Those 9 guys are in the NFL despite Folden. In a winning program, Perryman would have been a 1st rounder (Packers needed a ILB so they could move Matthews back to OLB, but passed on Perryman). In a winning program, Duke and Walford don't fall to the 3rd round. Or maybe Duke stays another year, gets his degree and moves up to the 1st round instead of choosing to flee a poorly run system after his junior year. Sorry, but I don't give Folden credit for any success these guys have achieved.