Kyle Wright's Dad

[Canesfan1899]

I think Kyle could have been so much better.

Agree to an extent but he was done as soon as soon as he started seeing the rush! He was a deer in headlights and it was over.


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[INCaneFan]

Kyle was the top HS QB and our next 1st round QB during recruiting, my first concerned with him was during the Army all american game where he was awful, couldn't connect, couldn't move the chains. At the time I thought that once at Miami all that would be fixed....

Yea, I remember that game. I was thinking, "how in the **** is this kid the no.1 QB in the country?" But I figured jitters, and not being familiar with the WR's, was to blame. I was like, "Once he gets down to Miami and get some REAL college coaching, he's gonna straighten it out." ****, was I dumb.

He wasn't, Leak was. Leak certainly showed it in that game as well. Kyle showed what he had, a big arm and that's it. He didn't have any touch on his ball ever here. He also was erratic with his accuracy. A big arm will get you where he was, but he didn't have any of the other components to make it at this level. No shame in that either, 99.99 percent of high school quarterbacks never get as far as he did. He was given a shot, it didn't work out, but he's still a Cane.

 

[Waterfall]

There is a whole host of people on this board who blame Wright's awfulness on everybody but Wright. It's the fault of his WRs, his OLs, Coker, Shannon or having to play under 3 (4?) different OCs in his career. Yeah, even though his awful play largely caused a head coach and several different OCs to get fired. If he didn't want to keep changing OCs and/or HCs every year he shouldn't have been such a lazy and awful player. It's largely his own fault he had to keep learning new offensive systems.

 

[Waterfall]

Crazy that was 10 years ago.

And we thought that was bad. Man, we really didn't know what was coming. I sure as **** didn't.

What's really bizarre is that we fired half the staff for consecutive 3 loss seasons. And perhaps not coincidentally the program really fell apart after that.

In the 10 seasons since that staff purge we've had at least 4 losses every year.

Law of unintended consequences I guess.

 

[BoxingRobes]

I think Kyle could have been so much better.

I think you're letting the stars effect your judgment. He was awful. There was nothing there. Absolutely nothing.

 

[Waterfall]

I think Kyle could have been so much better.

I think you're letting the stars effect your judgment. He was awful. There was nothing there. Absolutely nothing.

And my understanding is that he only got recruiting stars because Miami was recruiting him.

 

[Coach Macho]

I was watching a bunch of highlights of the 2004 and 2005 seasons on YouTube last night.

I remember thinking that we sucked back then, yet we were still nationally ranked. I could've never envisioned that we would get this bad.

 

[ssj4cane]

I think Kyle could have been so much better.

I think you're letting the stars effect your judgment. He was awful. There was nothing there. Absolutely nothing.

And my understanding is that he only got recruiting stars because Miami was recruiting him.

That's not true. KW was the prototype HS QB. He was offered by everyone and miami fans were pumped when he committed. Sadly his lasting legacy is KW to UM.

 

[Pearson704]

Funny how people here love to blame Donna, but she wanted to hire Barry Alvarez to run the program and likely succeed Paul Dee. How many championships could we have won with a real coach? Nah, Donna being the student's President and supportive leader she is let the kids and Paul Dee get what they wanted. Now she catches the all **** for everything that came after. Like she was clueless..

How soon we forget.

 

[Waterfall]

Funny how people here love to blame Donna, but she wanted to hire Barry Alvarez to run the program and likely succeed Paul Dee. How many championships could we have won with a real coach? Nah, Donna being the student's President and supportive leader she is let the kids and Paul Dee get what they wanted. Now she catches the all **** for everything that came after. Like she was clueless..

How soon we forget.

Alvarez retired from Wisconsin after about the 2004 or 2005 season. I've always wondered why some people think he would have remained coach any longer than that at Miami. If anything he might have retired earlier at Miami because he'd feel less loyalty to a place he'd been for such a short time.

Anyways, I'm not sure I think that Alvarez or anybody else would be willing to leave for Miami a week before Signing Day. Donna may have been interested in Alvarez but was Alvarez interested in Miami?

I think we were backed into a corner with how late Davis departed a lot more than anybody will admit.

What they should have done is made Coker the coach for a year or 2 and then found a long term coach. There are other examples of teams doing this such as Arkansas Ohio state and now Baylor. And based on the results it seems that Coker was the right coach for the 01 team. Long term is a different issue.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Last good defense we had.

Who was the DC again...?

That was an excellent defense. Light years above the garbage Golden was throwing out there.

Our options were to either hire Randy or let him go. With those excellent defenses he was putting out and that he was a true Cane, he was an obvious choice to be our HC. Would love to have him back as DC again.

Randy was in no way qualified to be the HC of a program that was a few years removed from a national championship. That was a horrible decision that set this program back years.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

Last good defense we had.

Who was the DC again...?

That was an excellent defense. Light years above the garbage Golden was throwing out there.

Our options were to either hire Randy or let him go. With those excellent defenses he was putting out and that he was a true Cane, he was an obvious choice to be our HC. Would love to have him back as DC again.

Randy was in no way qualified to be the HC of a program that was a few years removed from a national championship. That was a horrible decision that set this program back years.

To say he was "in no way qualified" is ridiculously disingenuous. He was one of the premier defense coordinators at that time and was on the verge of getting a head coaching job somewhere. Considering the hiring history of the university, he was a reasonable choice. He didn't set us back nearly what Al Golden did, you forget what he inherited.

 

[MedleyCane]

Last good defense we had.

Who was the DC again...?

That was an excellent defense. Light years above the garbage Golden was throwing out there.

Our options were to either hire Randy or let him go. With those excellent defenses he was putting out and that he was a true Cane, he was an obvious choice to be our HC. Would love to have him back as DC again.

Randy was in no way qualified to be the HC of a program that was a few years removed from a national championship. That was a horrible decision that set this program back years.

To say he was "in no way qualified" is ridiculously disingenuous. He was one of the premier defense coordinators at that time and was on the verge of getting a head coaching job somewhere. Considering the hiring history of the university, he was a reasonable choice. He didn't set us back nearly what Al Golden did, you forget what he inherited.

He was a good DC, not great and to speculate that he was on the verge of landing a HC job somewhere at a comparable program to UM is highly
speculative.
Please don't start this stupid discussion again.

And Shalala was the ultimate culprit for destroying this program on and off the field with the Shapiro stuff
and poor hiring decisions.
She was a disaster - a plague to UM athletics - and that is where the focus should lie when discussing downfall of program.

 

[Waterfall]

Last good defense we had.

Who was the DC again...?

That was an excellent defense. Light years above the garbage Golden was throwing out there.

Our options were to either hire Randy or let him go. With those excellent defenses he was putting out and that he was a true Cane, he was an obvious choice to be our HC. Would love to have him back as DC again.

Randy was in no way qualified to be the HC of a program that was a few years removed from a national championship. That was a horrible decision that set this program back years.

To say he was "in no way qualified" is ridiculously disingenuous. He was one of the premier defense coordinators at that time and was on the verge of getting a head coaching job somewhere. Considering the hiring history of the university, he was a reasonable choice. He didn't set us back nearly what Al Golden did, you forget what he inherited.

Randy really didn't take over that long after the early 00 glory days and I really don't think the program was that hard to rebuild at that point. He was able to land a #1 recruiting class in a large part because the recruits actually had seen the 00-02 teams. By the time Golden became coach the better days were far enough behind that he probably couldn't recruit off them. I don't really know if Shannon or Golden inherited the better roster but Shannon actually had recruits who could remember the glory days.

I agree with you that Shannon should have been retained as DC but making him HC was an awful idea. I've never heard of any other school considering Shannon as HC before we promoted him. How could they have promoted him after they saw his inability to speak English? On the other hand Golden was a fairly hot HC prospect that had interviewed at UCLA, Tennessee and perhaps some other schools. In addition the school actually did a fairly wide coaching search before they hired Golden. All the school did in the 06 search was try to hire Schiano and then hire Shannon when that failed.

I'm not saying Golden was any better of a coach than Shannon, I'm just saying that his resume at the time of hiring was more defensible.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

That was an excellent defense. Light years above the garbage Golden was throwing out there.

Our options were to either hire Randy or let him go. With those excellent defenses he was putting out and that he was a true Cane, he was an obvious choice to be our HC. Would love to have him back as DC again.

Randy was in no way qualified to be the HC of a program that was a few years removed from a national championship. That was a horrible decision that set this program back years.

To say he was "in no way qualified" is ridiculously disingenuous. He was one of the premier defense coordinators at that time and was on the verge of getting a head coaching job somewhere. Considering the hiring history of the university, he was a reasonable choice. He didn't set us back nearly what Al Golden did, you forget what he inherited.

He was a good DC, not great and to speculate that he was on the verge of landing a HC job somewhere at a comparable program to UM is highly
speculative.
Please don't start this stupid discussion again.

And Shalala was the ultimate culprit for destroying this program on and off the field with the Shapiro stuff
and poor hiring decisions.
She was a disaster - a plague to UM athletics - and that is where the focus should lie when discussing downfall of program.

I've never had this debate before. Shannon was not a good DC, he was an elite DC the numbers speak for themselves. If you were actively saying at the time of the hire that he was a poor choice and had other options in mind, then more power to you. Shannon was a popular hire, just like Coker and Golden were. You can blame Donna all you want, the poorest of the intellect need a scapegoat and you found yours, so please carry on. I mean our new president was on the verge of hiring Schiano until Richt fell into our laps. That would've been a disaster.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Our options were to either hire Randy or let him go. With those excellent defenses he was putting out and that he was a true Cane, he was an obvious choice to be our HC. Would love to have him back as DC again.

Randy was in no way qualified to be the HC of a program that was a few years removed from a national championship. That was a horrible decision that set this program back years.

To say he was "in no way qualified" is ridiculously disingenuous. He was one of the premier defense coordinators at that time and was on the verge of getting a head coaching job somewhere. Considering the hiring history of the university, he was a reasonable choice. He didn't set us back nearly what Al Golden did, you forget what he inherited.

He was a good DC, not great and to speculate that he was on the verge of landing a HC job somewhere at a comparable program to UM is highly
speculative.
Please don't start this stupid discussion again.

And Shalala was the ultimate culprit for destroying this program on and off the field with the Shapiro stuff
and poor hiring decisions.
She was a disaster - a plague to UM athletics - and that is where the focus should lie when discussing downfall of program.

I've never had this debate before. Shannon was not a good DC, he was an elite DC the numbers speak for themselves. If you were actively saying at the time of the hire that he was a poor choice and had other options in mind, then more power to you. Shannon was a popular hire, just like Coker and Golden were. You can blame Donna all you want, the poorest of the intellect need a scapegoat and you found yours, so please carry on. I mean our new president was on the verge of hiring Schiano until Richt fell into our laps. That would've been a disaster.

You are delusional and living in a bubble if you really think the Shannon hire was "popular". Fans were not happy at all with the hire. I distinctly remember the reaction on multiple message boards including Grassy (Scout) which was the most visited UM Football message board at the time. Our fans were practically jumping off of bridges because of how ridiculously stupid it was to hire a coach from the staff that just ran the best CFB program in the country into the ground.

 

[Waterfall]

Of course Schiano would have been a disaster. In fact just about every name rumored for the job except for Butch would have been a disaster. I'm not even going to bother guessing how much consideration most of those people were given for the Miami HC job. I wasn't a Bring Back Butch person to begin with but became one after I saw the other names that were being rumored.

But that only shows the admin's incompetence when Schiano is the top option and most of the other people rumored are even worse.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

That was an excellent defense. Light years above the garbage Golden was throwing out there.

Our options were to either hire Randy or let him go. With those excellent defenses he was putting out and that he was a true Cane, he was an obvious choice to be our HC. Would love to have him back as DC again.

Randy was in no way qualified to be the HC of a program that was a few years removed from a national championship. That was a horrible decision that set this program back years.

To say he was "in no way qualified" is ridiculously disingenuous. He was one of the premier defense coordinators at that time and was on the verge of getting a head coaching job somewhere. Considering the hiring history of the university, he was a reasonable choice. He didn't set us back nearly what Al Golden did, you forget what he inherited.

Randy really didn't take over that long after the early 00 glory days and I really don't think the program was that hard to rebuild at that point. He was able to land a #1 recruiting class in a large part because the recruits actually had seen the 00-02 teams. By the time Golden became coach the better days were far enough behind that he probably couldn't recruit off them. I don't really know if Shannon or Golden inherited the better roster but Shannon actually had recruits who could remember the glory days.

I agree with you that Shannon should have been retained as DC but making him HC was an awful idea. I've never heard of any other school considering Shannon as HC before we promoted him. How could they have promoted him after they saw his inability to speak English? On the other hand Golden was a fairly hot HC prospect that had interviewed at UCLA, Tennessee and perhaps some other schools. In addition the school actually did a fairly wide coaching search before they hired Golden. All the school did in the 06 search was try to hire Schiano and then hire Shannon when that failed.

I'm not saying Golden was any better of a coach than Shannon, I'm just saying that his resume at the time of hiring was more defensible.

Of the many reasons I hate Al Golden -- he was so awful that we have fans like hughhoney who forget just what a disaster the Shannon hire was simply because he was marginally less awful than Golden.

 

[Waterfall]

Our options were to either hire Randy or let him go. With those excellent defenses he was putting out and that he was a true Cane, he was an obvious choice to be our HC. Would love to have him back as DC again.

Randy was in no way qualified to be the HC of a program that was a few years removed from a national championship. That was a horrible decision that set this program back years.

To say he was "in no way qualified" is ridiculously disingenuous. He was one of the premier defense coordinators at that time and was on the verge of getting a head coaching job somewhere. Considering the hiring history of the university, he was a reasonable choice. He didn't set us back nearly what Al Golden did, you forget what he inherited.

Randy really didn't take over that long after the early 00 glory days and I really don't think the program was that hard to rebuild at that point. He was able to land a #1 recruiting class in a large part because the recruits actually had seen the 00-02 teams. By the time Golden became coach the better days were far enough behind that he probably couldn't recruit off them. I don't really know if Shannon or Golden inherited the better roster but Shannon actually had recruits who could remember the glory days.

I agree with you that Shannon should have been retained as DC but making him HC was an awful idea. I've never heard of any other school considering Shannon as HC before we promoted him. How could they have promoted him after they saw his inability to speak English? On the other hand Golden was a fairly hot HC prospect that had interviewed at UCLA, Tennessee and perhaps some other schools. In addition the school actually did a fairly wide coaching search before they hired Golden. All the school did in the 06 search was try to hire Schiano and then hire Shannon when that failed.

I'm not saying Golden was any better of a coach than Shannon, I'm just saying that his resume at the time of hiring was more defensible.

Of the many reasons I hate Al Golden -- he was so awful that we have fans like hughhoney who forget just what a disaster the Shannon hire was simply because he was marginally less awful than Golden.

While I realize it's a useless comparison, I'm actually tempted to call Shannon worse than Golden. If only because Golden followed Shannon while Shannon followed a sort of real head coach in Coker.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

Randy was in no way qualified to be the HC of a program that was a few years removed from a national championship. That was a horrible decision that set this program back years.

To say he was "in no way qualified" is ridiculously disingenuous. He was one of the premier defense coordinators at that time and was on the verge of getting a head coaching job somewhere. Considering the hiring history of the university, he was a reasonable choice. He didn't set us back nearly what Al Golden did, you forget what he inherited.

He was a good DC, not great and to speculate that he was on the verge of landing a HC job somewhere at a comparable program to UM is highly
speculative.
Please don't start this stupid discussion again.

And Shalala was the ultimate culprit for destroying this program on and off the field with the Shapiro stuff
and poor hiring decisions.
She was a disaster - a plague to UM athletics - and that is where the focus should lie when discussing downfall of program.

I've never had this debate before. Shannon was not a good DC, he was an elite DC the numbers speak for themselves. If you were actively saying at the time of the hire that he was a poor choice and had other options in mind, then more power to you. Shannon was a popular hire, just like Coker and Golden were. You can blame Donna all you want, the poorest of the intellect need a scapegoat and you found yours, so please carry on. I mean our new president was on the verge of hiring Schiano until Richt fell into our laps. That would've been a disaster.

You are delusional and living in a bubble if you really think the Shannon hire was "popular". Fans were not happy at all with the hire. I distinctly remember the reaction on multiple message boards including Grassy (Scout) which was the most visited UM Football message board at the time. Our fans were practically jumping off of bridges because of how ridiculously stupid it was to hire a coach from the staff that just ran the best CFB program in the country into the ground.

Accuses me of living in a bubble and then cites message board responses indicating that fans were not happy, ok. Well my perception from fellow alumni, fans, those that attend games was the opposite. It's not worth debating, really. Having hindsight is easy. If Richt were to fail I can say how I remember how CanesInsight went crazy because we just hired someone who was fired for not being able to win the big games in his career. We can paint the past however we'd like.