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Jarren Williams Three Interceptions

1st interception Jarren took too long to throw the ball... the dB was **** near 10 yards off Harley he should’ve threw it as soon as Mike looked back.

2nd interception he throws a terrible deep pass inside at the perfect spot to be picked off.

3rd interception... not reading the defense, staring the receiver down, not feeling the pressure, room to step into the pocket but didn’t and throws an easy interception.
 
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brock said:
he had a bad game and start to va tech. It doesn’t mean he’s trash that’s ridiculous. Trevor Lawrence has already had 2 multi interceptions games and he just had a mythical season, it can happen to anyone.
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Bruh you know football right you can't tell me that this man good or going to be good what does he have talent wise I'll wait ?
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Yup. ****** luck and technique. DB arrived early, but Harley is rail thin, can’t use his body to shield, and also gets jolted from the contact. That one isn’t on Williams, the ball was directly into Harley’s chest. He just decided to catch it with his body and it was PI.
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That’s why we need to be throwing balls to a bigger target in that situation Will never understand it
 
brock said:
Is n’kosi Perry arm weak? Most people would say no right? But I mean He had an underthrown deep ball too or are we just going continue this mantra that Jarren has a noodle arm? Of course foster commented that they felt they can break on the ball because if you look just at the last 2 games alone before va tech Jarren could have thrown 2 ints vs Bethune and 1 vs cmu so of course they notated that on film and felt they could make a play.


in terms of the deep ball It’s a mechanics issue for both of those guys. When you have 2 qbs underthrowing true deep balls that’s mechanics. None of those ints had anything to do with arm strength(yes I’m including the deep ball) it’s more so a breakdown in mechanics and not stepping into the throw. First int was pass interference that was a no call, 3rd int the oline was whipped and he was hit as he was throwing the ball but still.
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Why do you keep acting like bombs are the only way you can throw a deep ball and try to bring up a guy slowing up for a Perry bomb as him struggling with deep throws as well. Go and watch the pass Perry made to JT when he avoided the rush and extended the play and hit JT towards the sideline. You think Jarren could make that play? How about the throw to Brevin on the sideline away from one defender and over the top of another. You think Jarren could make that throw? Better question do you think Jarren even attempts that throw? **** nah.

Not only is his mechanics on his deep passes off but he waits to **** late. @Roman Marciante can correct me if I’m wrong but when a qb is looking to throw it over the top he’s not waiting for his wr to get passed the defender to throw it he’s already letting it go once his guy gets even with that defender because at that point he’s open. Watch Jarren throw to JT in the UNC game or the throw to Wiggins in this game that was picked. Compare that to the TD to Perry threw to JT he didn’t wait for Thomas to get behind the defender as soon as he got up on him Perry threw it.
 
brock said:
Is n’kosi Perry arm weak? Most people would say no right? But I mean He had an underthrown deep ball too or are we just going continue this mantra that Jarren has a noodle arm? Of course foster commented that they felt they can break on the ball because if you look just at the last 2 games alone before va tech Jarren could have thrown 2 ints vs Bethune and 1 vs cmu so of course they notated that on film and felt they could make a play.


in terms of the deep ball It’s a mechanics issue for both of those guys. When you have 2 qbs underthrowing true deep balls that’s mechanics. None of those ints had anything to do with arm strength(yes I’m including the deep ball) it’s more so a breakdown in mechanics and not stepping into the throw. First int was pass interference that was a no call, 3rd int the oline was whipped and he was hit as he was throwing the ball but still.
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Perry has more natural arm talent than Jarren & yes he does have more arm strength.

Jarren is more accurate on the underneath & intermediate routes, but it's beyond clear which QB has the "bigger arm" in terms of pure passing ability.
 
am1640 said:
Why do you keep acting like bombs are the only way you can throw a deep ball and try to bring up a guy slowing up for a Perry bomb as him struggling with deep throws as well. Go and watch the pass Perry made to JT when he avoided the rush and extended the play and hit JT towards the sideline. You think Jarren could make that play? How about the throw to Brevin on the sideline away from one defender and over the top of another. You think Jarren could make that throw? Better question do you think Jarren even attempts that throw? **** nah.

Not only is his mechanics on his deep passes off but he waits to **** late. @Roman Marciante can correct me if I’m wrong but when a qb is looking to throw it over the top he’s not waiting for his wr to get passed the defender to throw it he’s already letting it go once his guy gets even with that defender because at that point he’s open. Watch Jarren throw to JT in the UNC game or the throw to Wiggins in this game that was picked. Compare that to the TD to Perry threw to JT he didn’t wait for Thomas to get behind the defender as soon as he got up on him Perry threw it.
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That throw in the second half from Perry to jordan was great no doubt down the left sideline. It could have went to pope and been a bigger play however. But anyways Didn’t people say Jarren lacks arm strength when pope slowed up for him during the Bethune game but when pope does the same thing with Perry last weekend no one questions his arm strength? Be consistent lol Perry underthrew that too because y’all would have killed Jarren with the weak arm criticism if he did that.

Perry was excellent on that throw to Thomas escaping to the right no disputing that at all, making something out of nothing. I applaud Him for that for sure.

And williams does wait too late on some of his passes that’s a fair criticism but with that being said that should go away as he gets more experience under his belt, he only has 4 games and a quarter of playing time pretty much.
 
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I just dont understand how its not obvious to people that Jarren simply cannot make all the throws. He has been short on every single long pass he has thrown and he never tries to hit guys running down the sideline. His % is high because he only makes safe short throws. It like the offense version of bend dont break and it also keeps every one in the middle close enough to stop the run. Its why we dont score but dominate time of possession.
 
brock said:
Is n’kosi Perry arm weak? Most people would say no right? But I mean He had an underthrown deep ball too or are we just going continue this mantra that Jarren has a noodle arm? Of course foster commented that they felt they can break on the ball because if you look just at the last 2 games alone before va tech Jarren could have thrown 2 ints vs Bethune and 1 vs cmu so of course they notated that on film and felt they could make a play.


in terms of the deep ball It’s a mechanics issue for both of those guys. When you have 2 qbs underthrowing true deep balls that’s mechanics. None of those ints had anything to do with arm strength(yes I’m including the deep ball) it’s more so a breakdown in mechanics and not stepping into the throw. First int was pass interference that was a no call, 3rd int the oline was whipped and he was hit as he was throwing the ball but still.
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Lol You got an excuse for Jarren no matter what, what’s your point?? You’re going to tell Bud Foster what he sees on film? 😂
 
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Great break down!! Even though the fade that was a touchdown to Thomas worked, why are we throwing it to the shortest guy on the field? And at the end of the game at the 10 yard line why don't we throw a jump ball to Njoku
 
clg003 said:
I just dont understand how its not obvious to people that Jarren simply cannot make all the throws. He has been short on every single long pass he has thrown and he never tries to hit guys running down the sideline. His % is high because he only makes safe short throws. It like the offense version of bend dont break and it also keeps every one in the middle close enough to stop the run. Its why we dont score but dominate time of possession.
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Bingo 🎯🎯🎯🎯.... I’ve been saying this since the first game btw.
 
brock said:
That throw in the second half from Perry to jordan was great no doubt down the left sideline. It could have went to pope and been a bigger play however. But anyways Didn’t people say Jarren lacks arm strength when pope slowed up for him during the Bethune game but when pope does the same thing with Perry last weekend no one questions his arm strength? Be consistent lol Perry underthrew that too because y’all would have killed Jarren with the weak arm criticism if he did that.

Perry was excellent on that throw to Thomas no disputing that, still a different type of throw , yard distance, amount of seperation created by the receiver that time compared to the deep ball Jarren threw to Thomas vs unc.
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Man what are you talking about. I gave you two examples showing Perry doesn’t have an issue throwing downfield outside of a timing issue on bombs which comes from reps with the wr that he doesn’t get as the number 2. People wouldn’t stress Jarren deep ball throw if we had any examples of good downfield throws that he has made. If you have some I’d love to hear them.

Again deep throws aren’t just 60 yard bombs man. If the ball is traveling more than 30 yards it’s a deep ball and Jarren don’t attempt them at all unless a dude is just wide *** open all alone with no one near them. Why is that.
 
am1640 said:
Man what are you talking about. I gave you two examples showing Perry doesn’t have an issue throwing downfield outside of a timing issue on bombs which comes from reps with the wr that he doesn’t get as the number 2. People wouldn’t stress Jarren deep ball throw if we had any examples of good downfield throws that he has made. If you have some I’d love to hear them.

Again deep throws aren’t just 60 yard bombs man. If the ball is traveling more than 30 yards in the air it’s a deep ball and Jarren don’t attempt them at all unless a dude is just wide *** open all alone with no one near them. Why is that.
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The problem With Jarren and the deep ball is not arm strength it’s mechanics like I’ve been saying. look at his legs, there’s no way you can complete that throw in stride unless you are Pat mahomes if you are not stepping into the throw. This shows up on film constantly and i have been pointing it out . You can look at the 2nd int vs va tech, deep ball to harley vs unc, the missed deep ball to Hightower vs unc on the last drive etc. he didn’t step into the throw and it’s underthrown as a result. It’s like he’s swaying back and throw off his back foot without any Lowerbody movement. He HAS to get more consistent with his drops and use his legs to generate power to drive the ball by stepping into the throw. If regular fans are seeing them i know the coaches have to be pointing it out or something.

 
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Mahoney-Pearson said:
Harley rounded off his route in that first pick. But in general, Jarren doesn't use his lower half very well. A lot of shoulder action in his throwing mechanics.
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This. If Harley cuts across the line to gain and sits down in the hole, it's an easy pitch and catch. It would make the defender have to flip his hips and move 3 yards downfield to interact with the play. Instead, Harley rounds his route up field to the defender which allows him to flip his hips, take one step, and get a hand on Harley's back and arms as the ball is hitting him.

It's the little things that beat us. Harley runs a sloppy route, doesn't come back to the football, and tries to cradle catch with his chest instead of using his hands. That falls on coaches to fix. Problem is, I haven't seen us fix that kind of stuff in years............
 
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brock said:
he had a bad game and start to va tech. It doesn’t mean he’s trash that’s ridiculous. Trevor Lawrence has already had 2 multi interceptions games this year and he just had a mythical season, it can happen to anyone.
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He is no where near a Lawrence type QB.... 15 does not want to make plays he just goes directly by the play only throws balls that is very low risk and that’s why in four games he only has about 7/8 TDs he just isn’t ready plain and sample
 
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