Manny vs Bronco: Fball Culture/Environment

TyWebb

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So Manny has Us looking like a bunch of fruitcakes marching in a rainbow parade for Caneswalk and Bronco ...

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...nco-mendenhall-built-unlikely-winner-virginia

Mendenhall painstakingly researched all the best practices on human performance and human development, and all the most powerful predictors for growth and progress to create value systems within his program to promote adequate growth.

Mendenhall despises the college football gear culture, one that showers players with as much swag as possible on Day 1. To him, any gear is earned, not expected, so he created a color-coordinated player rating system based on the color of workout shirts players would be given during seven-week cycles, depending on how they performed in various lifts, agility, jumping and conditioning drills. Mendenhall based the system on the martial arts belt scale and every player would begin with a plain white shirt, with the goal of jumping to gray, orange, blue, and finally different levels of black.

White: Below average
Gray: Average
Orange: Decent
Blue: Might be stud
Black: You're a badass

To graduate from colors, players have to meet certain numbers during their workouts, but even after that, they're sent on a "rite of passage" that features different weight packs to be worn through stadium steps and "mountains to climb" before they can grab their new color.

"It's amazing what a T-shirt means once they've done all that," Mendenhall said. "It's a big deal."

The color scheme is a transparent way of showing players exactly where they -- and the team -- stand and coaches design their schemes and strategies to leverage the colors.

"If our entire team is in gray, which is average, that doesn't indicate a healthy or dominant program," Mendenhall said.

"They know every day when they put on their gear what color they are, whether they're an average performer -- which would be a Group of 5 level."
 
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I don’t completely buy into the whole colors thing for workout numbers, but this program would benefit from hiring a hard nose no nonsense guy. We’ve had too many “Miami guys” and rah rah, all talk coaches. It’s time for a reset
 
My personal irony is that when the three hires happened I had them ranked: 1) CMR, 2) Fuente, 3) Bronco. Jesus was I wrong!
I had the same assessment. Then you heard how Richt was dropping weight himself and had a new energy. Then it took about a year and a half for the bottom to fall out.

Fuente took 3 years.
 
My personal irony is that when the three hires happened I had them ranked: 1) CMR, 2) Fuente, 3) Bronco. Jesus was I wrong!

I’m still not that upset with Richt as others are. We won 9 games and then won 10 games. Malik Rosier was horrific, and literally we could have won 10-11 games last season if Richt had a plan in place recruiting wise after Kaaya left.

2018 will forever be a year of what if. We wasted that defense.

Fuente seemed Halfway decent at the time especially heading to a VT that has owned the coastal more than it has not.

Mendenhall seems like a disciplinarian, wonder if any of his family were military folks. He definitely carries himself differently and his team reflects that. UVA doesn’t recruit well enough to become world beaters therefore I still think his ceiling is limited there. 8-9 wins per year is amazing at a school like UVA.
 
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Bronco is a good coach but let’s not go overboard. Let’s see what sort of PEAK success he can achieve. His teams have gotten better every year at UVA but there was no way to go but up after going 2-10.

Honest question: if manny went 2-10, then 6-7, then 8-5, and then in year four was 4-1... would you be happy with that?
 
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I’m still not that upset with Richt as others are. We won 9 games and then won 10 games. Malik Rosier was horrific, and literally we could have won 10-11 games last season if Richt had a plan in place recruiting wise after Kaaya left.

2018 will forever be a year of what if. We wasted that defense.

Fuente seemed Halfway decent at the time especially heading to a VT that has owned the coastal more than it has not.

Mendenhall seems like a disciplinarian, wonder if any of his family were military folks. He definitely carries himself differently and his team reflects that. UVA doesn’t recruit well enough to become world beaters therefore I still think his ceiling is limited there. 8-9 wins per year is amazing at a school like UVA.
I'm not upset about CMR's hire at all myself. I couldn't have been happier with the hire at the time. And when we whipped UNC and CMR smirked at that douchebag coach at the postgame hand shake making him look about two feet tall, I legit thought we were going to take over the world again. He just managed everything poorly. But even with the advantage of hindsight, it's tough to make an argument that was a bad "hire". I definitely thought Fuente would be better, though I wasn't as high on him coming out of Memphis as a lot of other people were. Bronco I knew would be solid (solid does not mean great), and I thought he was a perfect fit for that program.
 
do you think being 20-23 at virginia makes you a good coach? or that 20-23 at virginia is more impressive than going 26-13 at miami?
I think the analysis re Bronco at UVA is just premature right now. He inherited a bit of a dumpster fire and everyone knew it was going to take some time. He's also got a pretty solid reputation of getting teams that aren't made of superstars to play at a strong level. He had numerous double digit win seasons at BYU and took them to a bowl every year he was there, I believe. And his teams were defensive minded and usually looked well coached. I'm surely not touting him as some elite coaching mastermind by any means, but I think he was a great fit for UVA and will bring a similar identity he had at BYU to Charlottesville. You're already seeing it. But the verdict won't be out on him until we see what he can do now that he's got mostly his own kids and has been there long enough to really put his stamp on things. I think you gotta see what happens with them in 2019 and 2020 before you can make a final judgment. He's been on a rather positive trajectory thus far, though Virginia is never going to be a football power.

Having said all of that, I would not want him as our coach, no.
 
Virginia turned it over 5 times against Notre Dame and was losing to Bowling Green at home in the fourth quarter the week before.
Meanwhile they have one loss to a top 10 team and Us ... well we all know what we are and what we'll continue to be

Carry on
 
We have reached a new comedic level in reaching for criticism.

Props to you OP.
So you're ok with the fake swag, fruitcake gimmicks like the fashion show, etc, etc? You think this is a good football culture we're building?
 
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Bronco is a good coach but let’s not go overboard. Let’s see what sort of PEAK success he can achieve. His teams have gotten better every year at UVA but there was no way to go but up after going 2-10.

Honest question: if manny went 2-10, then 6-7, then 8-5, and then in year four was 4-1... would you be happy with that?
Lol ..no

We're in the ****en Corstal for Christs sake. Those #'s are unacceptable
 
We could have Jimmy Johnson back and you guys would want to runs his *** off if his 1st two season went

7-6
8-5

I can see it now, "Jimmy lost it a long time ago", "Jimmy is way out of his league in today's game", "JJ just doesn't have that fire anymore"
 
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