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htownkidd said:
I’m indifferent on him honestly.



Do I think we would take a significant step in year 2 under him with better personnel and more familiarity with the system etc? Absolutely. IIRC, we haven’t had a blown coverage since VT? As sad as it is, that’s improvement because it literally happened every game before that. There have been several instances where IMO, we just didn’t have the guys. FSU for example, they are running counter and their OL is getting to the 2nd level consistently and instead of Flagg/Smith stepping up and shortening the distance and taking on those blockers and disengaging to disrupt the play, they would shy up and just get completely absorbed. I won’t even mention 0 letting that happen a few times that game as well. I’ve said it all season in **** near every game thread, we have absolutely zero resistance on the 2nd level and it has killed us. I’ve seen improvements at times and us bow up and make plays at crucial times but I’ve also seen us NOT make adjustments and get bullied at the worst times too (Duke). I can count on one hand how many times we have stopped the QB draw successfully when it has been ran on us 25+ times easily. We still leave the flats completely vacant far too many times which is something I will never understand. The passiveness at times confuses me because Steele historically has been extremely aggressive but at the same time I get it because of our CBs and their inability to run + the confusion on the backend that we have had far too often. YES, that is ultimately on him but again, I haven’t seen that happen since VT so there is improvement there (unlike the other side)



If we could get a clear no brainer improvement at DC then I’d be all for it, 100%. But in Y2 in a system with better players and the offense *hopefully* not being **** poor and putting them in pitiful situations, we will be much much better.



The Duke game is one we will always remember because of the 45 score when in reality, one of those scores was a pick 6 and 3 of the scores they started what, within our 25 because of the offense?



Again, some of the stuff we have seen from that side of the ball this year has been poor but I have also seen some stuff that had me encouraged. I am not giving him a B+, probably a B- at best if we are being honest and I cut him and the defense some slack due to the disadvantageous situations that they were put in often by the offense. We have some guys on that side though who HAVE developed and who HAVE played extremely well at times and Y2 in the same system with better players around them will really benefit them so . Again, if we can get a clear upgrade I would be all for it but if we kept Steele I wouldn’t be upset either.





PS - please come back Akheem.
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I can support this. I was highly unimpressed with our physicality. We seemed undisciplined, tackling didn't improve and we gave up a ton of blown coverages. How much of that is on Steele is hard to gauge in 1 year. If he returns we better have vast improvement in those areas.

P.S. FSU game we had a blown coverage. I didn't really watch Clemson game but I saw Ivey get dusted not sure whose fault it was.
 
cway313 said:
I can support this. I was highly unimpressed with our physicality. We seemed undisciplined, tackling didn't improve and we gave up a ton of blown coverages. How much of that is on Steele is hard to gauge in 1 year. If he returns we better have vast improvement in those areas.

P.S. FSU game we had a blown coverage. I didn't really watch Clemson game but I saw Ivey get dusted not sure whose fault it was.
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The tackling at times, or lack of, definitely stands out for sure. I definitely should have mentioned that but again I can see better players improving that overall. The main culprits for the consistent bad/weak tackling, at least based on what I have seen and can remember are the same bunch…James, Blades, K. Smith, Flagg from time to time, and Steed before the unfortunate injury and he is going to lose the battle vs RBs and TEs 90% of the time anyway due to physical limitations anyway. James is just a soft player, all it really boils down to IMO. Yes, every defender who plays significant minutes has probably missed a tackle at some point but that happens everywhere. I’m talking about the guys we scream at in the game thread evert Saturday. James just appears to be a soft guy in general. I don’t want to throw the uncoachable label on him but I can count on one hand how many times I have seen his tall *** break down and wrap up. Why can’t he do that more often? Who knows. I can’t explain him really any other way. I am nitpicking, but we have guys that are tackling just fine as well on the 2nd and 3rd level too so whose to blame? (Rhetorical)

I don’t remember the blown coverage vs FSU but you could be right. If it happened, it wasn’t as blatant as the ones early in the season and those were the types that I was referring to. Yes, still bad nonetheless but I can’t see all that not being improved for the reasons I mentioned above and you know me, I’m not sugar coating and koolaid drinking shiet.

Don’t recall any blown coverages vs Clemson. If you saw Ivey getting dusted then that was likely just that lol, mans can’t run worth a fvck and it may look like a blown coverage lol.

Again, agree with you on all of that. All of those things you mentioned showed up and showed up too much for our liking but I saw enough on the flip side to where IMO, it can and will be much better with more reps/familiarity and better guys at those spots.

Now will those other guys get those reps when it matters next year? That’s a conversation for another day that I’m sure this board will discuss 7484848 times before September lol.
 
htownkidd said:
The tackling at times, or lack of, definitely stands out for sure. I definitely should have mentioned that but again I can see better players improving that overall. The main culprits for the consistent bad/weak tackling, at least based on what I have seen and can remember are the same bunch…James, Blades, K. Smith, Flagg from time to time, and Steed before the unfortunate injury and he is going to lose the battle vs RBs and TEs 90% of the time anyway due to physical limitations anyway. James is just a soft player, all it really boils down to IMO. Yes, every defender who plays significant minutes has probably missed a tackle at some point but that happens everywhere. I’m talking about the guys we scream at in the game thread evert Saturday. James just appears to be a soft guy in general. I don’t want to throw the uncoachable label on him but I can count on one hand how many times I have seen his tall *** break down and wrap up. Why can’t he do that more often? Who knows. I can’t explain him really any other way. I am nitpicking, but we have guys that are tackling just fine as well on the 2nd and 3rd level too so whose to blame? (Rhetorical)

I don’t remember the blown coverage vs FSU but you could be right. If it happened, it wasn’t as blatant as the ones early in the season and those were the types that I was referring to. Yes, still bad nonetheless but I can’t see all that not being improved for the reasons I mentioned above and you know me, I’m not sugar coating and koolaid drinking shiet.

Don’t recall any blown coverages vs Clemson. If you saw Ivey getting dusted then that was likely just that lol, mans can’t run worth a fvck and it may look like a blown coverage lol.

Again, agree with you on all of that. All of those things you mentioned showed up and showed up too much for our liking but I saw enough on the flip side to where IMO, it can and will be much better with more reps/familiarity and better guys at those spots.

Now will those other guys get those reps when it matters next year? That’s a conversation for another day that I’m sure this board will discuss 7484848 times before September lol.
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cway313 said:
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cway313 said:
We are a terrible undisciplined team. The offense sucks but the defense being less sucky is a terrible way to cope. Nothing is different on defense from last year. Nothing is improved. We got 6-6 330lb Darrell Jackson covering the flats.
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We’re a dumpster fire on offense.

Ol’ Mild Steele = pb&j forever

But let’s put that 6 out in space narrative to bed. Kid actually made a heads up play & displayed good eyes in trying to get out into the boundary to snuff the play out.

Unfortunately for him ( & the fackin rest of us ) he was the only one awake on that play. Hence the chunk play & clumsy tape ( Roman goes into greater depth on the matter )

Fact is we play disjointed & overall just to individualistically in every facet. Including coaching ( offense is offensive ) regrettably. There’s a reason ol’ kev was coaching against Clemson & not for Clemson last week.

Our oline can’t communicate at all. It’s like they all speak different languages.

WR are still 2 beats from starting their breaks when qb1-3 plants their back foot ( soon to be planted )

Safetys & Corners ( see oline ) Bombs over Baghdad

Special Teams isn’t special. Even Aussie is just going through the motions. Borregales has been a bright spot.
 
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Punting has been a very strong point. How many 60 yarders and punts inside the 10 do you need to see? Steele came here because he believes in CMC, he truly wants to be a DC legend by bringing Miami defenses back from the depths, and I think he wanted to live here. I hope he retires from Miami in 10 years. We have 2 linebackers. Wait until Bryant gets here. Our DB's have had to cover and make up for the fact we are less than special at LB. Steele will get the players. He didn't get a recruiting cycle last year so he needs 2 classes. Any DC that would be here needs at least 2 more classes and transfers to contend for a NC. And when he does, look out Jack. Gonna be excitingly physical in 2 years. I can't wait to see who comes in the portal this year. And I would never miss watching a Miami game without a darn good reason. Beat Pitt. Go to a bowl.
 
canes732 said:
I’m not out on Steele he’s been a good to great DC at every stop and here at Miami would be his outlier bc Miami sucks. I would give him 1 more year max to prove it. Also allows Mario to full court press offensive staff
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Completely agree with all of this.
 
canadianhurricane said:
There will be some really good DCs looking for jobs in a few weeks.

Pete Goulding (Alabama) and Jeff Collins are 2 experienced, productive DCs, who also hold their own recruiting. Collins, who was recently let go at GT, actually recruited really well but wasn't given enough time to turn around that program. He signed Jahmyr Gibbs at GT, holding off P5s like Bama, Mich, UF, and aTm.

We have an opportunity to upgrade this offseason
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this is where im at. i dont think steele did a bad job this year, i just think we can find a better younger DC imo. id like some younger hungry assistants in there that will put in the time that mario requires for recruiting
 
hoops156 said:
this is where im at. i dont think steele did a bad job this year, i just think we can find a better younger DC imo. id like some younger hungry assistants in there that will put in the time that mario requires for recruiting
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canadianhurricane said:
There will be some really good DCs looking for jobs in a few weeks.

Pete Goulding (Alabama) and Jeff Collins are 2 experienced, productive DCs, who also hold their own recruiting. Collins, who was recently let go at GT, actually recruited really well but wasn't given enough time to turn around that program. He signed Jahmyr Gibbs at GT, holding off P5s like Bama, Mich, UF, and aTm.

We have an opportunity to upgrade this offseason
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Bama people have been complaining about Golding from the jump. I've been disappointed in the D this year, but no way in **** do I want that guy.
 
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Mackmiller974 said:
Finished with the 37th ranked defense allowing 365 Yards per game against D1 teams, not bad considering how terrible the offense has been
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Sometimes having an offense with more explosive plays can put the defense more on the field than on average. There were some games we moved the ball a lot but were awful in the red zone. Others…..well the others were record breaking Bad. Lol

If anything our defensive ranking is probably appropriate this year. Maybe would be a little better if our offense could actually move the ball in a few more games (borderline top 30).

I haven’t given up on Steele, yet. Too much prior success (including recent) and a good overall coach who can coach many positions.
 
Here's the thing, Steele has such a demonstrated history of success, I want him to stay install his system.

The OC? The results are in and he has left us wanting...
 
Folks wanted a young DC in Belk and he got 77 put on his top by Lashlee this year. Let Steele/Strong keep changing the intensity on the defensive side. Year 2 of Wesley and an above average Portal LB can do wonders for this defense.
 
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