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Last Night's Solid Win...But We Need To Talk...

Some of y'all get on my nerves...respectfully

In a rainy game...not good for passing games but Mario built a offensive line that can sustain games not winnable the way y'all want...but we win due to the work in the trenches showing how BEASTLY we are there...and we find reasons to nitpick. Typical Canes behavior...I saw someone say this was the kind of game we lose and ya know what? We didn't
We mauled them into submission on both sides of the ball and are now #2 in the land and someone still found a issue with it because we didn't win by 50
 
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Big O Cane said:
hahahahaha… I’ll just leave this here for everyone to laugh at you.
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Ya Boi said:
Some of y'all get on my nerves...respectfully

In a rainy game...not good for passing games but Mario built a offensive line that can sustain games not winnable the way y'all want...but we win due to the work in the trenches showing how BEASTLY we are there...and we find reasons to nitpick. Typical Canes behavior...I saw someone say this was the kind of game we lose and ya know what? We didn't
We mauled them into submission on both sides of the ball and are now #2 in the land and someone still found a issue with it because we didn't win by 50
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Friend...pointing out a possible trend to watch isn't moping...

I said it multiple times...our Canes have lost games like these over and over past 20 years and last night they didn't...that is encouraging progress...

It's ok to watch the game and look to areas of concern and where they can get even better...where we can all discuss...

Go Canes.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Ya'll don't want to hear this, but this needs to be said...

Last night's W was great for sure, one that Miami has struggled to get consistently for years and years...however...as with last season's VT and Cal games, this contest could reveal a big problem if Miami doesn't get fixed immediately...

The W against Florida wasn't secured until about 4:11 in 4Q. Despite the stats column domination by Miami, Mario Bro Ball failed to put points on the board w/ only 3/8 (38%) possessions (at that point) putting ticks on the scoreboard. The defense, like the offense last season, had to put forth heroic effort to keep Miami in the game.

Think about this...IF Miami has a miscue on the drive that put them up 19-7...and instead of scoring they fumble, failed to move sticks, etc...and then give ball back to Gheyters w/ 5-ish minutes left...

Gheyters find their footing and march downfield (just like they did 3Q) and go up 14-13...this morning is a VERY different CIS...

Does Miami have a 2 min offense to get the job done??

Now Empy, If my Aunt had a crank she'd be my Uncle right? Give yer balls a tug and enjoy the W! I get it, but remember the cracks, the big cracks, were there against VT and Cal and Louie Louie that basically telegraphed the outcomes of GT and Cuse to us...we just have to watch and listen.

Again, great dub dub by our Canes...but keep your eye on possession-to-points conversion rate going forward. Mario Bro Ball is awesome controlling clock and playing keep away, but one of the Achilles heels is if you don't score, you leave yourself very open to your opponent stealing a W at the end if they hang around just close enough...don't kid yourself...that could very well have happened last night and that drive re-establishing momentum to go up 7-19 could well be the most important drive of the game.

The Miami Hurricanes' motor is running, but the staff and players must refocus and get on the timing on cylinders set or this team is at real risk...

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Or, and I’m just spit-balling here, Browns legitimate TD doesn’t get taken off the board.
 
ArchersFury said:
Yall do the exact same thing you just press down on a weakness of each game and say eventually this will cause an L.

Then when the L finally comes you beat your chest and say I told you so. The gimmick isnt impressive.
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But it does get me an extra porsting pay bonus at the end of the season (it's in my contract for at least 6 of these/yr) and more Pollo Tropical coupons.

So yum yum.
 
CJ Daniels was wide open for a long TD on one play, but Beck didn’t see him, he instead threw a incompletion, I expect a Veteran QB like Beck to see that play, on the interception to Cormani he didn’t lead the receiver enough, I’m sure he’ll see this on film and get better
 
Empirical Cane said:
Ya'll don't want to hear this, but this needs to be said...

Last night's W was great for sure, one that Miami has struggled to get consistently for years and years...however...as with last season's VT and Cal games, this contest could reveal a big problem if Miami doesn't get fixed immediately...

The W against Florida wasn't secured until about 4:11 in 4Q. Despite the stats column domination by Miami, Mario Bro Ball failed to put points on the board w/ only 3/8 (38%) possessions (at that point) putting ticks on the scoreboard. The defense, like the offense last season, had to put forth heroic effort to keep Miami in the game.

Think about this...IF Miami has a miscue on the drive that put them up 19-7...and instead of scoring they fumble, failed to move sticks, etc...and then give ball back to Gheyters w/ 5-ish minutes left...

Gheyters find their footing and march downfield (just like they did 3Q) and go up 14-13...this morning is a VERY different CIS...

Does Miami have a 2 min offense to get the job done??

Now Empy, If my Aunt had a crank she'd be my Uncle right? Give yer balls a tug and enjoy the W! I get it, but remember the cracks, the big cracks, were there against VT and Cal and Louie Louie that basically telegraphed the outcomes of GT and Cuse to us...we just have to watch and listen.

Again, great dub dub by our Canes...but keep your eye on possession-to-points conversion rate going forward. Mario Bro Ball is awesome controlling clock and playing keep away, but one of the Achilles heels is if you don't score, you leave yourself very open to your opponent stealing a W at the end if they hang around just close enough...don't kid yourself...that could very well have happened last night and that drive re-establishing momentum to go up 7-19 could well be the most important drive of the game.

The Miami Hurricanes' motor is running, but the staff and players must refocus and get on the timing on cylinders set or this team is at real risk...

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This is why the touchdown that called back was a killer. I think we run away if that doesn't happen and the SHOULD NOT have happened. In that case you may not have sent this.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
Friend...pointing out a possible trend to watch isn't moping...

I said it multiple times...our Canes have lost games like these over and over past 20 years and last night they didn't...that is encouraging progress...

It's ok to watch the game and look to areas of concern and where they can get even better...where we can all discuss...

Go Canes.
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Literally what Cristobal says. The lesson to the team. Have a lot to work on.
 
Empirical Cane said:
My point was this thematically...

For 5 drives, our Canes made some progress, controlled the ball, etc.. etc...but came up with 0 points.

Nada.

Was it a passing game let down? Run game let down? I dunno.

But from the overall strategy of winning the game, the Gheyters were still very much alive until that score at 4Q/4:11.

Did it feel like it though? Nope. Our Canes were dominating them up and down, but they were clinging to 7-13.

Like the O last year with heroics that masked let downs on D, last night was tbe inverse.

2001 Miami did same thing against BC, but it was a one off. I'd look to last night's Offensive doldrums to also be a one off.

Go Canes.
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Yes, but last year our defense -- the backend specifically -- lacked talent as well as competence. Jaden Harris, God bless him, was a first year starter in a new position and proved to be a big play liability. While our D-Line wasn't close to what it is this year.

This years offensive line is top 5 in CFB, our RB's are Clydesdales, our WRs are a mix of savvy vets and capable youngsters, and our QB is a proven winner who has shown he will pick you apart when given time. There's a much bigger sample size than the last 4 games that will show you that last bit.

Sounding the alarm that this year's offense may be the equivalent heel as last year's defense should deservedly get dunked on.
 
coffeecane said:
This is why the touchdown that called back was a killer. I think we run away if that doesn't happen and the SHOULD NOT have happened. In that case you may not have sent this.
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Probably right...because...then our Canes would have 4/8 on possession-to-points conversion...

50%

Not too shabby against what we believe(d) the Gheyter squad to be.

What also hurt were the 2 drives that scored FGs...don't get me wrong points are great...but miscues cost our Canes TDs...especially the way Gheyters were just reeling at those moments...
 
TrojanCane said:
These games were nothing like VT/Cal/Louisville of last season. We needed divine intervention to win 2 of those.
Our passing game had a bad night in a downpour against a good pass defense. Cool, so we put the offense in 4 wheel drive and moved the chains on the ground -- at will.
That's what good teams do, they find ways to win. We are a good team. Are we a great team? Maybe, maybe not.
Will we win the National Championship this year?
Probably not. Do we have a chance? Absolutely. Accept that and enjoy the ride.
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TrojanCane said:
Yes, but last year our defense -- the backend specifically -- lacked talent as well as competence. Jaden Harris, God bless him, was a first year starter in a new position and proved to be a big play liability. While our D-Line wasn't close to what it is this year.

This years offensive line is top 5 in CFB, our RB's are Clydesdales, our WRs are a mix of savvy vets and capable youngsters, and our QB is a proven winner who has shown he will pick you apart when given time. There's a much bigger sample size than the last 4 games that will show you that last bit.

Sounding the alarm that this year's offense may be the equivalent heel as last year's defense should deservedly get dunked on.
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With the margin for error at ZERO (in my opinion to make CFPO)...the O going "cold", or any deficiency that is seen, needs to be dispassionately and ruthlessly analyzed and fixed.

In Space, no one can you hear you scream.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
My point was this thematically...

For 5 drives, our Canes made some progress, controlled the ball, etc.. etc...but came up with 0 points.

Nada.

Was it a passing game let down? Run game let down? I dunno.

But from the overall strategy of winning the game, the Gheyters were still very much alive until that score at 4Q/4:11.

Did it feel like it though? Nope. Our Canes were dominating them up and down, but they were clinging to 7-13.

Like the O last year with heroics that masked let downs on D, last night was tbe inverse.

2001 Miami did same thing against BC, but it was a one off. I'd look to last night's Offensive doldrums to also be a one off.

Go Canes.
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Not actually a one off, bc we had a 2pt win at VaTech a couple of weeks later. But, point taken
 
ArchersFury said:
You must be very proud of your internet points very impressive.

Your takes are about as grand as the guy who tweets NOT GOOD every time a player gets hurt.
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They are GOOD ENOUGH for you to comment on.

You must be very proud too.

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You are very flexible btw.
 
I’m not a football expert. But even the most elite special ops units debrief and criticize their performance after operations even when successful. I guarantee you that if I’m a mope about last night’s performance; Mario and the coaches are being super mopey right now.

It’s the only way you keep the tools sharp.

However, it’s extremely ironic that the bro fyzical game that people criticized is what actually got us through this game.

Not being able to close out some of these drives makes the game look closer than it was but it also gave a team that was gonna quit a reason not to.

That last touchdown drive was what was gonna happen in the second quarter if our center wasn’t fckng up.

Confidence can make average look elite for a few snaps. Momentum can demoralize a weeker team.

We gave them hope and they tried to capitalize. The momentum they had was reinforced by a turnover.
Our defense stepped up and the identity of this team that has been forged in the last 3 years rose to the occasion.

We knew they would quit. But our mistakes prolonged their decision to do so.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Ya'll don't want to hear this, but this needs to be said...

Last night's W was great for sure, one that Miami has struggled to get consistently for years and years...however...as with last season's VT and Cal games, this contest could reveal a big problem if Miami doesn't get fixed immediately...

The W against Florida wasn't secured until about 4:11 in 4Q. Despite the stats column domination by Miami, Mario Bro Ball failed to put points on the board w/ only 3/8 (38%) possessions (at that point) putting ticks on the scoreboard. The defense, like the offense last season, had to put forth heroic effort to keep Miami in the game.

Think about this...IF Miami has a miscue on the drive that put them up 19-7...and instead of scoring they fumble, failed to move sticks, etc...and then give ball back to Gheyters w/ 5-ish minutes left...

Gheyters find their footing and march downfield (just like they did 3Q) and go up 14-13...this morning is a VERY different CIS...

Does Miami have a 2 min offense to get the job done??

Now Empy, If my Aunt had a crank she'd be my Uncle right? Give yer balls a tug and enjoy the W! I get it, but remember the cracks, the big cracks, were there against VT and Cal and Louie Louie that basically telegraphed the outcomes of GT and Cuse to us...we just have to watch and listen.

Again, great dub dub by our Canes...but keep your eye on possession-to-points conversion rate going forward. Mario Bro Ball is awesome controlling clock and playing keep away, but one of the Achilles heels is if you don't score, you leave yourself very open to your opponent stealing a W at the end if they hang around just close enough...don't kid yourself...that could very well have happened last night and that drive re-establishing momentum to go up 7-19 could well be the most important drive of the game.

The Miami Hurricanes' motor is running, but the staff and players must refocus and get on the timing on cylinders set or this team is at real risk...

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If Miami is going to burn so much clock on drives they have to come away with 7. Coming away with 3 just wont get it against a really good team. You get 2 FG's and burn 12 minutes of clock then the opponent burns 4 minutes and gets 7. Score TD's especially in the red zone. Problem solved. The Brown TD being called back on the penalty really changed the game with Miami getting no points on the drive.
 
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