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Like I said in some threads in the past. I don't care who you are, you could be Saban, until you can prove to be an elite level HC here I'm going to always be in a wait and see approach.

Right now Richt is finessing big time. He got everyone within the program all happy and sh*t for getting a IPF here when we probably should of had all that stuff long time ago but Shalalalala never cared about the football program. We been so bad in the past that what Richt is putting on them field is probably acceptable in the eyes of the BOT. Sad.

Richt is going to turn us into Iowa.
 
TheChosenOne said:
Richt isn't who we thought we were getting and he is everything UGa/Nation has said he would be. Which is new team, same underachieving Richt.

When we hired Richt we thanked UGA for being idiots (lmao) for letting him come to us not knowing that we've inherited everything UGA use to be. A talented team who year after year watched SharkF*cker win the East in the SEC with Treon Harris at QB (LMAO).

What they said: They told us that Richt does not handle pressure situations well. Coaches scared and will always go with the safe pick that makes him average instead of the risky pick that could make him great.
What we thought: We thought he would learn from some of his panic moves in the past like benching UGA's starting QB in 2015 after like 2 drives and countless other fiasco.
What we've gotten: Conservative and safe will always be his choice. Safe, safe, safe personnel choice (especially at QB), play calling, doesn't matter. Some pressure situations that come to mind are the onside kicks vs GT and UVa. Benching Rosier against Pitt. Benching Perry against UVa etc.

What they said: They said expect to have talented teams only for disappointment year after year.
What we thought: We thought with Richt now being in a weak ACC conference that he would manage to win more games a year and possibly be a 10-11 win coach since playing VT, Pitt, and FSU was a HUGE step down from playing Tennessee, Auburn, and Florida every year.
What we've gotten: So far, it looks like UGA fans weren't speaking out of their ***. Every time we ran into a team with a pulse we lost. We got clobbered by Clemson, LSU, Wisconsin. We also got clobbered by VT in 2016 when they were really good. We're only beating FSU because they have been the worse FSU teams in 40 years. We did beat ND and VT but those are the only games that stand out and those games had atmospheres we haven't had since the Orange Bowl. Richt, despite being in a weaker conference, is still a 3+ loss (9-10) coach like he was in the strongest conference. He will get you to either 9-4 or 10-3.

What they said: They said Richt isn't a good play caller compared to Mike Bobo and that he needed to stick to just being a CEO at HC.
What we thought: We thought since Richt produced those high octane offenses at FSU with Florida kids that he would be able to do it again.
What we've gotten: What have we gotten? The most predictable, uninspired, unimaginative failed infusion of a read option offense into a 1989 system one could ever think of. The system is broken and it does not get your best offensive players involved. We do nothing to exploit defenses and I mean NOTHING! If your weakness as a team is defending outside routes we don't run any of it. If your defense sucks at covering crossing routes we won't run 1 crossing route. We run the SAME EXACT THING over and over again with Richt calling plays. It like Richt and Co. don't even prep or game plan for defense.

What they said: They said Richt is a "QB guru."
What we thought: Yea, we thought Richt would be able to get production out of the QB position because of his time at FSU and some of those early years at UGA.
What we've gotten: He doesn't look like it. Rosier did not improve at all. Perry looked lost in the first half vs FSU and UVa. Also the way he is handling the QB situation is like a sh*tshow on amateur hour.

What they said: Richt never cared about special teams as the special team was always a problem while he was at UGA.
What we thought: We didn't think much of it because our special teams was never really bad.
What we've gotten: I've never seen special teams this impact-fully bad before. It losing us games or keeping games close.

What they said: Richt does not make the necessary adjustment as a HC to make the team better. Lacks self/team awareness and the ability to coach or scheme around the team's overall weakness while enhancing the strengths. If you have 9-3 talent Richt can't coach them up to be 10 or 11 win team. Your going 9-3.
What we thought: We overlooked this. We thought if we recruited like we're suppose to we would run through the ACC coastal.
What we've gotten: Again this is true. Richt can't get the most out of his team schematically or out coaching his opponents. He can only luck into a better result or out talent you like in 2017. You would have thought Richt would put in effort to clean up some of the fixable things that led to so many close games in 2017 like recruiting a punter, hiring a OC or a ST coach, etc. Nope! Completely oblivious to small details that could be corrected before we played LSU that would of course come back to bit us. No awareness of his team's weakness (or strength) as a whole especially on offense. Sure he knows we need to an O-line and some WR but did he even pay attention to special teams? Like at all? No? Okay. He needs to stop "hoping" and wishing that player X, Y, and Z will eventually get the job done. To much blind faith going on with Richt and his coaching staff. Either produce or get off the field. Stop this you have 5 games to prove you can play nonsense. Also stop the with seniority over talent no matter how bad the upperclassmen looks.

What they said: Richt made a lot of bad hires at asst. coach at UGa.
What we thought: We're getting SEC caliber asst. coaches! SEC caliber recruiting!
What we've gotten: A lot of green and journeymen coaches. 3 years in and we STILL don't have a average O-line. They still get their sh*t pushed in by teams that don't even recruit DL well. Brown, Dugans are coaches who undoubtedly can coach and recruit at an SEC level. You can add Manny only as a DC (not as a LB coach) and Kul coaches at Alabama. Simpsons and Banda also have potential. Rumph is meh at best and Searels should be fired. Richt Jr is not a Miami caliber QB coach. Nepotism at it finest. Our QB's haven't gotten better and he isn't recruiting a QBs every year which is dumb and could end up worse with the way we're currently handling the QB position now. It looks like amateur hour out here the way we handle some things.

What they said: Richt team's loses games they have no business losing.
What we thought: There is no way Richt would lose games with talented Miami teams to the likes of Pitt, UNC, or UVa.
What we've gotten: We lost to a 4-8 ND team in '16. We lost to UVa in '18. We lost to Pitt as the #2 team in the land in '17. Not to mention, there were plenty of teams we could of lost to like the 4-8 Cuse, 1-7 UNC, 2 horrible FSU teams, etc.

What they said: Richt team's seem to always come out flat, unmotivated, and takes the personality of Richt's nonchalant attitude.
What we thought: We thought Richt just needed a change of scenery. He'll be fired up to coach at his alum mater.
What we've gotten: Another bingo for UGa fans. How many times have we come out flat? ESPECIALLY the offense. The offense, more then any other unit, is like this. Nonchalant attitude from players getting nonchalant play calling from a nonchalant coach.

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Excellent post. Great points.
 
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So, I take it the revolutionary rb-motioning-out-of-the-pistol-formation-and-then-resetting-alongside-the-QB-before-the-snap wrinkle our staff came up with in the offseason wasn't enough innovation for you guys?
 
nycane said:
17-24 at uga vs top 15 teams. he got a few here already.
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That's basically the resume for a typical coach who gets a premature extension at the University of Miami.

Seriously, is there a more badly run program in the country when you take into account we are geographically located in the THE most fertile recruiting ground in the United States?
 
TheChosenOne said:
Like I said in some threads in the past. I don't care who you are, you could be Saban, until you can prove to be an elite level HC here I'm going to always be in a wait and see approach.

Right now Richt is finessing big time. He got everyone within the program all happy and sh*t for getting a IPF here when we probably should of had all that stuff long time ago but Shalalalala never cared about the football program. We been so bad in the past that what Richt is putting on them field is probably acceptable in the eyes of the BOT. Sad.

Richt is going to turn us into Iowa.
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It's sad, but there's a **** of a lot of truth in this post. I've been saying these same things for a while now.
 
Meast21 said:
I'll get downvoted for this but if were gonna be straight honest we should at least also recognize some of the good he has done:

- Very good recruiting (not elite and minus QB)
- IPF and donations
- Packing our stadium (renovations helped)
- Rebuilt connections in south florida and with the youth
- Running a clean program (many of you dont care but more sanctions would end the program forever)
- Hiring Manny Diaz and letting us have the aggressive D we have wanted for 10+ years
- Winning Coastal and a couple nice wins (VT, ND, FSU 2 years in a row)

All in all, i agree with OP's post and my list above absolutely does not outway the bad. Hope he somehow becomes less stubborn and makes changes (doubtful) or we have minimum 3 more years of this before BOT/Flake James even consider firing him
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You're definitely right about the down voting lol
 
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Meast21 said:
I'll get downvoted for this but if were gonna be straight honest we should at least also recognize some of the good he has done:

- Very good recruiting (not elite and minus QB)
- IPF and donations
- Packing our stadium (renovations helped)
- Rebuilt connections in south florida and with the youth
- Running a clean program (many of you dont care but more sanctions would end the program forever)
- Hiring Manny Diaz and letting us have the aggressive D we have wanted for 10+ years
- Winning Coastal and a couple nice wins (VT, ND, FSU 2 years in a row)

All in all, i agree with OP's post and my list above absolutely does not outway the bad. Hope he somehow becomes less stubborn and makes changes (doubtful) or we have minimum 3 more years of this before BOT/Flake James even consider firing him
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Everything u mentioned that’s good is y he should be an AD at this point of his career. A lot of PR moves.
 
Personally, I think the positives we have seen outweigh the negatives SO FAR.

The clear issues are:
-Offensive playcalling
-EVERYTHING ON THE OFFENSIVE LINE (coach players etc...)
-SPECIAL TEAMS

Everything else (i say this frankly) is an improvement over the past 10 years.

-No.1 Defense in the nation- all things on defense are off the chopping block. All coaches are safe, scheme is safe, I am leaving it as is.
-Stacked skilled positions
-Excellent coaching at WR
-IPF
-National relevance

So in conclusion, we have some changes to make:
1. Fire O-line coach
2. Fire QB coach or give him another job
3. Get ST coach
4. Offensive coord.

With all of this in place, then you evaluate if Richt is a bust or not.

The lack of passion one doesn't sit with me honestly... The entire defensive side of the ball is a war-zone of rambo's so you cant tell me the team is taking on the personality of the head coach. I think the offense is to an extent, but not the team. I played O-line, and I know the kinda coach you need in that position to make it work, and its honestly a total hard ***. Kehoe was one of those to me, but hes past his prime I think.

It all starts in the trenches... you heard our center's quote from MID WEEK PRACTICE this week? Talking bout 'players getting in their feelings' because they were getting yelled at, not doing their jobs... That screams pussyfication to me. Theres no dogs up front right now. No time to throw, ZERO push up front in the run game, just a total **** show. That's what is permeating through the offense. They are all on roller skates. I know you saw Hayden Mahoney getting drilled and put on his *** into Rosier. I don't care who you play, if that's what we got up front we can't win.

Yeah, I am ****ed, but I know we aint doin it up front. Look how much elite line play on the defense has helped us this year. Would be same on offense.
 
TheChosenOne said:
Richt isn't who we thought.
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Actually he was exactly who some of us thought he was...Not the guy. There was no reason to think he was the guy.

1. How often does an HC at a real program, with such a large sample size (15 years or more), exceed their prior results?

2. Richt was the HC/OC at UGA for the first 6 years. Then UGA said no more. They stripped him of his playcalling duties. The offense then went on to score more points and gain more yards (after the demotion). Why did people think that Richt just needed an opportunity to be the HC/OC again?

3. The coaching in the Coastal is such dogchit that any Average Joe, who can limit mistakes, can have some “success”. The coaching at Miami has been bad for such a long time that simply being better than the prior regimes isn’t an accomplishment.

4. The only thing to not truly understand or think of beforehand was Richt's ego:

a. Who hires your unqualified dipchit son to coach QBs?
b. Who makes zero personnel changes on the offensive side of the ball over 3 off-seasons?
c. When given the opportunity to add a 10th coach, who picks someone on defense?
d. If you're so insistent on calling plays and it has been awhile, who brings in ZERO help on their staff? Who hires NO ONE who can help diagnose an offense?

Is the above ego or stupidity?

5. Finally, why did it take so many of you so long to know/see the same stuff? You think that loss at UVA exposed "NEW" stuff? Perhaps people should use more rational thinking in the future.
 
Hargre22 said:
He's not called 10 WIN RICHT for nothing...
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Actually he should be called 9.67 Win Richt.

If you break it down...

The Relevant Years: 2001-2007 (7 Seasons)

Wins: 72 or 10.3 Wins Per Season
Conference Titles: 2
BCS Games: 3

The Recent Years: 2008-2015 (8 Seasons)

Wins: 73 or 9.1 Wins Per Season
Conference Titles: 0
BCS Games: 0

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I think the difference in wins has to do with the quality of coaching in the SEC and when he coached against them. For example, Richt was 2-0 against Bama but then when Saban came in 2007, he went 1-3 against Bama.

[The records below represent Richt's record v. these teams]

Against UF:

2001: Spurrier 0-1
2002-04: Zook 1-2
2005-10: Meyer 1-5
2011-15: Muschump 3-1

Against LSU:

2001-04: Saban 1-1 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2001 and 2002)
2005-15: Miles 3-2 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2006, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2015)

Alabama

2001-02: Franchione 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2001)
2003-06: Shula 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2004, 2005 and 2006)
2006-15: Saban 1-3 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014
 
gabedm said:
Personally, I think the positives we have seen outweigh the negatives SO FAR.

The clear issues are:
-Offensive playcalling
-EVERYTHING ON THE OFFENSIVE LINE (coach players etc...)
-SPECIAL TEAMS

Everything else (i say this frankly) is an improvement over the past 10 years.

-No.1 Defense in the nation- all things on defense are off the chopping block. All coaches are safe, scheme is safe, I am leaving it as is.
-Stacked skilled positions
-Excellent coaching at WR
-IPF
-National relevance

So in conclusion, we have some changes to make:
1. Fire O-line coach
2. Fire QB coach or give him another job
3. Get ST coach
4. Offensive coord.

With all of this in place, then you evaluate if Richt is a bust or not.

The lack of passion one doesn't sit with me honestly... The entire defensive side of the ball is a war-zone of rambo's so you cant tell me the team is taking on the personality of the head coach. I think the offense is to an extent, but not the team. I played O-line, and I know the kinda coach you need in that position to make it work, and its honestly a total hard ***. Kehoe was one of those to me, but hes past his prime I think.

It all starts in the trenches... you heard our center's quote from MID WEEK PRACTICE this week? Talking bout 'players getting in their feelings' because they were getting yelled at, not doing their jobs... That screams pussyfication to me. Theres no dogs up front right now. No time to throw, ZERO push up front in the run game, just a total **** show. That's what is permeating through the offense. They are all on roller skates. I know you saw Hayden Mahoney getting drilled and put on his *** into Rosier. I don't care who you play, if that's what we got up front we can't win.

Yeah, I am ****ed, but I know we aint doin it up front. Look how much elite line play on the defense has helped us this year. Would be same on offense.
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You know that 3 out of the 4 things you ask for are not going to happen. That is the very reason he took this job... we are at an impasse or stalemate for next couple of years...
 
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Consigliere said:
Actually he should be called 9.67 Win Richt.

If you break it down...

The Relevant Years: 2001-2007 (7 Seasons)

Wins: 72 or 10.3 Wins Per Season
Conference Titles: 2
BCS Games: 3

The Recent Years: 2008-2015 (8 Seasons)

Wins: 73 or 9.1 Wins Per Season
Conference Titles: 0
BCS Games: 0

---------------------------------

I think the difference in wins has to do with the quality of coaching in the SEC and when he coached against them. For example, Richt was 2-0 against Bama but then when Saban came in 2007, he went 1-3 against Bama.

[The records below represent Richt's record v. these teams]

Against UF:

2001: Spurrier 0-1
2002-04: Zook 1-2
2005-10: Meyer 1-5
2011-15: Muschump 3-1

Against LSU:

2001-04: Saban 1-1 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2001 and 2002)
2005-15: Miles 3-2 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2006, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2015)

Alabama

2001-02: Franchione 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2001)
2003-06: Shula 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2004, 2005 and 2006)
2006-15: Saban 1-3 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014
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Ouch
 
TheChosenOne said:
Richt isn't who we thought we were getting and he is everything UGa/Nation has said he would be. Which is new team, same underachieving Richt.

When we hired Richt we thanked UGA for being idiots (lmao) for letting him come to us not knowing that we've inherited everything UGA use to be. A talented team who year after year watched SharkF*cker win the East in the SEC with Treon Harris at QB (LMAO).

What they said: They told us that Richt does not handle pressure situations well. Coaches scared and will always go with the safe pick that makes him average instead of the risky pick that could make him great.
What we thought: We thought he would learn from some of his panic moves in the past like benching UGA's starting QB in 2015 after like 2 drives and countless other fiasco.
What we've gotten: Conservative and safe will always be his choice. Safe, safe, safe personnel choice (especially at QB), play calling, doesn't matter. Some pressure situations that come to mind are the onside kicks vs GT and UVa. Benching Rosier against Pitt. Benching Perry against UVa etc.

What they said: They said expect to have talented teams only for disappointment year after year.
What we thought: We thought with Richt now being in a weak ACC conference that he would manage to win more games a year and possibly be a 10-11 win coach since playing VT, Pitt, and FSU was a HUGE step down from playing Tennessee, Auburn, and Florida every year.
What we've gotten: So far, it looks like UGA fans weren't speaking out of their ***. Every time we ran into a team with a pulse we lost. We got clobbered by Clemson, LSU, Wisconsin. We also got clobbered by VT in 2016 when they were really good. We're only beating FSU because they have been the worse FSU teams in 40 years. We did beat ND and VT but those are the only games that stand out and those games had atmospheres we haven't had since the Orange Bowl. Richt, despite being in a weaker conference, is still a 3+ loss (9-10) coach like he was in the strongest conference. He will get you to either 9-4 or 10-3.

What they said: They said Richt isn't a good play caller compared to Mike Bobo and that he needed to stick to just being a CEO at HC.
What we thought: We thought since Richt produced those high octane offenses at FSU with Florida kids that he would be able to do it again.
What we've gotten: What have we gotten? The most predictable, uninspired, unimaginative failed infusion of a read option offense into a 1989 system one could ever think of. The system is broken and it does not get your best offensive players involved. We do nothing to exploit defenses and I mean NOTHING! If your weakness as a team is defending outside routes we don't run any of it. If your defense sucks at covering crossing routes we won't run 1 crossing route. We run the SAME EXACT THING over and over again with Richt calling plays. It like Richt and Co. don't even prep or game plan for defense.

What they said: They said Richt is a "QB guru."
What we thought: Yea, we thought Richt would be able to get production out of the QB position because of his time at FSU and some of those early years at UGA.
What we've gotten: He doesn't look like it. Rosier did not improve at all. Perry looked lost in the first half vs FSU and UVa. Also the way he is handling the QB situation is like a sh*tshow on amateur hour.

What they said: Richt never cared about special teams as the special team was always a problem while he was at UGA.
What we thought: We didn't think much of it because our special teams was never really bad.
What we've gotten: I've never seen special teams this impact-fully bad before. It losing us games or keeping games close.

What they said: Richt does not make the necessary adjustment as a HC to make the team better. Lacks self/team awareness and the ability to coach or scheme around the team's overall weakness while enhancing the strengths. If you have 9-3 talent Richt can't coach them up to be 10 or 11 win team. Your going 9-3.
What we thought: We overlooked this. We thought if we recruited like we're suppose to we would run through the ACC coastal.
What we've gotten: Again this is true. Richt can't get the most out of his team schematically or out coaching his opponents. He can only luck into a better result or out talent you like in 2017. You would have thought Richt would put in effort to clean up some of the fixable things that led to so many close games in 2017 like recruiting a punter, hiring a OC or a ST coach, etc. Nope! Completely oblivious to small details that could be corrected before we played LSU that would of course come back to bit us. No awareness of his team's weakness (or strength) as a whole especially on offense. Sure he knows we need to an O-line and some WR but did he even pay attention to special teams? Like at all? No? Okay. He needs to stop "hoping" and wishing that player X, Y, and Z will eventually get the job done. To much blind faith going on with Richt and his coaching staff. Either produce or get off the field. Stop this you have 5 games to prove you can play nonsense. Also stop the with seniority over talent no matter how bad the upperclassmen looks.

What they said: Richt made a lot of bad hires at asst. coach at UGa.
What we thought: We're getting SEC caliber asst. coaches! SEC caliber recruiting!
What we've gotten: A lot of green and journeymen coaches. 3 years in and we STILL don't have a average O-line. They still get their sh*t pushed in by teams that don't even recruit DL well. Brown, Dugans are coaches who undoubtedly can coach and recruit at an SEC level. You can add Manny only as a DC (not as a LB coach) and Kul coaches at Alabama. Simpsons and Banda also have potential. Rumph is meh at best and Searels should be fired. Richt Jr is not a Miami caliber QB coach. Nepotism at it finest. Our QB's haven't gotten better and he isn't recruiting a QBs every year which is dumb and could end up worse with the way we're currently handling the QB position now. It looks like amateur hour out here the way we handle some things.

What they said: Richt team's loses games they have no business losing.
What we thought: There is no way Richt would lose games with talented Miami teams to the likes of Pitt, UNC, or UVa.
What we've gotten: We lost to a 4-8 ND team in '16. We lost to UVa in '18. We lost to Pitt as the #2 team in the land in '17. Not to mention, there were plenty of teams we could of lost to like the 4-8 Cuse, 1-7 UNC, 2 horrible FSU teams, etc.

What they said: Richt team's seem to always come out flat, unmotivated, and takes the personality of Richt's nonchalant attitude.
What we thought: We thought Richt just needed a change of scenery. He'll be fired up to coach at his alum mater.
What we've gotten: Another bingo for UGa fans. How many times have we come out flat? ESPECIALLY the offense. The offense, more then any other unit, is like this. Nonchalant attitude from players getting nonchalant play calling from a nonchalant coach.

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Amen brother preach
 
Jedi Master Cane said:
That's basically the resume for a typical coach who gets a premature extension at the University of Miami.

Seriously, is there a more badly run program in the country when you take into account we are geographically located in the THE most fertile recruiting ground in the United States?
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Maybe usc ?
 
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