Manny Diaz vs Geoff Collins Miss State comparison(long)

[iLoveTDs]

Scoring Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 23rd (21.7 ppg allowed)
2015 w/ Diaz: 36th (23.2 ppg allowed)

Rushing Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 44th (151.54 yds allowed per game)
2015 w/ Diaz: 70th (174.6 yds allowed per game)

Passing Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 117th (272.8 yds allowed per game)
2015 w/ Diaz: 57th (216.5 yds allowed per game)

Total Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 86th (424.4 yds allowed per game)
2015 w/ Diaz: 56th (391.2 yds allowed per game)

Mississippi State's Offensive Time of Possession
2014 w/ Collins: 71st (29:37)
2015 w/ Diaz: 123rd (26:16)

A lot needs to be viewed through the lens of the stat comparison at the bottom, which I grossly enhanced with a bigger font, so it's easier to read.

Diaz's defense contributes to poor TOP too though (in the same way D'Onofrio's did). Miss St was great in the redzone and all, but they did have a tendency to allow long time consuming drives. Is there a stat for where a team ranks in terms of forcing 3 and outs?? That would be the best indicator, not TOP.

Honestly, with a big time S&C coach like Ivey or Moffitt, we will be knockin heads.

Most important off-season hire to me is the SC. More important than DC imo.

Build monsters and let em loose.

 

[Gatorhater]

Forget all that. I would not work that hard writing a post unless someone was paying me. Nice work OP but try maybe getting job, girlfriend or just start drinking more. I wish that heck Golden could have worked that well.

 

[IndayArtHauz]

Scoring Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 23rd (21.7 ppg allowed)
2015 w/ Diaz: 36th (23.2 ppg allowed)

Rushing Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 44th (151.54 yds allowed per game)
2015 w/ Diaz: 70th (174.6 yds allowed per game)

Passing Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 117th (272.8 yds allowed per game)
2015 w/ Diaz: 57th (216.5 yds allowed per game)

Total Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 86th (424.4 yds allowed per game)
2015 w/ Diaz: 56th (391.2 yds allowed per game)

Mississippi State's Offensive Time of Possession
2014 w/ Collins: 71st (29:37)
2015 w/ Diaz: 123rd (26:16)

A lot needs to be viewed through the lens of the stat comparison at the bottom, which I grossly enhanced with a bigger font, so it's easier to read.

Diaz's defense contributes to poor TOP too though (in the same way D'Onofrio's did). Miss St was great in the redzone and all, but they did have a tendency to allow long time consuming drives. Is there a stat for where a team ranks in terms of forcing 3 and outs?? That would be the best indicator, not TOP.

Honestly, with a big time S&C coach like Ivey or Moffitt, we will be knockin heads.

Most important off-season hire to me is the SC. More important than DC imo.

Build monsters and let em loose.

Can you elaborate on this? Diaz alone caused a 50-spot drop in the TOP ranking? I'd think the O's rushing attack being nerfed had more to do with it.

 

[djciombor]

Excellent post OP. I think our secondary hires will be hard to judge because of the D-line. The secondary will likely have success because of the way I anticipate the D-line to play, making it easier to defend the pass due to pressure on the opposing QB. The combo of Diaz and Kool (especially coach Kool) could carry the rest of the D.

 

[CaneInTheBrain]

The fact that Diaz produced a better defense than Collins minus 8 starters and with MSU's offense having a horrible Offensive Time of Possession makes me feel better about the hire.

Still would have preferred Aranda, but I think we'll be fine.

Except that he didn't

 

[LuCane]

Scoring Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 23rd (21.7 ppg allowed)
2015 w/ Diaz: 36th (23.2 ppg allowed)

Rushing Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 44th (151.54 yds allowed per game)
2015 w/ Diaz: 70th (174.6 yds allowed per game)

Passing Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 117th (272.8 yds allowed per game)
2015 w/ Diaz: 57th (216.5 yds allowed per game)

Total Defense
2014 w/ Collins: 86th (424.4 yds allowed per game)
2015 w/ Diaz: 56th (391.2 yds allowed per game)

Mississippi State's Offensive Time of Possession
2014 w/ Collins: 71st (29:37)
2015 w/ Diaz: 123rd (26:16)

A lot needs to be viewed through the lens of the stat comparison at the bottom, which I grossly enhanced with a bigger font, so it's easier to read.

Diaz's defense contributes to poor TOP too though (in the same way D'Onofrio's did). Miss St was great in the redzone and all, but they did have a tendency to allow long time consuming drives. Is there a stat for where a team ranks in terms of forcing 3 and outs?? That would be the best indicator, not TOP.

Honestly, with a big time S&C coach like Ivey or Moffitt, we will be knockin heads.

Most important off-season hire to me is the SC. More important than DC imo.

Build monsters and let em loose.

Can you elaborate on this? Diaz alone caused a 50-spot drop in the TOP ranking? I'd think the O's rushing attack being nerfed had more to do with it.

I've only watched 2 full games from their season so far, but Miss St's offense was not good (outright sucked vs TAMU) during both of those games. Diaz's defense did not look good, but the offense did them zero favors.

 

[CaneInTheBrain]

Lol @ people trying to convince themselves that Manny Diaz is anything other than terrible

The man had one of the worst defenses in Texas history with all 4/5 stars playing for him

He was fired for sucking so bad

If I had mentioned Manny Diaz a month ago as a possibility, y'all would've neg me to oblivion

ONLY reason he was hired is because his daddy is the ex mayor and political hookups. Dude cannot coach a defense

Lol @ people!

Lol @ stats!

Lol @ Texas stars!

Lol @ fired for sucking!

Lol!

Lol @ months!

Lol @ dads!

Lol @ politicals coaching!

I guess if you're gonna deflect, make it funny

 

[CaneInTheBrain]

Lol @ people trying to convince themselves that Manny Diaz is anything other than terrible

The man had one of the worst defenses in Texas history with all 4/5 stars playing for him

He was fired for sucking so bad

If I had mentioned Manny Diaz a month ago as a possibility, y'all would've neg me to oblivion

ONLY reason he was hired is because his daddy is the ex mayor and political hookups. Dude cannot coach a defense

political hookups for what? do you even think before you post? you said the other day that diaz was "fired by the people of miami" when in reality he had term limits and wasn't eligible to run anyway. you post literally nothing of substance.

can you just do us all a favor and chug some bleach?

Since you ask...we play in Sun Life today because of Manny Diaz

The people of Miami funded Marlins Stadium because of Manny Diaz

Which is why Manny Diaz is one of the most unpopular names in the city of Miami. Hoodwinked and swindled the people out of billions, tore down a beloved icon of our Canes.

If you think Dorito was unpopular, just wait until Diaz has a bad game and the floodgates open. Should be fun

 

[canesthing3]

A lot of good info in there, great work OP. The more I research, the more I like the hire.

 

[407cane]

Are you implying that Diaz is better than Collins?

certainly sounds that way. Kind of like your lips say no, but your body says "hello".

It may have come off that way but either way it's not how I feel and this is simply just a comparison on how our DC did vs a very good DC with the same talent, schedule, offense, etc.

I would take Collins over Diaz in a heartbeat. Guy has been a sure thing. I would take several people over Diaz.

This thread exists only to discuss relevant stats and provide an accurate measuring stick for Diaz.

People compare Diaz to brown, smart, Pruitt, Aranda, etc. But none of those are accurate as too many factors differ.


Would we rather all have those coaches? Yes. Were any of those coaches interested in coming to Miami? No

 

[whoopingcane]

Are you implying that Diaz is better than Collins?

certainly sounds that way. Kind of like your lips say no, but your body says "hello".

It may have come off that way but either way it's not how I feel and this is simply just a comparison on how our DC did vs a very good DC with the same talent, schedule, offense, etc.

I would take Collins over Diaz in a heartbeat. Guy has been a sure thing. I would take several people over Diaz.

This thread exists only to discuss relevant stats and provide an accurate measuring stick for Diaz.

People compare Diaz to brown, smart, Pruitt, Aranda, etc. But none of those are accurate as too many factors differ.


Would we rather all have those coaches? Yes. Were any of those coaches interested in coming to Miami? No

I was responding to this: Also I'd like to mention in no way am I implying that Diaz is better than Collins.

 

[CaneInTheBrain]

Are you implying that Diaz is better than Collins?

certainly sounds that way. Kind of like your lips say no, but your body says "hello".

It may have come off that way but either way it's not how I feel and this is simply just a comparison on how our DC did vs a very good DC with the same talent, schedule, offense, etc.

I would take Collins over Diaz in a heartbeat. Guy has been a sure thing. I would take several people over Diaz.

This thread exists only to discuss relevant stats and provide an accurate measuring stick for Diaz.

People compare Diaz to brown, smart, Pruitt, Aranda, etc. But none of those are accurate as too many factors differ.


Would we rather all have those coaches? Yes. Were any of those coaches interested in coming to Miami? No

They would've cone to Miami if our admin and BOT didn't revert to being cheap

Pay a competitive salary and you'll get the most talented coaches

 

[dookie blaylock]

Lol @ people trying to convince themselves that Manny Diaz is anything other than terrible

The man had one of the worst defenses in Texas history with all 4/5 stars playing for him

He was fired for sucking so bad

If I had mentioned Manny Diaz a month ago as a possibility, y'all would've neg me to oblivion

ONLY reason he was hired is because his daddy is the ex mayor and political hookups. Dude cannot coach a defense

political hookups for what? do you even think before you post? you said the other day that diaz was "fired by the people of miami" when in reality he had term limits and wasn't eligible to run anyway. you post literally nothing of substance.

can you just do us all a favor and chug some bleach?

Since you ask...we play in Sun Life today because of Manny Diaz

The people of Miami funded Marlins Stadium because of Manny Diaz

Which is why Manny Diaz is one of the most unpopular names in the city of Miami. Hoodwinked and swindled the people out of billions, tore down a beloved icon of our Canes.

If you think Dorito was unpopular, just wait until Diaz has a bad game and the floodgates open. Should be fun

manny diaz the football coach is not manny diaz the ****** ex-mayor. not sure why you're blaming the sins of the father on him. stop conflating the two.

 

[407cane]

Are you implying that Diaz is better than Collins?

certainly sounds that way. Kind of like your lips say no, but your body says "hello".

It may have come off that way but either way it's not how I feel and this is simply just a comparison on how our DC did vs a very good DC with the same talent, schedule, offense, etc.

I would take Collins over Diaz in a heartbeat. Guy has been a sure thing. I would take several people over Diaz.

This thread exists only to discuss relevant stats and provide an accurate measuring stick for Diaz.

People compare Diaz to brown, smart, Pruitt, Aranda, etc. But none of those are accurate as too many factors differ.


Would we rather all have those coaches? Yes. Were any of those coaches interested in coming to Miami? No

I was responding to this: Also I'd like to mention in no way am I implying that Diaz is better than Collins.

Well.. The sentence you're referring to clearly states that I do not believe Diaz is better than Collins. So not sure where you're headed with that one.

Unless it's sarcasm I'm missing that one as I clearly put it, however I understand the breakdown in the post may be seen to benefit Diaz but that's not the intention. I included nearly every Stat possible so there's little bias in those stats

 

[dookie blaylock]

Are you implying that Diaz is better than Collins?

certainly sounds that way. Kind of like your lips say no, but your body says "hello".

It may have come off that way but either way it's not how I feel and this is simply just a comparison on how our DC did vs a very good DC with the same talent, schedule, offense, etc.

I would take Collins over Diaz in a heartbeat. Guy has been a sure thing. I would take several people over Diaz.

This thread exists only to discuss relevant stats and provide an accurate measuring stick for Diaz.

People compare Diaz to brown, smart, Pruitt, Aranda, etc. But none of those are accurate as too many factors differ.


Would we rather all have those coaches? Yes. Were any of those coaches interested in coming to Miami? No

I was responding to this: Also I'd like to mention in no way am I implying that Diaz is better than Collins.

Well.. The sentence you're referring to clearly states that I do not believe Diaz is better than Collins. So not sure where you're headed with that one.

Unless it's sarcasm I'm missing that one as I clearly put it, however I understand the breakdown in the post may be seen to benefit Diaz but that's not the intention. I included nearly every Stat possible so there's little bias in those stats

it's whoop, man. completely sarcastic.

 

[407cane]

certainly sounds that way. Kind of like your lips say no, but your body says "hello".

It may have come off that way but either way it's not how I feel and this is simply just a comparison on how our DC did vs a very good DC with the same talent, schedule, offense, etc.

I would take Collins over Diaz in a heartbeat. Guy has been a sure thing. I would take several people over Diaz.

This thread exists only to discuss relevant stats and provide an accurate measuring stick for Diaz.

People compare Diaz to brown, smart, Pruitt, Aranda, etc. But none of those are accurate as too many factors differ.


Would we rather all have those coaches? Yes. Were any of those coaches interested in coming to Miami? No

I was responding to this: Also I'd like to mention in no way am I implying that Diaz is better than Collins.

Well.. The sentence you're referring to clearly states that I do not believe Diaz is better than Collins. So not sure where you're headed with that one.

Unless it's sarcasm I'm missing that one as I clearly put it, however I understand the breakdown in the post may be seen to benefit Diaz but that's not the intention. I included nearly every Stat possible so there's little bias in those stats

it's whoop, man. completely sarcastic.

Fair enough, my mistake

 

[whoopingcane]

It's not sarcasm, technically. It's fake ADD. It's pretty easy to pull off and usually easily identifiable.

"Someone give me some reasons that Diaz is a bad hire and don't tell me, 'because his dad tore down the Orange Bowl'."

To which, I respond, "his dad tore down the Orange Bowl".

 

[IndayArtHauz]

It's not sarcasm, technically. It's fake ADD. It's pretty easy to pull off and usually easily identifiable.

"Someone give me some reasons that Diaz is a bad hire and don't tell me, 'because his dad tore down the Orange Bowl'."

To which, I respond, "his dad tore down the Orange Bowl".

So you're saying it's sarcasm?

 

[The Franchise]

When did Geoff (I hate that spelling of Jeff) Collins become some sacred cow that Diaz can't be compared to? Collins, with a huge experience/talent advantage, at the same school posted the same results.

Collins might be an excellent DC, but UF had a great defense this year, at least in large part, because they had great players. Muscrap recruited his ***** off on the defensive side. Collins took over a great defense with great talent.

Two additional areas to inspect:

1. How does UM compare in defensive talent in 2016 to the UF team Collins took over in 2015?;
2. How much did UF's co-DC, Randy Lannard Shannon, have to do with UF's defensive success in 2015?

 

[CaneInTheBrain]

Lol @ people trying to convince themselves that Manny Diaz is anything other than terrible

The man had one of the worst defenses in Texas history with all 4/5 stars playing for him

He was fired for sucking so bad

If I had mentioned Manny Diaz a month ago as a possibility, y'all would've neg me to oblivion

ONLY reason he was hired is because his daddy is the ex mayor and political hookups. Dude cannot coach a defense

political hookups for what? do you even think before you post? you said the other day that diaz was "fired by the people of miami" when in reality he had term limits and wasn't eligible to run anyway. you post literally nothing of substance.

can you just do us all a favor and chug some bleach?

Since you ask...we play in Sun Life today because of Manny Diaz

The people of Miami funded Marlins Stadium because of Manny Diaz

Which is why Manny Diaz is one of the most unpopular names in the city of Miami. Hoodwinked and swindled the people out of billions, tore down a beloved icon of our Canes.

If you think Dorito was unpopular, just wait until Diaz has a bad game and the floodgates open. Should be fun

manny diaz the football coach is not manny diaz the ****ty ex-mayor. not sure why you're blaming the sins of the father on him. stop conflating the two.

He is where he is in life because of his father. Nobody would take a kid who never played a snap of football in his life and give him a coaching position without daddy's name and hookups.

Who knows what back room deals got this loser the job...maybe daddy promised to secure funding for the med school or something. All I know is that, objectively speaking, Diaz is a poor DC and doesn't help our football team. That's going by his past results.

He sure as **** benefits from his father, so why shouldn't he be judged by his fathers actions? Real question.

Also, you might convince me, but good luck convincing the mob when Diaz allows 650 rushing yards to a single opponent. You've seen the rabble come out here before, now imagine what happens when the new Dorito is also the son of the man who tore down the Orange Bowl...