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Wash140in60 said:
Twenty fiveish yard throw from a collapsed pocket on the left hash to the right boundary? With a defender actively closing from less than 15 feet away? I think that throw would go for 6 the other way to be honest. Think Bandy vs Notre Dame in 17.
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Not if he throws it to the sideline like he should. The DB would literally have to go through our guy to get to the ball if it's thrown in the right location.

Also that's one of the cleanest looks Jarren got all night. Not much in his face at all.
 
Thanks OP;

It’s like we came to the buffet and said I’ll just have the salad, pls. I think what we saw was a kid in headlights, not a deer, but kid. Getting pressured and hit often will do that to u. He no longer trusted his progressions; once option A was covered, it was a wrap.

Get the OL play fixed, get Williams back in the game & we roll.

BUT, if come UNC we see the same thing, then we need to address this
 
JgDaCane said:
He’s running for his life in almost every one of those photos.
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Best pocket Jarren had all game. WR is running an In route against SOFT zone. Jarren took a sack. 34 seconds left.
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This dude does not see the field well.
 
TheChosenOne said:
Best pocket Jarren had all game. WR is running an In route against SOFT zone. Jarren took a sack. 34 seconds left.
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This dude does not see the field well.
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Lets be fair, it was his first start & he was running for his life most of the game. I think as the game slows down for him he will start seeing the field better.
 
Rome wasn’t built in a day nor too is a RS freshman QB playing in his first game, with huge implications. I think JDub will work diligently these next two weeks as will Coach Barry on the OL woes. I fear for UNC come 2 Saturday’s from now.
 
"this dude does not see the field well" combined with mental mistakes, eating the ball for sacks unnecessarily, not throwing out (afraid of turnover and loss of starting job"?") does not bode well...

OL not going to improve that much or faster, thankfully next opponents will have less stellar or able defenders on the attack.

Tate too short to scan the field and less accurate on the zip, Perry just off the mission at times, and our QB of the Future JW maybe gets Game-1 "good try guy almost did it" but he didn't win the job to bring us that. What a fine mess we have here Ollie. This could be a lonnnnnng year (I hope not.)
 
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TheChosenOne said:
Look at the right side of the field. That WR was so open. How do you roll to your right and still keep your eyes in the middle of the field the entire play.
Jarren played a lot worse then what we thought. I'll put it like this, if Jarren is just a check down charlie play someone else. 2 of our main WRs are speed guys.. trust the 1v1. Im not a Nkosi fan AT ALL, like AT ALL and I think he would of won this game just off the fact he would have taken risk.

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Pressure makes some pipes burst. That day the game got to Williams. No matter how much people try to state he didn't rattle. You start seeing guys running full blast at you. You start tossing **** out there or just start taking sacks.

Hopefully Enos gets him and the OL some help in this next game plan. So the kid doesn't turn into a what could've been.
 
TheChosenOne said:
Best pocket Jarren had all game. WR is running an In route against SOFT zone. Jarren took a sack. 34 seconds left.
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This dude does not see the field well.
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It appears Jarren is looking at the end zone (my guess is that JT4 is the primary receiver there but I can't see the full field). 2nd down is usually the down where you want to take a shot at the end zone. Miami has 1 TO and has to score a TD that drive. If he hits #2, maybe he picks up 1st or he gets stopped short and the clock runs, either way have to call TO or clock it.

This is one where a snapshot might not tell the whole story. You see lack of vision. It could be that or just indecisiveness. Williams might have seen #2 perfectly fine, but he was trying to hit endzone on 2nd down and locked into the receiver. That still frame could be him waiting for his primary to get open in the end zone.

If you are right and he doesn't see the field, it's worrisome. If I am right and he was waiting for his primary read because he was trying to win the game in one pass, then it's less worrisome as he is literally starting a college football game for the 1st time in his career. He can learn to manage game situations better and take what the defense is giving him.
 
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CivilianCane said:
"this dude does not see the field well" combined with mental mistakes, eating the ball for sacks unnecessarily, not throwing out (afraid of turnover and loss of starting job"?") does not bode well...

OL not going to improve that much or faster, thankfully next opponents will have less stellar or able defenders on the attack.

Tate too short to scan the field and less accurate on the zip, Perry just off the mission at times, and our QB of the Future JW maybe gets Game-1 "good try guy almost did it" but he didn't win the job to bring us that. What a fine mess we have here Ollie. This could be a lonnnnnng year (I hope not.)
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If special teams do their job, Miami wins. A QB in his first start against a legit defense turned the ball over ZERO times. No Williams was not Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence also did not start until game 5 last year, against a Syracuse defense ranked 116th against the pass. Florida's was ranked #12 in pass D by comparison. Tell me, which QBs debuting in an opener against a top 15 pass defense have done better than Williams?
 
jhtheking said:
Iirc this pocket collapsed almost instantly after this. He still should have thrown it to Osborn, but let’s not pretend he had all day here.
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You will never have forever back there. A clean pocket and an open receiver needs to be hit. Obviously it's just his first game so I'm not going to dog Jarren. He made some good throws but you don't have to make excuses for him either. He has to see that and make that throw in that situation. You can't ask the best OL to block for 10 seconds. The ball has to come out.
 
moshated305 said:
You will never have forever back there. A clean pocket and an open receiver needs to be hit. Obviously it's just his first game so I'm not going to dog Jarren. He made some good throws but you don't have to make excuses for him either. He has to see that and make that throw in that situation. You can't ask the best OL to block for 10 seconds. The ball has to come out.
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I agree, but I don't think this game is a good platform for deciding if Williams has "it" or not. If we'd opened against Furman, he probably throws 6 TDs and 350 yards, and we'd think he was the 2nd coming of Bernie Kosar. That would be a bad game to jump to a conclusion from as well. As it is, I saw a QB who was accurate and too cautious against a D that was #12 against pass last year. As far as negatives go, too cautious is a preferable trait for a defense-oriented team than reckless.

If Davis TD not called back on BS call, or Thomas catches the TD pass right on the money that even Diaz says should have been caught, or Thomas doesn't put ball on ground on punt return, we win the game and are singing the praise of the young QB who kept Miami in the game and never forced a risky throw to give the opponent a short field. Unfortunately the team needed Williams to put the team on his shoulders. Whether you think that's a fair ask for the kid is up to you. Personally, I expect the team to carry the QB in his first start (especially the TEs who are mismatches and the WR with NFL aspirations) , not the other way around.
 
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