will have to suffice right? I am trying to provide possible problems and allow more reasoned persons to chime in, guess that doesn't work here.

 

[hoops156]

I agree, and there's a lot of practical considerations too.

Outside of some high school well outside the city limits (as Father Lopez is compared to Daytona Beach), no urban public (or private) high school would have enough land to make this work.

So we just break it down into categories.

Money - no matter where you go, a lot of money will be required. So outside of "let's buy up all of Miracle Mile", let's just agree that any location will be expensive, but NOT cost-prohibitive (where there's a will, there's a pay).

Land - no matter where you go, we will never have "the original Joe Robbie Stadium" layout. That land acquisition happened IN THE 1980s. So from here on out, the "land parcel" is going to have to resemble other urban stadium projects. SoFi Stadium. Mercedes Benz Stadium. Does that mean we might not get to park our cars in the middle of two spots and spread out to tailgate? Yes, it does. Will we need to get creative? Sure. Might we go back to the "old times" that people rave about, when we parked in people's yards? Why the **** not?

Location/traffic - no matter where you go, we will never be close to "intersetion of 95 and Turnpike and 75 and Turnpike extension". Which, shockingly, never seems to make the traffic any better. So anywhere we go, we are going to have complaints and issues. You just have to do what EVERY OTHER EVENT IN EVERY OTHER CITY DOES, figure out a great plan, hire a bunch of cops, and use every resource possible.

So again, for the millionth time, here is your "non-public-park/almost-completely-commercial-land-that-can-be-purchased" stadium site.

42 acre shopping center. 35 acre failing casino with a (now-outlawed) greyhound track. An additional 18 acres of commercial acreage across the street that could be purchased.

Easy access to expressways. Easy access to surface roads. 4 miles from UM campus.



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as long as its not the heat arena scenario where it is brutal to get in and out now im good.