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Mannn… first off Monday Morning Quarterbacking is easy, I’ll start with that.

He says we were easy to figure out after game 3 and 4. We gave up 0 points game 3 and 15 points game 4. Wonder if he was off in guessing which games he identified as noticing the problems?

Either way games 5, 6 and 7 we gave up 117 points total after only giving up 41 the first 3. Got into the meat of our schedule but like I pointed out in another thread VT, Cal and UL weren’t doing to other teams with a pulse what they did to us.

Here’s where I split from MC… he didn’t think making a change in season would have been beneficial. The writing was on the wall after Louisville. I’ll go to my grave believing what I felt after that game. Guidry needed to be stripped of playing calling duties and if he couldn’t handle that then part ways mid season anyway. I have a hard time believing giving DC duties to Jason Taylor or Co-DC between him and D Nic would have gotten us worse results.

Ship had sailed but MC allowing Guidry to steer the defense in the wrong direction and he saw it too while having what he acknowledged as well as having a “generational offense” doesn’t set well with me.
 
FuriousStyles said:
Mannn… first off Monday Morning Quarterbacking is easy, I’ll start with that.

He says we were easy to figure out after game 3 and 4. We gave up 0 points game 3 and 15 points game 4. Wonder if he was off in guessing which games he identified as noticing the problems?

Either way games 5, 6 and 7 we gave up 117 points total after only giving up 41 the first 3. Got into the meat of our schedule but like I pointed out in another thread VT, Cal and UL weren’t doing to other teams with a pulse what they did to us.

Here’s where I split from MC… he didn’t think making a change in season would have been beneficial. The writing was on the wall after Louisville. I’ll go to my grave believing what I felt after that game. Guidry needed to be stripped of playing calling duties and if he couldn’t handle that then part ways mid season anyway. I have a hard time believing giving DC duties to Jason Taylor or Co-DC between him and D Nic would have gotten us worse results.

Ship had sailed but MC allowing Guidry to steer the defense in the wrong direction and he saw it too while having what he acknowledged as well as having a “generational offense” doesn’t set well with me.
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Huh? He said they were easy to figure out "after game 3 or 4" ... after 4 is when the defense went splat.

I think he was right on the money. Defense was always called the same, so it makes sense that any decent OC, once they had enough tape could figure out how to slice us up.
 
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FuriousStyles said:
Mannn… first off Monday Morning Quarterbacking is easy, I’ll start with that.

He says we were easy to figure out after game 3 and 4. We gave up 0 points game 3 and 15 points game 4. Wonder if he was off in guessing which games he identified as noticing the problems?

Either way games 5, 6 and 7 we gave up 117 points total after only giving up 41 the first 3. Got into the meat of our schedule but like I pointed out in another thread VT, Cal and UL weren’t doing to other teams with a pulse what they did to us.

Here’s where I split from MC… he didn’t think making a change in season would have been beneficial. The writing was on the wall after Louisville. I’ll go to my grave believing what I felt after that game. Guidry needed to be stripped of playing calling duties and if he couldn’t handle that then part ways mid season anyway. I have a hard time believing giving DC duties to Jason Taylor or Co-DC between him and D Nic would have gotten us worse results.

Ship had sailed but MC allowing Guidry to steer the defense in the wrong direction and he saw it too while having what he acknowledged as well as having a “generational offense” doesn’t set well with me.
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Hidden in his response was the lack of personnel to make meaningful change. That’s not an acceptable excuse, but can see dramatic offseason changes in back end of defense - bodies gone and crazy number brought in.
 
FuriousStyles said:
Mannn… first off Monday Morning Quarterbacking is easy, I’ll start with that.

He says we were easy to figure out after game 3 and 4. We gave up 0 points game 3 and 15 points game 4. Wonder if he was off in guessing which games he identified as noticing the problems?

Either way games 5, 6 and 7 we gave up 117 points total after only giving up 41 the first 3. Got into the meat of our schedule but like I pointed out in another thread VT, Cal and UL weren’t doing to other teams with a pulse what they did to us.

Here’s where I split from MC… he didn’t think making a change in season would have been beneficial. The writing was on the wall after Louisville. I’ll go to my grave believing what I felt after that game. Guidry needed to be stripped of playing calling duties and if he couldn’t handle that then part ways mid season anyway. I have a hard time believing giving DC duties to Jason Taylor or Co-DC between him and D Nic would have gotten us worse results.

Ship had sailed but MC allowing Guidry to steer the defense in the wrong direction and he saw it too while having what he acknowledged as well as having a “generational offense” doesn’t set well with me.
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I agree man id say it happened twice with Gatass but last year it was to much on the line. Get rid of guidry beat GT or Syracuse and its a whole different ball game!! Tf he mean wouldnt have been beneficial smh
 
FuriousStyles said:
Mannn… first off Monday Morning Quarterbacking is easy, I’ll start with that.

He says we were easy to figure out after game 3 and 4. We gave up 0 points game 3 and 15 points game 4. Wonder if he was off in guessing which games he identified as noticing the problems?

Either way games 5, 6 and 7 we gave up 117 points total after only giving up 41 the first 3. Got into the meat of our schedule but like I pointed out in another thread VT, Cal and UL weren’t doing to other teams with a pulse what they did to us.

Here’s where I split from MC… he didn’t think making a change in season would have been beneficial. The writing was on the wall after Louisville. I’ll go to my grave believing what I felt after that game. Guidry needed to be stripped of playing calling duties and if he couldn’t handle that then part ways mid season anyway. I have a hard time believing giving DC duties to Jason Taylor or Co-DC between him and D Nic would have gotten us worse results.

Ship had sailed but MC allowing Guidry to steer the defense in the wrong direction and he saw it too while having what he acknowledged as well as having a “generational offense” doesn’t set well with me.
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One of the most telling stats when I was looking at Heatherman was PPG and yards against versus the average of what those teams normally put up

Minnesota almost always held the opponent to under their average, even the best teams they played

Our defense was definitely the opposite

You can skew numbers in a lot of ways but it’s hard to get away from that one
 
JHallCanes said:
One of the most telling stats when I was looking at Heatherman was PPG and yards against versus the average of what those teams normally put up

Minnesota almost always held the opponent to under their average, even the best teams they played

Our defense was definitely the opposite

You can skew numbers in a lot of ways but it’s hard to get away from that one
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I noticed that too. Took a big deep breath when I read it. Feels like the last time we had that was early 2000s.
 
Cane_J15 said:
I agree man id say it happened twice with Gatass but last year it was to much on the line. Get rid of guidry beat GT or Syracuse and its a whole different ball game!! Tf he mean wouldnt have been beneficial smh
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For the life of me (and I was there) I could't understand why we go up 21 at Syracuse with a literal playoff berth on the line and don't play a majority shell coverage the rest of the game. Let Syracuse drive patiently (possibly force the QB into mistakes) while playing catchup and tighten up in the redzone. Upon rewatch, the safeties were probably so bad, it didn't matter.
 
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CF3 said:
For the life of me (and I was there) I could't understand why we go up 21 at Syracuse with a literal playoff berth on the line and don't play a majority shell coverage the rest of the game. Let Syracuse drive patiently (possibly force the QB into mistakes) while playing catchup and tighten up in the redzone. Upon rewatch, the safeties were probably so bad, it didn't matter.
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Also Kyle McCord made very, very few mistakes. He was by far the best QB we faced all season.
 
bacane said:
Hidden in his response was the lack of personnel to make meaningful change. That’s not an acceptable excuse, but can see dramatic offseason changes in back end of defense - bodies gone and crazy number brought in.
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I heard him say that and I don’t disagree but them raggedy *** twist and stunts up from were trash… again Mario pointed to communication and being out of place as major issues. Our schedule wasn’t murders row and even with injuries we should’ve competed better on defense at the end of the season
 
CF3 said:
For the life of me (and I was there) I could't understand why we go up 21 at Syracuse with a literal playoff berth on the line and don't play a majority shell coverage the rest of the game. Let Syracuse drive patiently (possibly force the QB into mistakes) while playing catchup and tighten up in the redzone. Upon rewatch, the safeties were probably so bad, it didn't matter.
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Which ultimately falls on Mario! He claims all the time about adding talent and roster management. I love the dude think he gets us where were trying to be but the situation were talking about and Gattis. Its like he hasnt cared about the little things his ultimate goal is we will know and he will know when the team is right cause they will dominate there way through any situation an no one will be able to stop it. And i get the big picture but u gotta fight for your team in those situations! Just My opinion
 
canecountry3 said:
Huh? He said they were easy to figure out "after game 3 or 4" ... after 4 is when the defense went splat.

I think he was right on the money. Defense was always called the same, so it makes sense that any decent OC, once they had enough tape could figure out how to slice us up.
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I agree.

I may have missed him saying it somewhere else, but for me, it was cathartic as **** to hear him say that it was painful as **** to have a generational offense with Cam while losing the defense as bad as we did.

I’m not sure any adjectives can ever possibly sum up how atrocious that defense was, but it was good to hear him freakin say it for some reason.
 
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