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Make Your Argument: Ray Lewis as DC

Empirical Cane

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Ray Lewis as DC:
Pros--
- One of greatest defensive on-the-field play callers in NFL history (far more important than being a great player)
- Tremendous motivational energy (like a JJ)
- Charismatic and relatable to players--appeared to be huge asset as player-coach on Ravens
- Translatable passion for Miami program
- Stated desire to have positive impact on young people (his own son's troubles notwithstanding)

Cons--
- Might have "too much" alpha behavior in him for Richt's liking
- Has never been DC (first time for everything...experience can be WAY overrated sometimes)
- Does he have drive to truly be a long term answer?
 
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I really wish yall would stop w this former player should be our coach ****.
Being a great player doesn't automatically mean he is a great teacher and will be able to do all the other things that being a COORDINATOR entails.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Ray Lewis as DC:
Pros--
- One of greatest defensive on-the-field play callers in NFL history (far more important than being a great player)
- Tremendous motivational energy (like a JJ)
- Charismatic and relatable to players--appeared to be huge asset as player-coach on Ravens
- Translatable passion for Miami program
- Stated desire to have positive impact on young people (his own son's troubles notwithstanding)

Cons--
- Might have "too much" alpha behavior in him for Richt's liking
- Has never been DC (first time for everything...experience can be WAY overrated sometimes)
- Does he have drive to truly be a long term answer?
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Go somewhere and sit down.
 
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htownkidd said:
I really wish yall would stop w this former player should be our coach ****.
Being a great player doesn't automatically mean he is a great teacher and will be able to do all the other things that being a COORDINATOR entails.
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I really Wish the thinking that every elite player don’t know HOW to coach would go away. They have been doing it all the time on the field with their teammates, with that being said I’m not an advocate for ray Lewis coaching here but doesn’t mean he can’t do it and excel.
 
brock said:
I really Wish the thinking that every elite player don’t know HOW to coach would go away. They have been doing it all the time on the field with their teammates, with that being said I’m not an advocate for ray Lewis coaching here but doesn’t mean he can’t do it and excel.
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Well, I didn't say he didn't know how to coach. My point is no one knows. And just because he was a great doesn't automatically mean he CAN. We don't know if he can or not, so we don't need to hire him before we find out. That is my point.
 
brock said:
I really Wish the thinking that every elite player don’t know HOW to coach would go away. They have been doing it all the time on the field with their teammates, with that being said I’m not an advocate for ray Lewis coaching here but doesn’t mean he can’t do it and excel.
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On top of that, teaching on the field with your teammates who are already in the NFL and have proven that they understand football at the highest levels is NIGHT AND DAY from teaching 18-21 year old college football concepts.
 
Everyone always has this notion that great players can’t be great coaches. Everyone doesn’t need this history of being a position coach or coordinator just to show they can be great coaches.

Some of these fans just don’t understand how cerebral some of these all time greats were, which is what made them great players in the first place along with their athletic abilities.

I would bet guys like Ray Lewis, Ed Rees, and Peyton Manning would do well as coordinator without prior experience. They semi coordinated their respective units on the field in some capacity on the field anyway.

Fans are so scared of thinking outside the box but this is how you truly get ahead. The experience of being coordinator is not always tried and true, you have Donofrio, Richt and others as examples.
 
What's to argue??

Ray as DC

It Makes no sense at all..

now is NOT the time for taking wild chances
 
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My points being...

- "Experience" is often given far too much weight in terms of "good hire"
-- How many people have you come across in life that have said, "I've been doing this 20 years" only to leave you stunned at how bad they truly are?
-- All professions are littered with "experienced" gets who shortly turned into big job failures--they were welcomed into town with a parade only to be chased out of town by a mob a few years later
- Lewis would certain bring an instant cachet to not only the defense, but entire Miami program
- Not saying he should be THE HIRE, but if I were Richt, I wouldn't dismiss it...then again, I do believe a Lewis personality is too.big next to Richt
 
htownkidd said:
On top of that, teaching on the field with your teammates who are already in the NFL and have proven that they understand football at the highest levels is NIGHT AND DAY from teaching 18-21 year old college football concepts.
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Of course not every person will have the same intellect. But may I ask what is the difference between a 21yr sr in college and a 22 or 23yr old rookie in the NFL? You make it seem like there is a wide gap in their aptitude to learn. Granted I will give you vets do exist in the NFL. But even they have to learn new scheme when changing teams or coordinators.

My point is the aptitude of a player to learn and apply on the field is what makes teaching successful.
 
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cleverjdub said:
Of course not every person will have the same intellect. But may I ask what is the difference between a 21yr sr in college and a 22 or 23yr old rookie in the NFL? You make it seem like there is a wide gap in their aptitude to learn. Granted I will give you vets do exist in the NFL. But even they have to learn new scheme when changing treams or coordinators.

My point is the aptitude of a player to learn and apply on the field is what makes teaching successful.
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Fair point.
This could be argued both ways all day honestly.

At the end of the day, I just think we should atleast see Ray get his feet wet and know for 100% certainty that he would be good at this before we hire him simply based off of what we THINK he would be good at. We aren't in any position to hire people and have them learn as they go right now. Yes it would give us a huge boost in recruiting, but we need coaches. This is all moot because I doubt Ray would want to leave the life he is living now to be a college football coach anyway, but fun to speculate.
 
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