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Do more people attend Dolphin games or Canes games?
That stadium is about 30,000 seats too big.
 
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AtlAtty said:
Do more people attend Dolphin games or Canes games?
That stadium is about 30,000 seats too big.
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Start winning games, those seats will be filled and it'll sound like there are twice as many there.
 
b caned said:
Must be alot of ****** OCs in the nfl then. The phins have run that d to much success over the last two years…. When they actually run it. Which begs the question…. Where the f has it been all year Flo?
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Thats 100 bucks for you, there are a lot of ****** OCs in the NFL.
 
AtlAtty said:
Do more people attend Dolphin games or Canes games?
That stadium is about 30,000 seats too big.
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I attended my first Dolphin game since 2012 last night and there were alot more people there than at the Canes games. There were a lot of Ravens fans but I also think a lot of people wanted to watch Lamar play. The person I went with said it was unusual to see so many people so It might be different when they play other teams. The Canes need to move to a smaller stadium but I have no clue were they could go.
 
AtlAtty said:
Do more people attend Dolphin games or Canes games?
That stadium is about 30,000 seats too big.
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It's hard to say in the stadium. Dolphins crowds are more evenly spread throughout, whereas Canes crowds will be really dense in parts (west end zone, students), and then near-empty in 307/308.
 
AtlAtty said:
Do more people attend Dolphin games or Canes games?
That stadium is about 30,000 seats too big.
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Nah. When either of them are winning the stadium is near capacity regularly. Y'all say in hindsight it's too big because like everything else in this city (sports wise,except heat)it's a product of losing & fair weather fans. When the marlins(forever ago)we're actually competing stadium was packed,same with dolphins and canes. I played in some games there it was packed to the teeth. Thing is though when the stadium is full of fans that aren't really invested in your success or failure it's just a strange vibe. Opposed to playing in any of the passionate fan base cities it was always wild.
 
who said:
Yep. I’ll take the win, any win, since we don’t own our pick. F the birds. Just point to the draft history and our 3 OC if anyone tries to defend those two.
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U mean to tell me that genius gm didn't lottery protect y'all's pick? Sucks to be a dolphins fan. Y'all ain't had **** to talk about since 1972 and some ****** mimosas whenever the last undefeated team goes down. That's the saddest thing to me, other than Vern & Lamar & AC I haven't had alot of dudes I'm close with come play for the dolphins. But it seems like they're just lost and don't have a goal they shoot for as a squad yearly.
 
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who said:
Yep. I’ll take the win, any win, since we don’t own our pick. F the birds. Just point to the draft history and our 3 OC if anyone tries to defend those two.
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Who did y'all trade that away for?
 
AtlAtty said:
Do more people attend Dolphin games or Canes games?
That stadium is about 30,000 seats too big.
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If we were consistently winning, 50,000 asses would be in seats every game.

One caveat: the Dolphins owner who spends countless sleepless nights dreaming up nonsense to be built in the parking lot, rather than how to give fans a reason to attend. Or, a place to park.
 
JeddTheFisch said:
If we were consistently winning, 50,000 asses would be in seats every game.

One caveat: the Dolphins owner who spends countless sleepless nights dreaming up nonsense to be built in the parking lot, rather than how to give fans a reason to attend. Or, a place to park.
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Some of this non-attendance must also be a south Florida/Southern California thing. Football attendance just seems pretty far down the list of things to do in those two locales. Unless the teams are great and attendance is THE thing to do.
 
being a jaguars fan ain't no better to be honest with you dude.

I don't ever watch dolphins games, are they as badly officiated as hurricane/jaguar games? There's blatant corruption going on in those games, i'm curious to see if the dolphins deal with the same crap?
 
AtlAtty said:
Some of this non-attendance must also be a south Florida/Southern California thing. Football attendance just seems pretty far down the list of things to do in those two locales. Unless the teams are great and attendance is THE thing to do.
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There really aren't that many CFB or NFL teams that are consistently filling their stadiums. This becomes even more true as they get deeper into a losing season.

At the college level, there aren't many programs that consistently average 50,000 or more in seats. It's not nearly as easy as people think. They see the major rivalry game, or biggest game of the year for a given program, and imagine that to be a typical crowd. Reality is that the very next week, that same program gets 30,000 in a 55,000-seater.

There are also some programs (SEC is a really good example) that can reliably depend on the away fans selling out their allotment and showing up due to geography. The only away fans who bring any numbers here are FSU and Clemson.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Nah. When either of them are winning the stadium is near capacity regularly. Y'all say in hindsight it's too big because like everything else in this city (sports wise,except heat)it's a product of losing & fair weather fans. When the marlins(forever ago)we're actually competing stadium was packed,same with dolphins and canes. I played in some games there it was packed to the teeth. Thing is though when the stadium is full of fans that aren't really invested in your success or failure it's just a strange vibe. Opposed to playing in any of the passionate fan base cities it was always wild.
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I agree with the facts of what you are saying here, and I'm not disregarding the differences playing in that environment, but some of the characterization just hit me a little funny. The way I view pro sports as a grown man has definitely changed from when I was a young boy. Maybe I've become cynical and jaded, or maybe I just grew too tired of loving a team that clearly didn't love me back, or maybe pro sports have shifted in a direction that I don't like, or maybe it's all of that. I honestly don't know. But, personally, these dolfinas no longer have a hold on me. I stopped renewing my season tickets in 2007 after 1-15, and I haven't really gone back except for a few times I got seats from my firm or was taking a client out.

And the end of the day, sports is just another entertainment business. Unless you happen to be Steven Ross, Gloria Estefan, Emilio Estefan, Marc Anthony, Venus Williams, Serena Williams, Fergie, or any of the other minority owners, nobody is really invested in the team. Since we aren't getting dividends or profit sharing, a solid experience is what we should expect from them. And a good performance is critical to that experience. I wouldn't pay to see Dave Chappelle if I knew he was going to be drunk and passed out midway. I wouldn't pay to watch Goodie Mob if you told me Ceelo and Big Gip weren't showing up. So why pay good money and waste a Sunday to see a football team that has been mostly garbage since Marino's retirement before the 2000 season?

You see fair weather fans? I see discerning fans. You see a lack of passion? I see people who aren't being fooled by the latest carpetbagger owners. You see a lack of investment in the team from the fans? I see a lack of investment in the team from its ownership.

And before anyone asks, no, I'm not blind to the parallels with the Canes. College football is a business first and foremost, and anyone saying otherwise is either trying to sell you something or a shallow thinker. But with the Canes, it hits me different. I grew up around the university, had family work there, did community service there as a kid in high school, and ultimately went to college there. They've got me on a purely emotional level that overrides the logical side of my brain. In short, I'm admittedly just fvcked and stuck with them, lol.
 
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No_Fly_Zone said:
I agree with the facts of what you are saying here, and I'm not disregarding the differences playing in that environment, but some of the characterization just hit me a little funny. The way I view pro sports as a grown man has definitely changed from when I was a young boy. Maybe I've become cynical and jaded, or maybe I just grew too tired of loving a team that clearly didn't love me back, or maybe pro sports have shifted in a direction that I don't like, or maybe it's all of that. I honestly don't know. But, personally, these dolfinas no longer have a hold on me. I stopped renewing my season tickets in 2007 after 1-15, and I haven't really gone back except for a few times I got seats from my firm or was taking a client out.

And the end of the day, sports is just another entertainment business. Unless you happen to be Steven Ross, Gloria Estefan, Emilio Estefan, Marc Anthony, Venus Williams, Serena Williams, Fergie, or any of the other minority owners, nobody is really invested in the team. Since we aren't getting dividends or profit sharing, a solid experience is what we should expect from them. And a good performance is critical to that experience. I wouldn't pay to see Dave Chappelle if I knew he was going to be drunk and passed out midway. I wouldn't pay to watch Goodie Mob if you told me Ceelo and Big Gip weren't showing up. So why pay good money and waste a Sunday to see a football team that has been mostly garbage since Marino's retirement before the 2000 season?

You see fair weather fans? I see discerning fans. You see a lack of passion? I see people who aren't being fooled by the latest carpetbagger owners. You see a lack of investment in the team from the fans? I see a lack of investment in the team from its ownership.

And before anyone asks, no, I'm not blind to the parallels with the Canes. College football is a business first and foremost, and anyone saying otherwise is either trying to sell you something or a shallow thinker. But with the Canes, it hits me different. I grew up around the university, had family work there, did community service there as a kid in high school, and ultimately went to college there. They've got me on a purely emotional level that overrides the logical side of my brain. In short, I'm admittedly just fvcked and stuck with them, lol.
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Love that post brother. You just captured being a fan in today's climate. Where the disconnect is however is that all of that is what makes a fan. You go to a game not because you expect to see dominance. You go because it's what you love. It's what you grew up on. It's the ups and downs and everything in between. If all you know as a fan is dominance than to me you aren't truly invested as a fan. Because you have to experience that heart break to really appreciate the opposite. Playing for butch REALLY taught me that. We're gonna be down but Got damnit just wait till we get back up! If as a fan you take the peaks and valleys out of the equation than it is no difference from simple entertainment. From seeing a movie or watching a show. It's not knowing what you're gonna get that truly makes you appreciate what you do. Go speak to a redskins fan about what it is to be a fan... Those ****** people haven't been any good since most of us were alive but you know the one constant? Basically in that same time frame of simply grown *** men being alive that stadium has been sold out each and every Sunday for about 50 years now... You know what it is to be a browns fan up till recently. Especially a real browns fan. You're watching Baltimore dominate throughout the years and simply saying fvck that ********** modell. A fan is a life long experience and like the rest of life it has its moments. But you don't stop living just cause it's going bad...
 
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Brooklyndee said:
Nah. When either of them are winning the stadium is near capacity regularly. Y'all say in hindsight it's too big because like everything else in this city (sports wise,except heat)it's a product of losing & fair weather fans. When the marlins(forever ago)we're actually competing stadium was packed,same with dolphins and canes. I played in some games there it was packed to the teeth. Thing is though when the stadium is full of fans that aren't really invested in your success or failure it's just a strange vibe. Opposed to playing in any of the passionate fan base cities it was always wild.
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Eh, canes weren't ever that type of draw outside of "big" matchups. Run of the mill conference games have always struggled. Fins have always enjoyed being the larger draw in general but that's the nfl. Different animal than college.

But, for big games and especially if fins/canes are doing well, oooh eee, those fans are amongt the loudest out there.
 
I don't get the Tua hate when all the franchise has done (Mostly Chris Grier and Brian Flores) is fail him at every opportunity. Consistently choosing outdated or failed OC's, continually misevaluating and acquiring poor olinemen, and providing zero running game. There are so many other misses or issues that have led to an environment where any QB would fail it's hard to count. Would love to hear others thoughts as this is a well-documented failure on the part of the franchise IMO, imagine Tua on the Saints or any other decent led organization is all I'll say.
 
I was on a Dolphins message board today and there were actually people on there talking about the dolphins winning out now and wondering if 10-7 gets them in the playoffs. Wtf is wrong with people?
 
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