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Stop making excuses for him... Rosier's post game comments told us everything we needed to know!!!!

His head was somewhere else>>>
 
Dorsey was rarely pressured, had 3 stud NFL RBs to run the ball, 3 first round picks at WR (2 of which might end up in the HOF), and 3 successive first round picks at TE.

Malik can run hot and run cold. He had a bad day at Pittsburgh. A very bad day. He’s 11-1 as a starter. Miami won games with him and won games because of his clutch play.

Get over it.

On to Charlotte.
 
Dorsey wasn't really a mobile QB but his jersey was always squeaky clean. His OL protection was out of this world. Someone may help me with stats of his sacks?
 
OBLIVION said:
Ivan The Terrible said:
OBLIVION said:
Malik stunk up the joint yesterday and was a key player as why we lost, but he isn't the 1st QB to have a bad game.

In 2001 Dorsey stunk up the joint vs a **** BC team and almost lost the game. The difference is Dorsey had a real OL which could run and pass block. He had a real defense that didn't just cause turnovers but shut teams down. We won because others picked up the slack.

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A group that help carry the slack was the OL and Portis.

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Plus a defense that despite having an offense that turned the ball over 5 times. Kept going out and forcing 3 TO themselves and scoring a TD. All the while only giving up 7 points to BC.

Our only offensive points were from Todd Sievers FG.

Malik is not good enough too carry this team alone. It is shocking that we have 10 wins.

Everyone wants to blame him alone, but where is the outcry for a OL that can't open holes? Oh i forgot, reading this board Malik needs to complete those passes so we can run.

A defense that shuts down ND, but needs 25 from the offense to beat a 4-6 Pitt team.

This offense needs chunk plays in both the pass and run to function. Richt offense is offensive to anyone that calls themselves an OC.
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The defense was on the field for too **** long yesterday. Malik not making throws and keeping drives alive finally broke our defense’s back. They gave Rosier 2 turnovers with excellent field position and Malik just f@cked them. You’re an ungrateful ******* for calling out the defense that with all their struggles yesterday, they kept us in the game. Malik is still our horse cause we have none better but this lose was on him. Like he said himself he was complacent, just out there to be out there and not dialed in.
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Again with the Malik ****ed them?

Not Richt and his lack of an offensive mind.

Not the run game that was non existent, but you're one of the

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that thinks we have to pass in order to have a run game.
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you're being a b*tch right now

WR's were open all game long, wtf do you want out of richt? You want the offensive line to be wide open too?
 
OL and elite defense wins champsionships. Doesnt matter scheme. Its a formula that has worked for 100 years.
 
Say whatever you want about a pro style offense, but it is much more effective for running the ball and the quick passing game.
 
Jedi Master Cane said:
kryptonite said:
Jedi Master Cane said:
datcaneguy said:
look at the games leading up to that game. Dorsey was consistently accurate and didn’t get off to slow starts. We were blowing teams out in the first quarter. Two totally different situations.

Dorsey will be mentioned with Toretta, Kelly, Kosar in terms of talent. Malik more so along the Jacory and Morris
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I don't think anyone has ever talked about Rosier's talent behind anywhere near great. I remember when the Miami Herald ran an article a few weeks back that NFL teams were taking notice of Rosier and all I could do was shake my head at how little people who don't follow a program closely know about the players.

The issue, the point, and the takeaway from what we saw yesterday is that Richt panicked in a crucial moment. I've watched more football over the last 35 years than I care to admit and I can't tell you how many times, with teams all over the country and at all levels, where "Team A" struggles on offense with **** poor QB play for 3 quarters but manages to stay in a close game and then puts together just one or two good drives late in the 4th and wins. It happens all the ******* time....for the love of God it's happened to us on more than one occasion this season.

So there's the rub. Richt neutered any chance for that "one drive" to happen on one of the MOST CRUCIAL DRIVES in the 4th quarter. We had the ball in great field position, down by only 10, with more than 11 minutes on the clock. Richt just ****ed away a drive to someone try to prove some asinine point? With no capable back up QB to execute during Rosier's absence?

It's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen a head coach do at ANY level. Period.
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It may have been the wrong move, but it wasn't "to prove a point" it was meant to be motivational. The game was slipping away and it didn't look like Rosier was getting his sht together so Richt sat him for a series hoping that would provide a spark. Personally, I think it was the right move but he should have done it sooner. It was too late, but Rosier came out and threw a TD so you could argue that it worked. You could also argue that the D had been doing a decent job so there was reason to expect the ball back 2-3 more times, but it didn't work out that way.
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I only threw the "prove a point" thing in there because it's become a narrative with the retards on this board now in several of the other threads discussing the topic. The types on this board that blindly defend the coaching staff come up with garbage like this to attempt to justify something that isn't justifiable.

There is no universe where that was a good decision. This isn't a hindsight thing playing the result either. I lost my god**** mind the second the announcer cut in and revealed what the ghost of Randy Shannon had just done.
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Agree to disagree.
 
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The one thing I'd like to see from a QB who is stinking up the joint is some kind of leadership. Everyone has an off day. Can be qbs who can't hit wrs on the run, can be baseball pitchers when the breaking ball just isn't breaking. I would be less upset if Rosier had gathered the team on the sideline and said, "Guys, I just don't have it today. I need you all to pick me up and get this W." Instead he had the 1000 yard stare like he just came out of a firefight in Nam.
 
I think you’ll have a hard time finding anyone on this board who thinks the OL is blameless. But Rosier’s performance was simply inexcusable. Even if you want to give him a pass for overthrowing and underthrowing deep routes, missing open receivers on swing and screen passes is hard to overlook.
 
Miami Punted the ball on Offense 10 times, was 4/15 on 3rd down & only ran 59 plays the whole game.

Was the Defense perfect? No, not by any standard, they underperformed.

But, they gave the Offense 2 turnovers with a short field on the 30yd line & the Offense couldn't score.

Was the game 100% Rosier's fault? No... The OL, Richt & Special Teams deserve blame too & so does the Defense.

But, the Defense should be the last unit that catches heat for that game, it's quite obvious how the flow of the game went, the Offense didn't hold up their end & as a result he Defense eventually gave way.

The Defense has to score for us to win now? The Defense has to shut teams out for us win? They shouldn't expect for the Offense to be able to put up 3 TD's at least? Is that what yall are saying?

We have a ton of weapons on Offense, lots of speed on the perimeter & they're only good for a score or two and the Defense has to carry it the rest of the way or we lose is what you're saying?

Come on man... You don't have to reach this hard to make excuses, call a spade a spade.

Against Clemson we're going to have to bring our A game, every unit better show up & play their best game.

This is a good team no need to justify poor performances, they're all big boys & they know when they fcked up, Coaches have to get them ready & prepared for the biggest game this program has played in over a decade.
 
Liberty City El said:
Miami Punted the ball on Offense 10 times, was 4/15 on 3rd down & only ran 59 plays the whole game.

Was the Defense perfect? No, not by any standard, they underperformed.

But, they gave the Offense 2 turnovers with a short field on the 30yd line & the Offense couldn't score.

Was the game 100% Rosier's fault? No... The OL, Richt & Special Teams deserve blame too & so does the Defense.

But, the Defense should be the last unit that catches heat for that game, it's quite obvious how the flow of the game went, the Offense didn't hold up their end & as a result he Defense eventually gave way.

The Defense has to score for us to win now? The Defense has to shut teams out for us win? They shouldn't expect for the Offense to be able to put up 3 TD's at least? Is that what yall are saying?

We have a ton of weapons on Offense, lots of speed on the perimeter & they're only good for a score or two and the Defense has to carry it the rest of the way or we lose is what you're saying?

Come on man... You don't have to reach this hard to make excuses, call a spade a spade.

Against Clemson we're going to have to bring our A game, every unit better show up & play their best game.

This is a good team no need to justify poor performances, they're all big boys & they know when they fcked up, Coaches have to get them ready & prepared for the biggest game this program has played in over a decade.
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Agree 100%. But when virtually every unit on the team, at minimum, underperforms (this was the Pitt qbs first start!) and some are just abysmal (special teams, qb) that means the team was simply not ready to play on Friday at noon. That's on the head coach. I've actually coached 16- 18 year old high school kids (wrestling) and it's really not that hard to tell when they have no focus and would rather play grabass than execute at a high level. Richt gets paid A LOT of money to figure these things out. Disappointed in the HC more than Rosier.
 
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paksat said:
OBLIVION said:
Ivan The Terrible said:
OBLIVION said:
Malik stunk up the joint yesterday and was a key player as why we lost, but he isn't the 1st QB to have a bad game.

In 2001 Dorsey stunk up the joint vs a **** BC team and almost lost the game. The difference is Dorsey had a real OL which could run and pass block. He had a real defense that didn't just cause turnovers but shut teams down. We won because others picked up the slack.

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A group that help carry the slack was the OL and Portis.

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Plus a defense that despite having an offense that turned the ball over 5 times. Kept going out and forcing 3 TO themselves and scoring a TD. All the while only giving up 7 points to BC.

Our only offensive points were from Todd Sievers FG.

Malik is not good enough too carry this team alone. It is shocking that we have 10 wins.

Everyone wants to blame him alone, but where is the outcry for a OL that can't open holes? Oh i forgot, reading this board Malik needs to complete those passes so we can run.

A defense that shuts down ND, but needs 25 from the offense to beat a 4-6 Pitt team.

This offense needs chunk plays in both the pass and run to function. Richt offense is offensive to anyone that calls themselves an OC.
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The defense was on the field for too **** long yesterday. Malik not making throws and keeping drives alive finally broke our defense’s back. They gave Rosier 2 turnovers with excellent field position and Malik just f@cked them. You’re an ungrateful ******* for calling out the defense that with all their struggles yesterday, they kept us in the game. Malik is still our horse cause we have none better but this lose was on him. Like he said himself he was complacent, just out there to be out there and not dialed in.
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Again with the Malik ****ed them?

Not Richt and his lack of an offensive mind.

Not the run game that was non existent, but you're one of the

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that thinks we have to pass in order to have a run game.
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you're being a b*tch right now

WR's were open all game long, wtf do you want out of richt? You want the offensive line to be wide open too?
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This board is full of simpletons and another jumps up to the plate.
 
A++, Gold Medal for the worst stretch I've seen soo far. Our old canes teams were elite for that era. With the spread and motions and the game reff'd for the offense, no one is shutting anyone down all game long. Alabama the most dominate defensive team in this decade didn't shut down Power 5 spread teams completely with decent schemes consistently. Who is to say how many yards our great defenses would have given up. in this new era.

And you should have your posting privileges revoked for a week comparing ken Dorsey to malik rosier. Looking at stats in a vacum as if that ever tells the whole story.
 
TimeB0mb said:
Liberty City El said:
Miami Punted the ball on Offense 10 times, was 4/15 on 3rd down & only ran 59 plays the whole game.

Was the Defense perfect? No, not by any standard, they underperformed.

But, they gave the Offense 2 turnovers with a short field on the 30yd line & the Offense couldn't score.

Was the game 100% Rosier's fault? No... The OL, Richt & Special Teams deserve blame too & so does the Defense.

But, the Defense should be the last unit that catches heat for that game, it's quite obvious how the flow of the game went, the Offense didn't hold up their end & as a result he Defense eventually gave way.

The Defense has to score for us to win now? The Defense has to shut teams out for us win? They shouldn't expect for the Offense to be able to put up 3 TD's at least? Is that what yall are saying?

We have a ton of weapons on Offense, lots of speed on the perimeter & they're only good for a score or two and the Defense has to carry it the rest of the way or we lose is what you're saying?

Come on man... You don't have to reach this hard to make excuses, call a spade a spade.

Against Clemson we're going to have to bring our A game, every unit better show up & play their best game.

This is a good team no need to justify poor performances, they're all big boys & they know when they fcked up, Coaches have to get them ready & prepared for the biggest game this program has played in over a decade.
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Agree 100%. But when virtually every unit on the team, at minimum, underperforms (this was the Pitt qbs first start!) and some are just abysmal (special teams, qb) that means the team was simply not ready to play on Friday at noon. That's on the head coach. I've actually coached 16- 18 year old high school kids (wrestling) and it's really not that hard to tell when they have no focus and would rather play grabass than execute at a high level. Richt gets paid A LOT of money to figure these things out. Disappointed in the HC more than Rosier.
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The score was 10-7. We had 2 turnovers. WR were getting opened and not getting the ball. "Not ready to play" is a tired media narrative. We wouldn't be talking about punting if Malik hit the open WRs yesterday.
 
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what I remember about that BC game in 01 was that late in the game as Miami needed to run the clock out, the Oline was able to move people upfront and allowed Portis to move the chains effectively. In other words, they could run the ball when needed

That game was seemingly in hand till Gore than fumbled and well, we know what happened afterwords that game..
 
Malik is a average quarterback playing with playmakers.....he'll be better next year (accuracy), but I think Perry gains some weight and developes over spring and summer and takes the starting job next year though
 
iLoveTDs said:
LoyalCane24 said:
Rosier at his worst is WAY worse than Dorsey at his worst
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Based on what?

Dorsey threw 4 fvckin INTs, can't run the ball, and had a 75 QBR

Malik threw 0 INTs, 2 TDs, ran for 40 yards, and had a 109 QBR


He was awful yesterday, but how is that worse than Dorsey at his worse? Dorsey also had elite NFL pro bowlers around him, and a better run game, defense, special teams, etc.

Dorsey didn't have as many bad outings - that's the difference. Been if you are comparing someone at their worst - I don't know how 4 INTs and 0 TDs doesn't take the cake. Maybe Vinny in Fiesta Bowl vs Penn St?
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That game had the worst weather. Very windy and Dorsey never had a arm or could run.

Vinny was in a motorcycle (Moped) accident a couple weeks before the Fiesta Bowl. There was even talk he was not going to play in it. He could not practice with the team much and it showed.
 
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