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[Silver King]

Were they leaner than their counterparts? I for one am noticeably more buoyant when my BF% rises.

Roy was a 4.4 thinner, quick pitch, off to the races type back - thinner, Walt was a thicker full back around 185-90, both would sink like stones. Yeah now I'm so boyant you'd have a hard time getting me under water.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

You say that as if whites have chosen to bow out of competing in football at the collegiate/professional level.

You say that as if blacks chose to bow out of competing in power lifting. There are still plenty of black people that power lift. Go to any competitive PL gym in any city and you will see plenty.

Whites basically did. Every single successful white person I know refuses to let their kids play football. Most of their parents wouldn't let them play either. They all knew what sort of brain trauma risk it caused. This is not new information. People have known this for decades.

 

[Suhrthing]

You say that as if blacks chose to bow out of competing in power lifting. There are still plenty of black people that power lift. Go to any competitive PL gym in any city and you will see plenty.

Whites basically did. Every single successful white person I know refuses to let their kids play football. Most of their parents wouldn't let them play either. They all knew what sort of brain trauma risk it caused. This is not new information. People have known this for decades.

Anecdotal. Fact is blacks statistically don't participate in powerlifting, and whites have gone from majority to MI ority in football.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Anecdotal. Fact is blacks statistically don't participate in powerlifting, and whites have gone from majority to MI ority in football.

That is not an anecdote. Look at the massive decrease in percentage of white people playing football. It coincides with the decrease of whites in the NFL. Whites chose to bow out when they realized how bad the sport is for their brain so they stopped letting their kids play it.

 

[Suhrthing]

That is not an anecdote. Look at the massive decrease in percentage of white people playing football. It coincides with the decrease of whites in the NFL. Whites chose to bow out when they realized how bad the sport is for their brain so they stopped letting their kids play it.

I'd like to see some empirical data that attempts to correlate that relationship, that IMO long preceded the CTE cloud. And consider basketballs similar demographic trajectory.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

I'd like to see some empirical data that attempts to correlate that relationship, that IMO long preceded the CTE cloud. And consider basketballs similar demographic trajectory.

Just look at the number of white pro bowler by year. The trend is pretty obvious. Even as far back as the 60s every educated person knew football was bad for the brain. CTE is not a new discovery, people even knew about it hundreds of years ago, they called it punch drunk. Consider the trajectory of poor white people in inner cities. Decades ago it was poor Italian, Irish, ******, etc. immigrants that filled the ghettos of inner cities. Those people had 2 options crime or sports. Now those areas are populated by blacks and hispanics.

 

[Suhrthing]

Just look at the number of white pro bowler by year. The trend is pretty obvious. Even as far back as the 60s every educated person knew football was bad for the brain. CTE is not a new discovery, people even knew about it hundreds of years ago, they called it punch drunk. Consider the trajectory of poor white people in inner cities. Decades ago it was poor Italian, Irish, ******, etc. immigrants that filled the ghettos of inner cities. Those people had 2 options crime or sports. Now those areas are populated by blacks and hispanics.

CTE and football is a relatively new stigma. But please, show me your empirical evidence that correlates it to white flight from football and basketball. Soccer is also a repeated head collision sport which is known to cause cte, how's white participation in it?

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

CTE and football is a relatively new stigma. But please, show me your empirical evidence that correlates it to white flight from football and basketball. Soccer is also a repeated head collision sport which is known to cause cte, how's white participation in it?

Wrong! CTE and soccer is a relatively new stigma. As in the past couple of years. People had no idea soccer was bad for the brain and figured it was a safer alternative to football. People have known about football being dangerous for decades. I know people in their 60s that had parents that wouldn't let them play football because they knew it was bad for their brain. People have known forever that too many big hits to the head is bad for your brain. The very small hits like heading a soccer ball is what is new.

Going pro in dangerous sports, boxing, football, etc. are outlets for mainly people that grow up without any other choice, but to try and go pro in sports.

Rich people have their kids play sports like Crew, Tennis, etc. in hopes that it helps them get into the Ivy league or other elite schools.

I grew up in a 98% poor black neighborhood. Even there people knew football was bad for your brain, but they knew it was safer then trying to become the next Frank Lucas or Alpo.

 

[Suhrthing]

Jeff Astle passed in 2002. The new study just released about CTE and soccer was started in 1980. Enough with your anecdotes, show me the empirical data to back up your claims.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Jeff Astle passed in 2002. The new study just released about CTE and soccer was started in 1980. Enough with your anecdotes, show me the empirical data to back up your claims.

It doesn't matter when the study was started, it matters when the information became wide spread. If you ask your average person 10 years ago if soccer gave you CTE they would laugh at you. Sure some random scientists kept their kids from playing it, but it wasn't enough people to make a difference.

You are the one using anecdotes. Your whole point is moronic because you pick and choose when statistics benefit your point. Next you are going to say that the reason white people dominate in business and overall wealth is because black people don't want to have money.

 

[Suhrthing]

You know what I laugh at? The opinion that white flight from football was a choice made by well-to-do soccer moms (you won't even address basketball). As if poor black kids willing to sacrifice their future cognition for the chance at making an NFL roster aren't vastly outnumbered by poor white kids who want the same; yet this 1/10 demographic makes up 2/3 of the league? Maybe more?