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Losing in winning? (Miami-Vatech thoughts)

Lokest said:
Unfortunately, but that doesn't change the end result. If you're one of the most talented teams in the country, and you miss the playoffs every year, you're underachieving plain and simple. People aren't going to be satisfied with that.
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Compared to what we were I'm delighted.

I want more - everyone does - but **** it's good to complain about 10 win seasons.
 
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Disappointing performance overall in my opinion. I don’t care how much we won by. I thought we had actually hit our stride after North Carolina State and were ready to start playing like we should.
More distressing to me was the pathetic effort by the defense. Did we not know exactly what their game plan was going to be?
 
jmiller said:
Agee, people kill me with the Bain gets doubled teamed every play excuse as if guys like Clowney, The Bosa Brothers, Aiden Hutchinson etc didnt get double teamed and still produce like you should if your really that guy. The truth is Bain is a defensive tackle who does a good job playing defensive end considering. I think he could of been a all time great at defensive tackle
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Last I checked, he was the number one rated PFF defensive end this year
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
Notre Dame understood the assignment.

Up 28-0 in the first quarter versus Syracuse.

Anybody can say what they want, but these things matter.
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Let’s be honest. Notre Dame is getting in no matter what. The only question is whether or not they’ll let Miami in with them. The games that Notre Dame plays the rest of the year are absolutely meaningless.
 
Cribby said:
Beck is streaky brother. This is who he’s always been. He played well early , average to bad in the middle and now finishing strong. Beckyl and Hyde
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He seems to not be streaky when they let him get in a rhythm and throw.

His bad streak this season not coincidentally occurred during the A-gap month. Even then vs smu he was good except that last INt.
 
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Mesidor is better than Bain
Mario still can't coach.
offense is boring and predictable.
only way we can win big with Mario is if he goes completely hands off with all things coaching. Get a new OC and leave him the f alone.
 
We must be the only fan base that complains this much after a win. Like if we're some powerhouse team that has won 4 out of the last 5 national championship games.

We have been a JOKE for 20+ years. I'll take any and every win, no matter how it looks. Look at our rivals and how pathetic they look. Until we become national champions, all these threads comes across as unwarranted entitlement.
 
k9cane said:
Miami wins 34-17, but really, based on what they needed -- a real convincing blowout -- this kinda felt like a... well, not sure. Louis Riddick, who called the game for ESPN seemed to understand the assignment better than the team or Mario Cristobal. Hey, it is what it is. It was interesting to see Miami score a last minute TD (Malware Toney, infecting secondaries all over the country) and I wonder if that will sway the perception any.

Yeah. it's come to this. But that's what happens when you drop ACC games you are favored in.

Today, there was losing in winning. Now, it seems like UM needs a ton of help to make the tournament.

- While Shannon Dawson will tell you that he hasn't drawn up anything new in the past few weeks, the reality is that this offense does look different. They came out in the first play with a full house backfield look and a hand off to Elija Lofton. You saw a lot more of the pistol formation, jet sweep action and continuing to utilize Malachi Toney as a throw off the end-around motion

It was all set up at the half. Miami put forth a dominating, up 20-3. But in a game where every point mattered and a convincing blowout was needed, the Canes sputtered in the second half. They not only failed to 'pour it on' as Jimmy Johnson said so famously, they actually had to hold off a hard charging Hokie squad that didn't quit.

- Again, the tempo that Cristobal plays with limits possessions and plays. Not sure why you would ever want to do that when you have the superior team and some of the offensive weapons Miami has. I love the new-found creativity, just wish there was a quicker tempo attached to it at times.

- Miami freshman continue to stand out, from Toney, to Josh Moore, to Daylen Upshaw and Girard Pringle, they all made key plays. This is a really good foundation on this side of the ball. The question is, who will be their QB?

- Speaking of which, Carson Beck has been really sharp the past few weeks. Just steady and accurate.

- Run defense wasn't good early on, and wasn't really good for much of this contest. The Hokies gashed them a bit in the first half, Marcellus Hawkins broke off a long run as Miami had issues getting off blocks and setting the edge. The VaTech offense was really handcuffed when they were in 3rd and long, but then late in the game they gave up some key conversions. This unit has been really good for most of the season, but today they weren't good enough for what Miami needed. To be fair, injuries have stripped this unit of key depth and solid polayers

- Near the end of the first half as Miami got the ball back, that series before as the Hokies had the ball, is exactly why fans flat out question the integrity of ACC officiating. Basically, they got 3 tries on 4th and 1, and they eventually got it as Kyrone Drones made a great individual effort as it looked like Chase Smith stuffed him. ACC officiating is beyond bad. I wonder if its flat out corrupted at times

- The Brockemeyer botched snap in the 3rd quarter was key. Miami had just gotten a first down deep in their territory and then that play put Miami way behind the sticks .The offense never recovered their mojo

- Is it just me or has Akheem Mesidor outplayed Ruben Bain the past few weeks?
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We're the most penalized team in the ACC and last in penalties against our opponents. You wonder if it's corrupt? 🤣😂🤣😂
 
scrantoncane said:
He seems to not be streaky when they let him get in a rhythm and throw.

His bad streak this season not coincidentally occurred during the A-gap month. Even then vs smu he was good except that last INt.
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Beck struggles when the picture changes then his footwork and mechanics breaks down. If he’s throwing to his first read maybe second he’s very accurate but his issues start when they aren’t open . It’s always been his downfall.
 
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gogeta4 said:
one gets singled up a ton and one doesnt.
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Agreed, no shade on Mesidor, but Bain was held and doubled all day. Saw one play where he beat the double, only to have to take on RB. Still had pressure on QB. Mesidor got the sack. Kinda been that way all year. Just sayin’
 
Category81 said:
That botched snap was such a killer as it tanked momentum. We boat race them going into the fourth if Brockmeyer doesn’t make that boneheaded move. Still think we deserve to be in if we win at Pitt but the ending of this game doesn’t help our cause
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The thing that botched momentum was hands of stone Bauman dropping that TD pass….
 
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The canesman said:
Freshman play big highlight of this team. The O line hasn’t played to their potential since 5-0
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The freshmen are fantastic. So many weapons on O. The OLine has been a little down on running plays but have protected well. Beck today could’ve thrown for 500+, imo. Just needed to use some tempo to score quickly and frequently.
 
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