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Just Winning is Not Enough

The goal should be to play well and win, avoid injuries, AND get the youngsters lots of playing time. Blowing out the other team is icing on the cake.
 
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OldhamA said:
We literally turned the FIU game into a scrimmage.

If that's not destruction, I don't know what is.
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Agreed. For someone to say that we couldn't even cover the spread against FIU is ridiculous. We chose not to because the coaches prioritized getting significant playing time for the freshmen and 2-4th string players, and to prevent injury given we had a short week before the next game. That game could have been 50-0 if that was what the coaches wanted.
 
DTP said:
I had this discussion after the FIU game. Right now, Miami is on the waaay outside looking in at any possible playoff scenario. Still it's not unthinkable that if they should manage to win the conference, they'll be in the discussion. Now do you think the playoff committee is going to look at that FIU game and say, "oh Miami was blowing them out but they pulled all the starters and allowed FIU to get back into the game"? Of course not. They're going to say "Miami won the conference but that nail biter against FIU is a black mark on their record." The committee, the AP voters and especially the coaches don't actually watch every game. They watch the headline games and rely on a box score for all the non marquee games.

We've had two opportunities to empty our bench and play every single third and fourth string player on the roster. It's conference season now so, let's leave those guys on the bench where they should be.
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If we beat Clemson in the ACCCG while going undefeated the rest of the way to get there, no voter will be looking at the FIU score. Maybe if Clemson crashed and burned during the season and BC won the Atlantic and we beat them, voters would give our other scores a second look. But if we beat Clemson, those scores don't matter, just whether we won.
 
dk72 said:
If we beat Clemson in the ACCCG while going undefeated the rest of the way to get there, no voter will be looking at the FIU score. Maybe if Clemson crashed and burned during the season and BC won the Atlantic and we beat them, voters would give our other scores a second look. But if we beat Clemson, those scores don't matter, just whether we won.
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We're assuming Clemson wins out and finishes the regular season as a top 3 team. There's not enough on this schedule to guarantee a playoff birth. "Tough" conference games against FSU, BC and VT are no longer impressive.

I'd rather not have to assume anything. You never know when the seemingly meaningless outcome of a game can affect the big picture. In 2000 Miami oddly struggled to beat a terrible Louisiana Tech team. At the time nobody thought much about it. It turned out to be the difference between playing for the championship against Oklahoma and playing in the Sugar Bowl. Yes, it's unlikely the results of the FIU game will impact the season but I'd still rather not take chances on it happening.
 
Miami should blow UNC out if the team executes like they are capable of. Maybe not by 40, but by enough margin to clearly know who the best team was.
 
Hurracanes said:
I don't think Miami is good enough to destroy any ACC team by 40. We can't even cover the spread vs. FIU. UNC always gives us a good game even when they suck. I think this will be a solid victory for us but we aren't crushing them. Let's continue building this momentum, play a good game, stay healthy and get ready for FSU.
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lol that we cant even cover the spread against FIU. we covered and would have easily covered had we kept in our reg starters. FIU didnt move the ball till we put in third and fourth stringers in the fourth. it sounds like you didnt even watch the FIU game, but keep on posting about it.
 
skyman said:
Not for the voters who just have time to look at scores.. Looks like we only put up 31 points and couldnt blow them out. Perception is reality
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I actually read a write up about Miami vs UNC where the guy called it a pedestrian effort vs FIU, so I agree.
 
Against UNC it’s always the refs.
Your gonna see them let a bunch of unc penalties slide and call us on some bs.
We should still win but the refs are going to not let it be a blow out.
Hope I’m wrong but just look at how they handled the shoe issue.
 
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Sorry, but anyone that thinks we did anything but trample FIU is clueless, they had 58 yards of offense through 3.5 quarters.
 
DTP said:
I had this discussion after the FIU game. Right now, Miami is on the waaay outside looking in at any possible playoff scenario. Still it's not unthinkable that if they should manage to win the conference, they'll be in the discussion. Now do you think the playoff committee is going to look at that FIU game and say, "oh Miami was blowing them out but they pulled all the starters and allowed FIU to get back into the game"? Of course not. They're going to say "Miami won the conference but that nail biter against FIU is a black mark on their record." The committee, the AP voters and especially the coaches don't actually watch every game. They watch the headline games and rely on a box score for all the non marquee games.

We've had two opportunities to empty our bench and play every single third and fourth string player on the roster. It's conference season now so, let's leave those guys on the bench where they should be.
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The thing is that an early season loss to a respectable team is not that big a deal. If we win out and beat Clemson (obviously a big "if") we'll be in it. People underestimate what 10 wins in a row on top of beating #2 can do for your resume.
 
dk72 said:
If we beat Clemson in the ACCCG while going undefeated the rest of the way to get there, no voter will be looking at the FIU score. Maybe if Clemson crashed and burned during the season and BC won the Atlantic and we beat them, voters would give our other scores a second look. But if we beat Clemson, those scores don't matter, just whether we won.
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If undefeated, scores wouldn't matter. We have a loss and need to impress, because there will be more 1 loss teams than undefeated teams, and we need to do something that elevates us over them. Close calls to bad teams won't do that.
 
DTP said:
I had this discussion after the FIU game. Right now, Miami is on the waaay outside looking in at any possible playoff scenario. Still it's not unthinkable that if they should manage to win the conference, they'll be in the discussion. Now do you think the playoff committee is going to look at that FIU game and say, "oh Miami was blowing them out but they pulled all the starters and allowed FIU to get back into the game"? Of course not. They're going to say "Miami won the conference but that nail biter against FIU is a black mark on their record." The committee, the AP voters and especially the coaches don't actually watch every game. They watch the headline games and rely on a box score for all the non marquee games.

We've had two opportunities to empty our bench and play every single third and fourth string player on the roster. It's conference season now so, let's leave those guys on the bench where they should be.
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I listen to 4 or 5 national college football daily radio shows on satellite, and they’ve all mentioned that we destroyed FIU and just gave up a couple garbage scores against our backups.
 
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The Franchise said:
You guys need to quit dreaming that this is a playoff team. We played one good team (not close to a great team), and got greased.

Try to be realistic this year, and it won’t hurt so much when reality happens.
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A good QB cures a lot of ills, my friend.

We almost made the playoffs last year, with crap QB play. If Perry plays well, we will be a better team in December this year than we were last year. That's a big step forward.
 
The Franchise said:
I listen to 4 or 5 national college football daily radio shows on satellite, and they’ve all mentioned that we destroyed FIU and just gave up a couple garbage scores against our backups.
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Knowledgeable college football folk know what we did to FIU. However, I am not convinced many of the voters are knowledgeable.
 
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