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Mario cast a pretty wide net for OC

From the TVD article in the other thread:

“Entering the 2022 campaign, he was viewed as one of the best quarterbacks in the country and, because of that, Miami had big expectations in Mario Cristobal’s debut season.

But things never quite clicked… Miami … was on the wrong end of blowouts in 3 of the final 4 weeks of the season.”

THIS is why posters are not happy.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Tell us, specifically, why you don’t think it’s impressive.
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It's just a play that ends up overloading for (offense) the basic sweep left.

Did he magically scheme a player who teleports onto the field? Maybe base jumped from rhe upper deck?

The OLB and DE get their assignments crossed for a split second and ball carrier outruns them. If OLB trusts DE to take inside player, ball carrier probably tackeled for loss.

Yawn.

Seems similar to "exotic blitz packages".

If people thought it was some amazing scheme play, good for them!

My take and their take can exist together.

Go Canes.
 
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Haven't read through the whole thread but am encouraged that Mario also went outside his perceived comfort zone offense wise to interview candidates and eventually hire one of them.
 
Caned Peach said:
Haven't read through the whole thread but am encouraged that Mario also went outside his perceived comfort zone offense wise to interview candidates and eventually hire one of them.
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Do yourself a favor and go back and read the whole thread, specifically the last 3-4 pages. There were some very good discussions/posts from great folks.
 
SinisterCane said:
Fans do need to do their part, however when they believe in something that is real then you get the Miami vs ND atmosphere at Hard Rock….mane’ **** was legendary. Last years 5-7 recor threw cold water on a lot of fan’s potential dreams under Mario.

I was against Miami hiring Mario and so far I’ve been proven right……5-7, high staff turnover in his 1st year as HC, he has failed in year one. Let’s see what Tomorrow brings with wins and losses moving forward
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Oh, **** the **** off with your backpedaling bullcrap. FOR YEARS, you have done nothing but spew negativity and hatred towards the team, the coaches, the players, and the actions taken (some successful, some not), and now you are going to justify all of your bile with "But Notre Dame, Bro"?

**** off. You are the absolute worst. You just are. You lie about things, you spin ridiculous reasons for your hatred, but you are just a toxic miserable person at your core. Nothing is going to satisfy you. No amount of wins will ever cause you to admit you were wrong.

Instead, you keep doubling down. "I was against Miami hiring Mario and so far I've been proven right". No. No no no no no. You haven't been proven ANYTHING except impatient.

You're not a fan of Miami, you're not a fan of the Hurricanes. You're a fan of YOURSELF and "being proven right". You are the same miserable person who spreads his misery on the boards and into the minds of the players and their families because you can't shut up for 3 hours at a time and just root for the team win or lose. You're that ******* fan that I've sat near multiple times who keeps drunkenly complaining about how much better things were 30 years ago.

I can't believe this needs to be repeated for the millionth time, but it's not the "criticism" itself, it's how you express it, repeatedly, repetitively, with a toxic hatred that borders on sociopathic. There are plenty of posters who express "criticism", but are able to do so in straightforward terms that do not include constant insults towards coaches and players or "but I was right" boasts.

You have consistently made this about you. You think that buying a UM t-shirt gives you some right to express every dark thought you have, no matter how it impacts others. You can't even begin to comprehend what Dee is saying, you just have to bleat out "Notre Dame" and "I was proven right" to act as if you have something to contribute. But you don't.

Dee knows who I am, or can easily figure it out from mutual friends like @SWFLHurricane . I enrolled at UM in 1986 and I've been paying my money and showing up, home and away, ever since. I tutored UM athletes as an undergrad, I've supported my alma mater in every way that I can, and whether you want to admit it or not, I get just as angry as you do when we don't win. ****, I would have been arrested twice this year (aTm and F$U) if I just did what I felt like doing to opposing fans who acted like ********. But unlike you, I don't set my worst impulses free.

This isn't about the Miami Hurricanes. This is about you and your toxicity. And you're not the only one. But you and your crowd who choose to idolize and act like wrestling heels are just mentally immature people trying to live your lives vicariously, and you are angry that the Miami Hurricanes are not giving you the chance to put on your UM t-shirt and walk around proudly, so that you can act like you are a part of something you had nothing to do with.

Unlike you, I represent UM every single day. Just Monday night, in Atlanta, a guy in a grocery story said "It's all about the U" to me, just because I was wearing a black and gray adidas polo with ONE small U logo on it. I proceeded to talk with the guy for 20 minutes, he went to Miami Central High, and his son had played football with Phillip Dorsett. We were talking about his family, and the old spots, and the old games, and I'd imagine that it helped him feel a bit of reconnection to his old hometown even though he lives hundreds of miles away now.

Why can't you create some of that positivity in your own life? I had a nice conversation with a friendly UM fan that wasn't based on whether we went 5-7 last year. Just because I love my alma mater, and I'm always happy to represent the U.

Grow up. Stop making everything about yourself and your bitter feelings.
 
SinisterCane said:
You were banned from a thread, hit the ignore button
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You're a liar, just delete your account and make everyone happy. You are actually encouraging ME to ignore YOU because you can't handle the criticism that you are only too happy to hand out to others who don't post on this board.

I, along with hundreds of other CIS posters, have been temporarily banned from a thread prior to reinstatement. You didn't say "thread-banned", you said banned. In fact, you said that I "just came back from being banned". And you were wrong. Which you refuse to admit, just like you refuse to admit that you are wrong on any other subject.

You are just toxic and hateful and self-centered.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
You're a liar, just delete your account and make everyone happy. You are actually encouraging ME to ignore YOU because you can't handle the criticism that you are only too happy to hand out to others who don't post on this board.

I, along with hundreds of other CIS posters, have been temporarily banned from a thread prior to reinstatement. You didn't say "thread-banned", you said banned. In fact, you said that I "just came back from being banned". And you were wrong. Which you refuse to admit, just like you refuse to admit that you are wrong on any other subject.

You are just toxic and hateful and self-centered.
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You were banned from the Josh Gattis (Before it’s deleted) thread

Hit the ignore button 🤣
 
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Mother****a unless you respond to me I don't even read, hit the emoji button or quote any of your posts and after our last encounter I’ve ignored your existence up until now

You called me a ****** and I told you to drink bleach and ******’ die - which I’m sadden your still here. Nothing good is ever gonna come between us. Sooooo moving forward if you ever respond to any of my posts, I’m simply gonna put you on ignore. Hit the ignore butto, The end.
 
SinisterCane said:
Mother****a unless you respond to me I don't even read, hit the emoji button or quote any of your posts and after our last encounter I’ve ignored your existence up until now

You called me a ****** and I told you to drink bleach and ******’ die - which I’m sadden your still here. Nothing good is ever gonna come between us. Sooooo moving forward if you ever respond to any of my posts, I’m simply gonna put you on ignore. Hit the ignore butto, The end.
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So you are crying over being called a ******? You have got to be kidding.

It is pretty funny that you claim not to read my posts, but you just KNEW that I was "banned" (I was not). Hilarious.

Please stop lying about me.

By the way, if you've used "drink bleach" on multiple occasions (2018, 2021, 2023), then why are YOU still here?

Seems like you've self-deported yourself to Purgatory...


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SinisterCane said:
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So you are equating "******" with a "drink bleach and die" threat? Seems on-brand for you. You think I should be banned for saying "******"?

Funny stuff.

So now you're agreeing that I was not, in fact, banned. That I did not "just come back from being banned". That I was, in fact, reinstated on that thread later.

You are also ignoring the reason that MULTIPLE PEOPLE went after you was because you are such a toxic and hateful porster.

You seriously need to look in the mirror. You're not a good or positive person.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Everyone knows this. But why do people like you feel the need to repeat it about 1000 times a day? Just curious.
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I’ve only posted about 8 times since Sunday.

Why do I bring it up?
- To prove the point that it was ok to do it under past regimes but very frowned upon now by some
- It was the worst season in an extremely long time and the concept of a long rebuild vs a Duke who beat us soundly doesn’t sit well with many…
- We don’t celebrate offseason championships I’ve read here, we prove it on the field…

I expect more out of Mario. Mario expects better, I think we can guarantee that. Most people, including myself, aren’t rooting against him. I want Miami to be highly successful and it would be ******* awesome for a Miami champion to do it.
 
423Hurricane said:
I think he’s got a much better perspective and insight than most anybody on this site. I won’t speak for him, but he explained a few posts above why he stopped posting or replying to certain posts.
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I do not dispute his perspective or value and there is no evidence that I ever have. But I do not agree with his assessment and I watched Herbert for multiple years, under multiple offensive schemes, in both college and the pros. My original, and continuing contention, is that he did not progress under the Mario offense. Now we can fight about what progression is or should be, and he obviously grew and developed as most do as they age, but I don't think anyone truly argues that Mario got anywhere close to maximizing the college level Herbert. Herbert's depth of target and completion percentage both dropped. That is quite unusual, in fact offenses usually reduce depth of target attempt and get an increase in both completion percentage and QB rating (see Can Newton at Carolina).

Brooklynn disagrees. He made what he termed a statistical argument, then refused to recognize statistics that did not support that argument. He even provided stats from 1983-84 Bernie at Miami and 2017 plus Herbert at Miami. Really, 30+ years apart, that's apples to apples? Does anyone think the game is the same? Then, clearly, Brooklynn got mad.

If your rationale is that I cannot disagree with a person, because of who he might be, then that is your rationale. It does not make it my reality.

This all started with a discussion of Mario's offensive history, particularly QB development. Simply put, QB recruiting and NFL drafting of those QBs will tell us what Mario brings to the table in this regard. Herbert was a gift. He was not even a Mario recruit; Mario inherited him in a pre Portal world. What has Mario done otherwise to attract and develop the position? Again, time will tell.
 
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rustywalkedaway said:
I do not dispute his perspective or value and there is no evidence that I ever have. But I do not agree with his assessment and I watched Herbert for multiple years, under multiple offensive schemes, in both college and the pros. My original, and continuing contention, is that he did not progress under the Mario offense. Now we can fight about what progression is or should be, and he obviously grew and developed as most do as they age, but I don't think anyone truly argues that Mario got anywhere close to maximizing the college level Herbert. Herbert's depth of target and completion percentage both dropped. That is quite unusual, in fact offenses usually reduce depth of target attempt and get an increase in both completion percentage and QB rating (see Can Newton at Carolina).

Brooklynn disagrees. He made what he termed a statistical argument, then refused to recognize statistics that did not support that argument. He even provided stats from 1983-84 Bernie at Miami and 2017 plus Herbert at Miami. Really, 30+ years apart, that's apples to apples? Then, clearly, he got mad.

If your rationale is that I cannot disagree with a person, because of who he might be, then that is your rationale. It does not make it my reality.

This all started with a discussion of Mario's offensive history, particularly QB development. Simply put, QB recruiting and NFL drafting of those QBs will tell us what he brings to the table. Herbert was a gift. He was going to Oregon, period. What has Mario done otherwise to attract and develop the position? Again, time will tell.
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My rationale is certainly not that anyone can’t debate or disagree with anyone else. The only point I was trying to convey is that Dee has been there and done that at the highest levels therefore what he sees is usually at a higher level than most.

As the old saying goes “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” and in this instance, you don’t see eye to eye with him and that’s OK. I agree 100% that time will tell.
 
rustywalkedaway said:
I do not dispute his perspective or value and there is no evidence that I ever have. But I do not agree with his assessment and I watched Herbert for multiple years, under multiple offensive schemes, in both college and the pros. My original, and continuing contention, is that he did not progress under the Mario offense. Now we can fight about what progression is or should be, and he obviously grew and developed as most do as they age, but I don't think anyone truly argues that Mario got anywhere close to maximizing the college level Herbert. Herbert's depth of target and completion percentage both dropped. That is quite unusual, in fact offenses usually reduce depth of target attempt and get an increase in both completion percentage and QB rating (see Can Newton at Carolina).

Brooklynn disagrees. He made what he termed a statistical argument, then refused to recognize statistics that did not support that argument. He even provided stats from 1983-84 Bernie at Miami and 2017 plus Herbert at Miami. Really, 30+ years apart, that's apples to apples? Does anyone think the game is the same? Then, clearly, Brooklynn got mad.

If your rationale is that I cannot disagree with a person, because of who he might be, then that is your rationale. It does not make it my reality.

This all started with a discussion of Mario's offensive history, particularly QB development. Simply put, QB recruiting and NFL drafting of those QBs will tell us what Mario brings to the table in this regard. Herbert was a gift. He was not even a Mario recruit; Mario inherited him in a pre Portal world. What has Mario done otherwise to attract and develop the position? Again, time will tell.
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Why are you still talking about this bruh? Sorry to disappoint you but nah you didn't get me mad. Only thing I ever get is annoyed or disappointed on here. You're still not speaking on reality by the way. You pick and choose what you speak on & numbers are numbers regardless. It's not relevant when they were made.feel free to go do your own research to state your point. But still talking about this just isn't necessary.
 
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