John Jancek

[Mico Jones]

[MENTION=7131]FullyERicht[/MENTION]

Will ask again: now that Aranda and Brown are gone, who is your guy or what's the short list?

Try to tconvince Bo Pelini or Bill Steckel out of their 200,000 small school HC gigs. There's Orlando, Justin Wilcox all of which I'd take over Jancek.

But so far Brown, Aranda,& Schiano were picked up by other schools. If we can't jump in the fray for names like those then all this talk of money and new admin culture is BS

 

[FullyERicht]

[MENTION=7131]FullyERicht[/MENTION]

Will ask again: now that Aranda and Brown are gone, who is your guy or what's the short list?

Honestly I don't see any remaining coaches that I am confident will have us playing elite defense. All of the best candidates were either hired elsewhere or promoted to HC.

Pruitt, Brown, Aranda, Schiano, and Steele were all available and hired elsewhere.

Odom, Durkin, Ash, Muschamp, all elevated to HC.

Chavis, Collins, Foster, Wommack are all unavailable.

What other proven DCs are left at this point? I think most fans understood that Richt had to hire a stud at the position, but there just isn't anyone who fits that description right now.

You could go with Orlando. You could go with Barnett or Chizik. But these guys are not the same level of a dude you would ideally have wanted.

You could go with a retread like Leavitt who hasn't done much lately, or guys who have been mediocre their whole careers like BVG and Jancek.

Reality is we aren't getting the kind of DC that I felt we needed to.

Check your best candidates list, by your logic a lot of them would be awful hires. You are now arguing in circles.

Every guy I named has field a top 10 defense within the last few years. Your dad, Corch Jancek, never has in his entire career.

 

[LuCane]

@FullyERicht

Will ask again: now that Aranda and Brown are gone, who is your guy or what's the short list?

Try to tconvince Bo Pelini or Bill Steckel out of their 200,000 small school HC gigs. There's Orlando, Justin Wilcox all of which I'd take over Jancek.

But so far Brown, Aranda,& Schiano were picked up by other schools. If we can't jump in the fray for names like those then all this talk of money and new admin culture is BS

Please no Bo Pelini.

We could always save the money and pay it to Rashad Gary.

 

[FullyERicht]

Honestly, at this point the safest bet is to hire Leavitt, but if he was a candidate he'd be hired already. I'd still be disappointed, but I also think he is a well established defensive coach that has at least shown he can run top units, even if not recently.

 

[Gi0logy]

[MENTION=7131]FullyERicht[/MENTION]

Will ask again: now that Aranda and Brown are gone, who is your guy or what's the short list?

Honestly I don't see any remaining coaches that I am confident will have us playing elite defense. All of the best candidates were either hired elsewhere or promoted to HC.

Pruitt, Brown, Aranda, Schiano, and Steele were all available and hired elsewhere.

Odom, Durkin, Ash, Muschamp, all elevated to HC.

Chavis, Collins, Foster, Wommack are all unavailable.

What other proven DCs are left at this point? I think most fans understood that Richt had to hire a stud at the position, but there just isn't anyone who fits that description right now.

You could go with Orlando. You could go with Barnett or Chizik. But these guys are not the same level of a dude you would ideally have wanted.

You could go with a retread like Leavitt who hasn't done much lately, or guys who have been mediocre their whole careers like BVG and Jancek.

Reality is we aren't getting the kind of DC that I felt we needed to.

You're more bipolar than a chick on her period.

Richt brings Thomas Brown and you start throwing a hissy fit because he's only coached for 5 years even though he's helped coach up some pretty **** good RBs.

Richt also brings in a dude from UGA to coach up Special Teams and you say he's playing favorites. He's coaching ST man, Special Effin Teams.

Richt hires Coach Kool and you're back on board slurping his nuts.

Richt still hasn't hired a DC and now you're throwing a tantrum saying "we aren't getting the kind of DC that I felt we needed to" even though you don't have an effing clue as to who we are hiring. Stop whining and let the man make his hires. He hasn't made a questionable hire yet. Just chill out, drink a glass of cranberry juice, and be patient.

 

[FullyERicht]

What DC is available that would qualify as an elite DC at this point?

I'm not going to just praise Richt for everything he does. That behavior makes no sense to me. The hires he makes that I like, I will praise the man. The ones that are subpar, I will be critical of. It's a message board. I'm a fan. If it makes you uncomfortable that I am not jerking off to everything the guy does, please put me on ignore.

 

[Mico Jones]

Jim Leavitt

 

[Gi0logy]

What DC is available that would qualify as an elite DC at this point?

I'm not going to just praise Richt for everything he does. That behavior makes no sense to me. The hires he makes that I like, I will praise the man. The ones that are subpar, I will be critical of. It's a message board. I'm a fan. If it makes you uncomfortable that I am not jerking off to everything the guy does, please put me on ignore.

The thing is he hasn't hired anyone at DC yet. So how can you critique something that does not exist yet?

 

[FullyERicht]

What DC is available that would qualify as an elite DC at this point?

I'm not going to just praise Richt for everything he does. That behavior makes no sense to me. The hires he makes that I like, I will praise the man. The ones that are subpar, I will be critical of. It's a message board. I'm a fan. If it makes you uncomfortable that I am not jerking off to everything the guy does, please put me on ignore.

The thing is he hasn't hired anyone at DC yet. So how can you critique something that does not exist yet?

I'm not. I'm critiquing other posters ideas for DC. Am I not allowed to be adverse to certain coaches?

If someone started a thread saying we should hire Pat Nix and let him call plays, would you scold those who said it was a terrible idea?

 

[Canezum5]

It seems like our board only brings up people who richt has fired

Tennessee defense looked good this year but I don't think this is our guy for the above mentioned reason

It "looks" good based on what? The one game versus Northwestern?

I remember people saying how nasty our defense looked against Duke last year, how "Al changed the defense".....when a team full of southern black dudes plays a nerd school with mostly white cats, it usually looks like that.

STANFORD

 

[Gi0logy]

What DC is available that would qualify as an elite DC at this point?

I'm not going to just praise Richt for everything he does. That behavior makes no sense to me. The hires he makes that I like, I will praise the man. The ones that are subpar, I will be critical of. It's a message board. I'm a fan. If it makes you uncomfortable that I am not jerking off to everything the guy does, please put me on ignore.

The thing is he hasn't hired anyone at DC yet. So how can you critique something that does not exist yet?

I'm not. I'm critiquing other posters ideas for DC. Am I not allowed to be adverse to certain coaches?

If someone started a thread saying we should hire Pat Nix and let him call plays, would you scold those who said it was a terrible idea?

You stated that Richt had to hire a stud as a DC then say there aren't any studs left. You also say we're not going to get a DC you felt we needed to. Therefore, in your opinion any hire Richt makes at the DC will be a poor hire.

I don't mind that you're unhappy about Thomas Brown and Todd Hartley. That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion even if I think you're overreacting. But how about we wait until Richt makes a DC hire before you start trashing it.

 

[FullyERicht]

But after looking at the current landscape and who has been hired, there is no great DC candidate out there left. That's my whole point.

People are discussing guys who have proven to be nothing more than average or mediocre. I'm not criticizing Richt, I'm criticizing those who feel it's ok to hire a guy like John freaking Jancek.

 

[clg003]

regardless its a "meh" move. all I heard is how we have big splash $ now. if thats true then give me a tidal wave.

Unfortunately I'm not sure there really is a tidal wave available now that Brown and Aranda got scooped, Pruitt went back to Bama, and all the other top DCs became HCs.

You're pretty much telling us that there were only 2 Dc's you feel that were worthy and or able to be a DC COach here at Miami... That is extremely shortsighted and lazy.

We hired an offensive HC, with the idea that he would also call plays. The entire premise it to hire an elite DC. If you fail to do that, then you failed. We aren't doing **** here with a defense in the 30s or 40s. It's just reality.

Now that Aranda and Brown are gone, who are the handful of DCs you'd accept?

your asking the most irrational guy on this board for a rational discussion. He lives to ***** and complain and any idea that pops up into his head is automatically 100xs more relevant than actual facts and the foremost experts opinions. smh

 

[jerzeycane]

What DC is available that would qualify as an elite DC at this point?

I'm not going to just praise Richt for everything he does. That behavior makes no sense to me. The hires he makes that I like, I will praise the man. The ones that are subpar, I will be critical of. It's a message board. I'm a fan. If it makes you uncomfortable that I am not jerking off to everything the guy does, please put me on ignore.

Breaking News: Elite DC is not required to produce elite defense

 

[ghost2]

I suspect we need to start scouring NFL coaching rosters for lb coaches with college DC experience. There are actually a lot...

 

[Gi0logy]

But after looking at the current landscape and who has been hired, there is no great DC candidate out there left. That's my whole point.

People are discussing guys who have proven to be nothing more than average or mediocre. I'm not criticizing Richt, I'm criticizing those who feel it's ok to hire a guy like John freaking Jancek.

If Manny Diaz is really the DC then feel free to criticize.

 

[ghost2]

Nevermind lol

 

[TemplarCane]

There aren't any elite DCs left based on rankings. Richt is either pulling someone from the NFL or taking a chance on someone with lesser credentials statistically but who he thinks will succeed at Miami. Richt managed to pull one of the best DL coaches in the country, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Coach Kool didn't come to Miami to change his style. Whomever the DC is will be someone with an aggressive scheme.

 

[wushah]

Why not a guy like Orgeron or Leavitt? Can't think of guys who would be better?

Jesus christ not this again......

Orgeron has never called a defense. EVER. He's like 70 and has never called a defense. He's also a DL coach, and we already have one of those, who is likely better than Orgeron.

Lol. You're like a confident clown which makes your commentary interesting for about one post. Orgeron is 54. Sure, he's never been a DC, but he has had extensive experience coaching the DL, has coached LBs, and was a head coach. He's also a good recruiter. If you don't think he could call a defense, so be it. Debatable.

It's a moot point now, so I could care less. Carry on.