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Don Caneleone said:
What we need to understand about the Louisville team we lost to on 9/2 was that it was sooooooo so so so so average. Nothing about them wow'd me. Nada. Nil. Which obviously makes losing 31-13 to them even more depressing.
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Dudes are acting like that was the same veteran team that whipped us in December led by the same coaches that were there for 6 years in order to make themselves feel better about the beat down.

Wait till Petrino is there for awhile and gets his best player back. If you couldn't beat them on Monday then they'd wipe their asses with our faces in a couple months.
 
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The Franchise said:
We were crap in all 3 phases against a mediocre team. Again.

Enough of this "the offense was good enough to win" or"the defense was good enough to win". It's fcking loser talk. If either was dominant or even good enough, then you beat that UL team with all the advantages we had that night.
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My NINJA! +1000000
 
The D might be "better" compared to the last few years. Not saying much IMO. The problem I see the play calling on offense puts the D on the field too fast. The D soft play calling keeps them on the field too long. As the season goes on the D will be worn down more each game and we will see 500-600 yd given up . Sad for a program like ours.
 
Judgement is premature, nobody can tell how good Louisville`s O really is after week 1.
 
dont forget we looked "great/good" against u*** last year and we saw how inept they were...
 
I think the D looked good at Grassy as well.

This ISN'T the Louisville we'll be seeing in the future - they actually played pretty badly - RS Freshman QB, first year coaching turnover, etc.
 
UL's d was not that bad at all. Two of their dlinemen that were taking our lunch were pretty legit. I wouldn't be surprised if the *** de with the red hair makes an all ACC team at the end of this year.

Their O is a diff story. They missed a few opportunities, as did we. But they weren't the trash team you guys want to make them out to be. They also weren't the same from Dec, but better than average I'd say. ****, Herbie said they looked like a top 10 team.

This could end up being a very long season but it is still the first week. Let's see how we look over the next 3 games.
 
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jruiz said:
That we held louisville under 350 yards of offense. While I still have no idea what the **** tyriq mccord is doing covering a slot receiver, I guess i gotta applaud Dorito for not putting on an embarrassing performance. Might we indeed be #trending up on D?
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Don't worry. Al said the coaches were going to look at what they did wrong. I'm sure they will correct all defects and D will be in midseason >500 yards form soon.
 
Anybody pleased with Monday didn't watch the same game as I did. There may have been good individual performances in some plays, but the team looked like **** in every phase, on every play. We didn't hold them to under 400, they allowed themselves to be held to that. They missed TONS of 1st down plays and wide open receivers. I could go on and on, but it's just painful.

Coaching lost that game.
 
No. We've made backup, 3rd string freshman QBs look like Heisman candidates in the recent past. It was a solid, if not spectacular performance by the D.
CaneStuck@USF said:
Well when you consider they were missing their #1 RB, #1 WR, and were breaking in a new QB to a new system, it may explain those numbers a bit. I am looking for any positive signs, but I will reserve my judgement until I see how some other teams stack up against the Cards.
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So the QB was 20 of 28, yet you want me to believe under normal circumstances he would have completed way more passes? That's the way some of you are trying to make it sound. I've got news for you. When you are 20 of 28, you're not really getting a **** of a lot of drops and missed passes. Not as many as some of you are implying, at least. Trying to make it sound like he was 10 of 30 with 20 dropped passes is a bit disingenuous. How's he going to complete more than 8 more passes? Complete 30 in 28 attempts?
riceman said:
Anybody pleased with Monday didn't watch the same game as I did. There may have been good individual performances in some plays, but the team looked like **** in every phase, on every play. We didn't hold them to under 400, they allowed themselves to be held to that. They missed TONS of 1st down plays and wide open receivers. I could go on and on, but it's just painful.

Coaching lost that game.
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ThomasM said:
No. We've made backup, 3rd string freshman QBs look like Heisman candidates in the recent past. It was a solid, if not spectacular performance by the D.
CaneStuck@USF said:
Well when you consider they were missing their #1 RB, #1 WR, and were breaking in a new QB to a new system, it may explain those numbers a bit. I am looking for any positive signs, but I will reserve my judgement until I see how some other teams stack up against the Cards.
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Just because we have been historically bad defensively the last couple years doesn't mean that a bad performance against UL was "solid". What you've seen here the last few years shouldn't be the bar against which good defense is judged.
 
336 yards to UL. 95 coming on ONE drive. Lots more near the end of the game when we were dead beat. Where the game is won and lost, between those two, is where our D played really well, and the O stunk up the joint.

Let me ask you, if I told you before the game that UL would get 336 total yards, and 95 of it on one drive, would you expect a win or a loss? ANY kind of O and we win that game.

I remember at one point UL's average starting field position was like the 17. They just weren't moving the ball, and were losing the field possession battle. We did nothing with it. Nothing.
The Franchise said:
ThomasM said:
No. We've made backup, 3rd string freshman QBs look like Heisman candidates in the recent past. It was a solid, if not spectacular performance by the D.
CaneStuck@USF said:
Well when you consider they were missing their #1 RB, #1 WR, and were breaking in a new QB to a new system, it may explain those numbers a bit. I am looking for any positive signs, but I will reserve my judgement until I see how some other teams stack up against the Cards.
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Just because we have been historically bad defensively the last couple years doesn't mean that a bad performance against UL was "solid". What you've seen here the last few years shouldn't be the bar against which good defense is judged.
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ThomasM said:
So the QB was 20 of 28, yet you want me to believe under normal circumstances he would have completed way more passes? That's the way some of you are trying to make it sound. I've got news for you. When you are 20 of 28, you're not really getting a **** of a lot of drops and missed passes. Not as many as some of you are implying, at least. Trying to make it sound like he was 10 of 30 with 20 dropped passes is a bit disingenuous. How's he going to complete more than 8 more passes? Complete 30 in 28 attempts?
riceman said:
Anybody pleased with Monday didn't watch the same game as I did. There may have been good individual performances in some plays, but the team looked like **** in every phase, on every play. We didn't hold them to under 400, they allowed themselves to be held to that. They missed TONS of 1st down plays and wide open receivers. I could go on and on, but it's just painful.

Coaching lost that game.
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They missed an easy TD where bush was a good 1-2 seconds behind the receiver who was wide *** open about 7 yards from the endzone. Went through the guys hands and he had enough time to clench his fists and put them up to his head in disgust before Bush got there.

2-3 other easy *** drops for 1st downs. Maybe it's not 20 additional passes, but the defense was atrocious still, especially against a weaker opponent talent wise on their first game.

Check out the threads on here where we're in some weird *** bermuda triangle defense with no urgency while they're inside our 20, and it's 3rd and 2. LB-love triangle is 7 yds off the ball, Lville has 2 yards to get a first down. What. The. ****. Coaching.

Is the defense better than last year? Maybe, but they **** well should be we have legit players at some key positions. Coaching still holds us back. We should've raped that team, yet they're holding out AQM for whatever reason, not letting our guys get push, etc.
 
ThomasM said:
336 yards to UL. 95 coming on ONE drive. Lots more near the end of the game when we were dead beat. Where the game is won and lost, between those two, is where our D played really well, and the O stunk up the joint. Let me ask you, if I told you before the game that UL would get 336 total yards, and 95 of it on one drive, would you expect a win or a loss? ANY kind of O and we win that game. I remember at one point UL's average starting field position was like the 17. They just weren't moving the ball, and were losing the field possession battle. We did nothing with it. Nothing.
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riceman said:
ThomasM said:
So the QB was 20 of 28, yet you want me to believe under normal circumstances he would have completed way more passes? That's the way some of you are trying to make it sound. I've got news for you. When you are 20 of 28, you're not really getting a **** of a lot of drops and missed passes. Not as many as some of you are implying, at least. Trying to make it sound like he was 10 of 30 with 20 dropped passes is a bit disingenuous. How's he going to complete more than 8 more passes? Complete 30 in 28 attempts?
riceman said:
Anybody pleased with Monday didn't watch the same game as I did. There may have been good individual performances in some plays, but the team looked like **** in every phase, on every play. We didn't hold them to under 400, they allowed themselves to be held to that. They missed TONS of 1st down plays and wide open receivers. I could go on and on, but it's just painful.

Coaching lost that game.
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They missed an easy TD where bush was a good 1-2 seconds behind the receiver who was wide *** open about 7 yards from the endzone. Went through the guys hands and he had enough time to clench his fists and put them up to his head in disgust before Bush got there.

2-3 other easy *** drops for 1st downs. Maybe it's not 20 additional passes, but the defense was atrocious still, especially against a weaker opponent talent wise on their first game.

Check out the threads on here where we're in some weird *** bermuda triangle defense with no urgency while they're inside our 20, and it's 3rd and 2. LB-love triangle is 7 yds off the ball, Lville has 2 yards to get a first down. What. The. ****. Coaching.

Is the defense better than last year? Maybe, but they **** well should be we have legit players at some key positions. Coaching still holds us back. We should've raped that team, yet they're holding out AQM for whatever reason, not letting our guys get push, etc.
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He wasn't 7 yards away from the endzone. More like 35-40 because I remember seeing that green FG range line for their kicker on the screen.

There was only one other drop that would've resulted in a first down. First drive of the game. Stop making **** up to discredit a defense that doesn't need made up stats.
 
ThomasM said:
336 yards to UL. 95 coming on ONE drive. Lots more near the end of the game when we were dead beat. Where the game is won and lost, between those two, is where our D played really well, and the O stunk up the joint.

Let me ask you, if I told you before the game that UL would get 336 total yards, and 95 of it on one drive, would you expect a win or a loss? ANY kind of O and we win that game.

I remember at one point UL's average starting field position was like the 17. They just weren't moving the ball, and were losing the field possession battle. We did nothing with it. Nothing.
The Franchise said:
ThomasM said:
No. We've made backup, 3rd string freshman QBs look like Heisman candidates in the recent past. It was a solid, if not spectacular performance by the D.
CaneStuck@USF said:
Well when you consider they were missing their #1 RB, #1 WR, and were breaking in a new QB to a new system, it may explain those numbers a bit. I am looking for any positive signs, but I will reserve my judgement until I see how some other teams stack up against the Cards.
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Just because we have been historically bad defensively the last couple years doesn't mean that a bad performance against UL was "solid". What you've seen here the last few years shouldn't be the bar against which good defense is judged.
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There are screen shots of us playing some sort of 3 man trap on a referee on 3rd and 2. There are screen shots of us with 10 men on the field in crucial situations. There are screen shots of Louisville stacking the left side of their line with 6 guys and us lining up 3 guys in front of them on 3rd and short. Theres screen shots of McCord lined up covering slot WRs. The coaching and scheme that we run are mind boggling. If you are happy with that defensive performance, then thats part of the problem. We have become so accustomed to absolutely sucking that we are thrilled with a completely mediocre (at best) defensive performance against a lousy offense.
 
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