Laremy Tunsil to the dolphins

[Zbrod95]

You were crying last night cause they didn't draft Jack at 13 instead of Tunsil, and the first round ended and Jack still wasn't drafted. You lose all credibility in this thread. Take a break.

Get the **** over yourself , I said Darron Lee too i wasn't crying get the **** out of here the the credibility **** that kid would've been a top 7 pick without his knee injury because HE said he might need to have it micro fractured when Karl Joseph who also has a knee injury was drafted a pick later. I've never questioned this kids talent, if I would've done that THEN I would've lost my credibility

Get over myself? I'm not the one writing novels here on a subject you obviously know nothing about. Fact still remains that your initial reaction was that the move sucked because we could have drafted Jack instead of Tunsil, and Jack is still available on day 2. You're lucky I work in the printing industry and I can give you a discount on some "missing posters". Your credibility is probably scared and calling for you somewhere in the dark.

Lol You must really suck at your job then my argument is draft a position where you didn't sign 3 players this offseason like a starting corner or a starting LB...I love how you're leaving out how I put Darron Lee even though in my first two posts because you want to make yourself look smart....

The dolphins line is still terrible even with the 3 bums they signed this offseason. They got what might be the best player in the draft at 13 at a position of need whether you'd like to admit it or not. You can make an argument for Lee but he went a full 7 picks later and there are still a handful of decent options at linebacker in the second round INCLUDING Jack who was your other option. The Dolphins have multiple needs at multiple positions. You failed to mention that we also have a new corner and LB in Maxwell and Alonso. So should they completely avoid those position even if a stud like Jack manages to get to them in the second round? When you have as many holes as the Dolphins do you don't pass on a stud that happens to drop to you at one of those positions. Jack and Lee were both projected in the mid to late first round, Tunsil was a consensus top 6 pick. You take the best value and move on. And btw making myself look smart is **** near impossible, Miami dade public schooling took care of that.

....your a ******* idiot Myles Jack has the potential to be just as good as Laremy Tunsil at his position AND until HE said he might need microfracture surgery he was a consensus top 7 pick as well...Also have you seen the ******* roster?? who's starting across from Maxwell and go watch Koa Misi play?? You just lost all credibility

 

[Zbrod95]

The people arguing for a LB over a possible All-Pro left tackle obviously don't know football. The fins have made bad move after bad move but with the amount of money they have invested in Tannehill they need to protect him .The OL has been **** for years. Did you guys not watch Miami last year? They couldn't protect Tannehill or open up any holes in the run game. The OL getting fixed should be their #1 priority.

So you fix the guard problems with tackles?? Again refer to Greg Robinson and the Rams

Or refer to Zack Martin

you mean the same guy that everyone said would be an all-pro guard coming out?? Hmmm didn't hear that about Greg Robinson coming out

 

[The Franchise]

If Myles Jack is healthy he's a total game changer. He can be more impactful than The Gimp.

 

[Zbrod95]

If Myles Jack is healthy he's a total game changer. He can be more impactful than The Gimp.

Guy's telling me he's a late first round pick without his knee injury and saying I lost all credibility. [MENTION=4841]The Franchise[/MENTION]

 

[moshated305]

If Myles Jack is healthy he's a total game changer. He can be more impactful than The Gimp.

And the Fins can still snag him in the top half of the second. Great player, would love to have him if healthy but he comes with a risk just like Tunsil albeit for different reasons. But I can't fault the Fins for at least trying to fix their biggest issue which was the OL last year.

 

[Zbrod95]

If Myles Jack is healthy he's a total game changer. He can be more impactful than The Gimp.

And the Fins can still snag him in the top half of the second. Great player, would love to have him if healthy but he comes with a risk just like Tunsil albeit for different reasons. But I can't fault the Fins for at least trying to fix their biggest issue which was the OL last year.

but how's is drafting a tackle going to improve the guard situation?? You're going to improve the line by playing a guy who never played Guard before there or putting a guy there that hasn't played there in 12 years

 

[CanesFan93]

Yea your right because it wouldn't be smart to trade down to Cincinnati's pick, Draft William Jackson lll(because you know WE DONT HAVE ANOTHER FUXKING STARTING CB) put yourself in a position to draft Myles Jack now and Jaylen smith or maybe even Reggie Ragland because you don't feel comfortable taking 2 guys with injuries even though they probably have more potential, then draft Nick Martin (Zach Martin's younger brother) who can play guard and center( and could possibly let us let go of Mike Pouncey because apparently he broke his foot so many times that he forgot how to snap the ball from the shotgun without throwing it over Ryan Tannehill's head)or Christian Westerman who plays guard(which you know would kill our top three needs). Instead you guys want to move Tunsil there( who's never played there) or Brandon Albert(who hasn't played there in 12 years) because that same move worked out SO WELL the Greg Robinson and the Rams right?? Not to mention WE SIGNED two veteran guys in Jermon Bushrod who said he was going to play Guard and Kraig Urbik. But you know apparently I'm the clown that doesn't know ****...not to mention Laremy Tunsil has never finished a full season with Ole Miss in the first place. I'm not doubting his talent, but you could've gotten two or three good players for his talent and drafted more player of your top 50 board.

Tunsil is a Tyron Smith type of talent. I'm not sure what the problem is *shrugs.

Its easy to say "Hey, lets trade down so a CB we want can fall into our laps" but what if Cincy had their eye on Jackson III from the beginning? He's taken at #13 , Tunsil is most likely off the board, and the Dolphins are looking pretty dumb but "We have more draft picks". I would rather take a chance on the blue-chip player rather than trading down for Jackson III. There are still some good corners left: Mackensie Alexander, Kendall Fuller, Keivarae Russell, James Bradberry, Cyrus Jones, Xavien Howard, etc. New DC Vance Joseph has a knack for developing corners so I'm not worried about CB unless we don't draft one at all.

If you're targeting Ragland or Jack in the 2nd, no way Martin or Westerman is available in the 3rd. Zach Martin was a LT at Notre Dame yet he's started at multiple positions in Dallas; it can be done. Greg Robinson was very raw coming out, Tunsil could have been a top 10 OT while he was in college. Bushrod is also an OT who will most likely transition to OG and Urbik is strictly a depth signing.

Either way you spin it the Dolphins have had bad luck at drafting blue-chip talent. They always get good players but never elite players. If Tunsil is as good as advertised, the OL will finally be solidified and it will open up a lot for this offense. What you need to understand is that all of their holes are not going to be filled in one year. Its just not going to happen, not in this weak draft. The Dolphins are rebuilding and the best way to rebuild is to stack talent regardless of position.

 

[Pizzle]

Get the **** over yourself , I said Darron Lee too i wasn't crying get the **** out of here the the credibility **** that kid would've been a top 7 pick without his knee injury because HE said he might need to have it micro fractured when Karl Joseph who also has a knee injury was drafted a pick later. I've never questioned this kids talent, if I would've done that THEN I would've lost my credibility

Get over myself? I'm not the one writing novels here on a subject you obviously know nothing about. Fact still remains that your initial reaction was that the move sucked because we could have drafted Jack instead of Tunsil, and Jack is still available on day 2. You're lucky I work in the printing industry and I can give you a discount on some "missing posters". Your credibility is probably scared and calling for you somewhere in the dark.

Lol You must really suck at your job then my argument is draft a position where you didn't sign 3 players this offseason like a starting corner or a starting LB...I love how you're leaving out how I put Darron Lee even though in my first two posts because you want to make yourself look smart....

The dolphins line is still terrible even with the 3 bums they signed this offseason. They got what might be the best player in the draft at 13 at a position of need whether you'd like to admit it or not. You can make an argument for Lee but he went a full 7 picks later and there are still a handful of decent options at linebacker in the second round INCLUDING Jack who was your other option. The Dolphins have multiple needs at multiple positions. You failed to mention that we also have a new corner and LB in Maxwell and Alonso. So should they completely avoid those position even if a stud like Jack manages to get to them in the second round? When you have as many holes as the Dolphins do you don't pass on a stud that happens to drop to you at one of those positions. Jack and Lee were both projected in the mid to late first round, Tunsil was a consensus top 6 pick. You take the best value and move on. And btw making myself look smart is **** near impossible, Miami dade public schooling took care of that.

....your a ****ing idiot Myles Jack has the potential to be just as good as Laremy Tunsil at his position AND until HE said he might need microfracture surgery he was a consensus top 7 pick as well...Also have you seen the ****ing roster?? who's starting across from Maxwell and go watch Koa Misi play?? You just lost all credibility

If you're going to call me an effing idiot at the very least spell you're* correctly, you can't call someone an idiot and making an elementary grammar mistake in the same sentence. Jack IS a mid first rounder BECAUSE of his injury, when have I ever doubted his talent? As a matter of fact I've called him a stud in this very thread. But you're on here crying about how dumb the Dolphins were for drafting what many consider the best talent in this class over someone who STILL hasn't been drafted. I understand he's great, I'd love to have him. We might very well get him in the second round. Maybe I'm going about this the wrong way.... If we would have drafted Jack in the first round do you think Tunsil is still around as a possibility in the second for us?

 

[moshated305]

If Myles Jack is healthy he's a total game changer. He can be more impactful than The Gimp.

And the Fins can still snag him in the top half of the second. Great player, would love to have him if healthy but he comes with a risk just like Tunsil albeit for different reasons. But I can't fault the Fins for at least trying to fix their biggest issue which was the OL last year.

but how's is drafting a tackle going to improve the guard situation?? You're going to improve the line by playing a guy who never played Guard before there or putting a guy there that hasn't played there in 12 years

The tackle situation ain't much better. If Tunsil keeps his nose clean then you have the most important position on the line locked up. Add in Pouncey at center and that'd a great start. But obviously there is a risk with Tunsil but at 13 I don't think Miami had much of choice based on needs. I think 13 was too high for Lee and too high for any other CB after Hargreaves went to the Bucs. Jack fell because of injury and he likely won't play this year.

 

[Pizzle]

If Myles Jack is healthy he's a total game changer. He can be more impactful than The Gimp.

And the Fins can still snag him in the top half of the second. Great player, would love to have him if healthy but he comes with a risk just like Tunsil albeit for different reasons. But I can't fault the Fins for at least trying to fix their biggest issue which was the OL last year.

but how's is drafting a tackle going to improve the guard situation?? You're going to improve the line by playing a guy who never played Guard before there or putting a guy there that hasn't played there in 12 years

The tackle situation ain't much better. If Tunsil keeps his nose clean then you have the most important position on the line locked up. Add in Pouncey at center and that'd a great start. But obviously there is a risk with Tunsil but at 13 I don't think Miami had much of choice based on needs. I think 13 was too high for Lee and too high for any other CB after Hargreaves went to the Bucs. Jack fell because of injury and he likely won't play this year.

Now Zbrod will tell you that Jack himself told people that he had to have surgery, for some reason it makes his knee injury magically disappear.

 

[CanesFan93]

The people arguing for a LB over a possible All-Pro left tackle obviously don't know football. The fins have made bad move after bad move but with the amount of money they have invested in Tannehill they need to protect him .The OL has been **** for years. Did you guys not watch Miami last year? They couldn't protect Tannehill or open up any holes in the run game. The OL getting fixed should be their #1 priority.

So you fix the guard problems with tackles?? Again refer to Greg Robinson and the Rams

Or refer to Zack Martin

you mean the same guy that everyone said would be an all-pro guard coming out?? Hmmm didn't hear that about Greg Robinson coming out

Robinson was a reach then and still is now. The fact that you mention his name with Tunsil's is hilarious.

 

[Zbrod95]

If Myles Jack is healthy he's a total game changer. He can be more impactful than The Gimp.

And the Fins can still snag him in the top half of the second. Great player, would love to have him if healthy but he comes with a risk just like Tunsil albeit for different reasons. But I can't fault the Fins for at least trying to fix their biggest issue which was the OL last year.

but how's is drafting a tackle going to improve the guard situation?? You're going to improve the line by playing a guy who never played Guard before there or putting a guy there that hasn't played there in 12 years

The tackle situation ain't much better. If Tunsil keeps his nose clean then you have the most important position on the line locked up. Add in Pouncey at center and that'd a great start. But obviously there is a risk with Tunsil but at 13 I don't think Miami had much of choice based on needs. I think 13 was too high for Lee and too high for any other CB after Hargreaves went to the Bucs. Jack fell because of injury and he likely won't play this year.

What makes you say our tackle situation isn't much better?? Brandon Albert made a pro bowl last year and Ju'wuan James was rated a top 10 tackle(https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/16/top-10-offensive-tackles/) at times during his rookie year before having to replace Brandon Albert his rookie year and only played 6-7 games last year. You trade down and you position yourself to take as many players you can get that you have on your top 50 board. I've never doubted Tunsil's talent but how are you going to draft someone when you signed a former pro bowler in Jermon Bushrod and a veteran guard in Kraig Urbik when you don't even have a CB to start opposite Byron Maxwell and Koa Misi is absolutely horrid at MLB.

 

[Zbrod95]

If Myles Jack is healthy he's a total game changer. He can be more impactful than The Gimp.

And the Fins can still snag him in the top half of the second. Great player, would love to have him if healthy but he comes with a risk just like Tunsil albeit for different reasons. But I can't fault the Fins for at least trying to fix their biggest issue which was the OL last year.

but how's is drafting a tackle going to improve the guard situation?? You're going to improve the line by playing a guy who never played Guard before there or putting a guy there that hasn't played there in 12 years

The tackle situation ain't much better. If Tunsil keeps his nose clean then you have the most important position on the line locked up. Add in Pouncey at center and that'd a great start. But obviously there is a risk with Tunsil but at 13 I don't think Miami had much of choice based on needs. I think 13 was too high for Lee and too high for any other CB after Hargreaves went to the Bucs. Jack fell because of injury and he likely won't play this year.

Now Zbrod will tell you that Jack himself told people that he had to have surgery, for some reason it makes his knee injury magically disappear.

Myles Jack admits he could eventually need microfracture surgery on knee - CBSSports.com he said it

 

[Zbrod95]

The people arguing for a LB over a possible All-Pro left tackle obviously don't know football. The fins have made bad move after bad move but with the amount of money they have invested in Tannehill they need to protect him .The OL has been **** for years. Did you guys not watch Miami last year? They couldn't protect Tannehill or open up any holes in the run game. The OL getting fixed should be their #1 priority.

So you fix the guard problems with tackles?? Again refer to Greg Robinson and the Rams

Or refer to Zack Martin

you mean the same guy that everyone said would be an all-pro guard coming out?? Hmmm didn't hear that about Greg Robinson coming out

Robinson was a reach then and still is now. The fact that you mention his name with Tunsil's is hilarious.

or he's mentioned in the same sentence because Tunsil's going to probably play guard just like he did his first year but please continue the notion that I'm comparing them skill wise because is not like I've acknowledged how he's the most talented player in this draft numerous times or anything.

 

[Pizzle]

And the Fins can still snag him in the top half of the second. Great player, would love to have him if healthy but he comes with a risk just like Tunsil albeit for different reasons. But I can't fault the Fins for at least trying to fix their biggest issue which was the OL last year.

but how's is drafting a tackle going to improve the guard situation?? You're going to improve the line by playing a guy who never played Guard before there or putting a guy there that hasn't played there in 12 years

The tackle situation ain't much better. If Tunsil keeps his nose clean then you have the most important position on the line locked up. Add in Pouncey at center and that'd a great start. But obviously there is a risk with Tunsil but at 13 I don't think Miami had much of choice based on needs. I think 13 was too high for Lee and too high for any other CB after Hargreaves went to the Bucs. Jack fell because of injury and he likely won't play this year.

Now Zbrod will tell you that Jack himself told people that he had to have surgery, for some reason it makes his knee injury magically disappear.

Myles Jack admits he could eventually need microfracture surgery on knee - CBSSports.com he said it

I believe that he said it, I just don't see how him saying it makes the injury any better.

 

[Pizzle]

So you fix the guard problems with tackles?? Again refer to Greg Robinson and the Rams

Or refer to Zack Martin

you mean the same guy that everyone said would be an all-pro guard coming out?? Hmmm didn't hear that about Greg Robinson coming out

Robinson was a reach then and still is now. The fact that you mention his name with Tunsil's is hilarious.

or he's mentioned in the same sentence because Tunsil's going to probably play guard just like he did his first year but please continue the notion that I'm comparing them skill wise because your comprehension skills suck

The fact that Tunsil is bringing way more talent into the switch means nothing to you?

 

[Zbrod95]

but how's is drafting a tackle going to improve the guard situation?? You're going to improve the line by playing a guy who never played Guard before there or putting a guy there that hasn't played there in 12 years

The tackle situation ain't much better. If Tunsil keeps his nose clean then you have the most important position on the line locked up. Add in Pouncey at center and that'd a great start. But obviously there is a risk with Tunsil but at 13 I don't think Miami had much of choice based on needs. I think 13 was too high for Lee and too high for any other CB after Hargreaves went to the Bucs. Jack fell because of injury and he likely won't play this year.

Now Zbrod will tell you that Jack himself told people that he had to have surgery, for some reason it makes his knee injury magically disappear.

Myles Jack admits he could eventually need microfracture surgery on knee - CBSSports.com he said it

I believe that he said it, I just don't see how him saying it makes the injury any better.

It's not about the injury or even about how they didn't take him pizzle, read everything I've posted. he is going to play this year at some point he isn't a Jaylen Smith situation where it's total knee is destroyed. they're worried his knee won't hold up. When he plays he's an instant upgrade over Koa Misi and if you don't want to take him then fine MAKE A MOVE THAT MAKES THE TEAM BETTER...trade down draft a corner, Linebacker, or Guard or at least a tackle that translates to guard like Germain Ifedi and stockpile picks and turn Laremy Tunsil into two or three players that start like Reggie Ragland or Mackenzie Alexander or whoever they seeing starting next year instead of drafting a LT that has a potential to be a top 10 LT with character issues and playing him out of position. Not including he hasn't even played a full season at ole miss

 

[Zbrod95]

Or refer to Zack Martin

you mean the same guy that everyone said would be an all-pro guard coming out?? Hmmm didn't hear that about Greg Robinson coming out

Robinson was a reach then and still is now. The fact that you mention his name with Tunsil's is hilarious.

or he's mentioned in the same sentence because Tunsil's going to probably play guard just like he did his first year but please continue the notion that I'm comparing them skill wise because your comprehension skills suck

The fact that Tunsil is bringing way more talent into the switch means nothing to you?

talent wasn't the issue with Greg Robinson..technique was

 

[CanesFan93]

So you fix the guard problems with tackles?? Again refer to Greg Robinson and the Rams

Or refer to Zack Martin

you mean the same guy that everyone said would be an all-pro guard coming out?? Hmmm didn't hear that about Greg Robinson coming out

Robinson was a reach then and still is now. The fact that you mention his name with Tunsil's is hilarious.

or he's mentioned in the same sentence because Tunsil's going to probably play guard just like he did his first year but please continue the notion that I'm comparing them skill wise because is not like I've acknowledged how he's the most talented player in this draft numerous times or anything.

My comprehension skills are fine. Your's on the other hand may not be. You clearly said " because that same move worked out SO WELL the Greg Robinson and the Rams right??" indicating that you think the Dolphins may end up in the same situation as the Rams moving Robinson to OG where he was bad.

 

[Zbrod95]

Or refer to Zack Martin

you mean the same guy that everyone said would be an all-pro guard coming out?? Hmmm didn't hear that about Greg Robinson coming out

Robinson was a reach then and still is now. The fact that you mention his name with Tunsil's is hilarious.

or he's mentioned in the same sentence because Tunsil's going to probably play guard just like he did his first year but please continue the notion that I'm comparing them skill wise because is not like I've acknowledged how he's the most talented player in this draft numerous times or anything.

My comprehension skills are fine. Your's on the other hand may not be. You clearly said " because that same move worked out SO WELL the Greg Robinson and the Rams right??" indicating that you think the Dolphins may end up in the same situation as the Rams moving Robinson to OG where he was bad.

Yea and you ended with "The fact that you mention his name with Tunsil's is hilarious" thinking that I'm trying to compare their talent level...