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Jimbo Doesn't Like RPOs

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For you guys that are smarter than me, how do his complaints match up with what we are doing (running QB aside of course).

Article below and a link at the bottom to the article where there is video of him ranting..

Jimbo Fisher says Auburn won 'Kick Six' game vs. Bama with 'illegal' plays


Jimbo Fisher is a great offensive coach. We knew this long before he led Florida State to the national championship, but what many fans may not know is that he's great at teaching the game as well. Fisher regularly contributes to the Nike Coach of the Year clinics and is more than happy to "talk ball" when reporters know how to ask the right questions.

Fisher offered an unsolicited lesson on modern college offenses to reporters this week, explaining the conflict created by the run-pass option (RPOs) and quarterback runs. The college rules allow a lineman to be three yards upfield at the time of a pass, so a lineman has at least a few yards to fake a run block (freezing linebackers and safeties) while the quarterback waits for his receiver to get behind the defense. "It's why you're seeing scoring so high right now across the country," Fisher says.

"What they're doing on offense right now is illegal. Should never be part of football, and I'm an offensive guy," Fisher said. "When you can have a lineman go three yards down the field and it's a pass, there's something wrong with that."

Lineman can't get that far upfield in the NFL, so it's obvious why RPOs aren't as popular at the next level. Fisher points out that everyone thought the running quarterback would be the next craze, only to see the effects of extra hits take a toll on high-priced investments for franchises.

The entire presentation was great, then Fisher inadvertently made headlines for pointing out that those kind of option plays with lineman upfield "cost Alabama a national championship."

"When we played Auburn for the national championship, they had a lineman seven yards down the field on the pass they threw that tied it up before the "Kick Six." They would have never been there, should have been illegal," Fisher said. "Last year when they played Ole Miss on TV? Had lineman six yards down the field."

WATCH: Jimbo Fisher says Auburn won 'Kick Six' game vs. Bama with 'illegal' plays - CBSSports.com
 
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Jimbo must not like Screen plays either....fooling the defense by letting the D-Line through than blocking all their DB's 7 yards out of the box.
 
Jimbo is actually cognizant on this take

He does watch his wife get racked by young football players but.....He is right on this one....His wife thanks you
 
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Is this true for real? Are they really allowing linemen to be 3 yds downfield on a pass and if so why? It should be an ineligible player down field every time right? I don't completely understand. They can't be saying this is only during RPOs because the referees wouldn't have a clue. Someone explain please.
 
marshallrc13 said:
Is this true for real? Are they really allowing linemen to be 3 yds downfield on a pass and if so why? It should be an ineligible player down field every time right? I don't completely understand. They can't be saying this is only during RPOs because the referees wouldn't have a clue. Someone explain please.
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College rules allow ineligible receivers 3 yards downfield. I think Jimbo is saying teams that run RPO get away with exceeding that all the time. The rules aren't different for an RPO, the officials just aren't enforcing the rules.
Ineligible Receiver Downfield
ARTICLE 10. No originally ineligible receiver shall be or have been more than
three yards beyond the neutral zone until a legal forward pass that crosses the
neutral zone has been thrown (A.R. 7-3-10-I and II).
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Whats the rule in the NFL? Inelligible players aren't allowed more than 1-1.5 yards down field?

I agree that allowing the 3 yard thing is BS, but it really wouldn't be if it was just (more) strictly enforced. Start penalizing teams when the guys are exactly at 3 yards, and they will make sure their lineman are only 2 yards.

its pretty simple.
But the biggest change on offense needs to be making straight up cut blocks illegal.
 
In the NFL if it's a pass your OL can't be across the line of scrimmage at all. Saw a play this weekend where a QB scrambled for like 8 secs. The OL went across the line of scrimmage for a sec or so and came back and they called it. A great play by a young QB was overturned by it. I guess colleges don't call it the same way. Never really paid too close attention to it before but will now.

It was Case Keenum now that I remember... Not sure who else saw that play.
 
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Dudes are 3 yards deep downfield in Candy. Very troublesome...shoulda been illegal.
 
It doesn't affect the way we run the RPO. The OL downfield happens because Auburn (and Louisville) essentially run a triple option out of their RPO/Bubble. The way we (and Clemson, at times) run it is a quicker, single read and the ball is gone.
 
f**k Jimbo.... As long as the wrs and rbs catch the pass behind the line its all good... He's just making up excuses
 
LuCane said:
It doesn't affect the way we run the RPO. The OL downfield happens because Auburn (and Louisville) essentially run a triple option out of their RPO/Bubble. The way we (and Clemson, at times) run it is a quicker, single read and the ball is gone.
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Saban was the one who was complaining the most about Auburn's when Marshall would almost cross the line of scrimmage and his OL would be about 4 yards down field. The Saban Defense would then come in to hit Marshall and at the last second he would toss it. Almost impossible to defend.
 
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If they change the rule to the same as the NFL's, there will be a few coaches at big time schools out of a job.

/****'em
 
I hope we beat FSU with them.




/he's right, though. And fortunate- that FSU team wasn't beating Bama that year.
 
Dingaan1828 said:
marshallrc13 said:
Is this true for real? Are they really allowing linemen to be 3 yds downfield on a pass and if so why? It should be an ineligible player down field every time right? I don't completely understand. They can't be saying this is only during RPOs because the referees wouldn't have a clue. Someone explain please.
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College rules allow ineligible receivers 3 yards downfield. I think Jimbo is saying teams that run RPO get away with exceeding that all the time. The rules aren't different for an RPO, the officials just aren't enforcing the rules.
Ineligible Receiver Downfield
ARTICLE 10. No originally ineligible receiver shall be or have been more than
three yards beyond the neutral zone until a legal forward pass that crosses the
neutral zone has been thrown (A.R. 7-3-10-I and II).
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I think this article or another allows ineligibles to be further down field if the pass is caught behind the line of scrimmage. It gets further complicated in that eligible receivers seem to be able to block downfield in college before the pass crosses the line of scrimmage but I think in the pros receivers are limited on downfield block before the pass is thrown.
 
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