TboneJones
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A sound, non elite defense doesn’t win the ACC
Bull****. That's all we needed last season.
A sound, non elite defense doesn’t win the ACC
Bull****. That's all we needed last season.
A sound, non elite defense doesn’t win the ACC
It’s an interesting argument… Gerald Willis had one of the most dominating seasons here at Miami and maybe ever that I’ve seen and the team as a whole was still bad (2020?)If DT is as important as you all keep swearing it is...
Then that means whenever we play a team with better DT's than us, we should lose right?
And it should also mean we should win whenever we play a team that we have a better DT's than them, right?
First game will be a big test for our current DC, everyone in the football world knows what ND is going to do with those 2 top running backs and new QB.Clemson nor SMU were elite defensively last season. Again, what are you talking about? Our current DC had way less talent and had the #5 defense in all of college football last season in the best conference (in my opinion). Our defense will at least be good this upcoming season with a chance to be great.
And besides the white LB (who I can’t even remember his name) most posters couldn’t name you 2 players on that Minnesota D and definitely couldn’t tell you who their DTs were.Clemson nor SMU were elite defensively last season. Again, what are you talking about? Our current DC had way less talent and had the #5 defense in all of college football last season in the best conference (in my opinion). Our defense will at least be good this upcoming season with a chance to be great.
Think people are conflating most important and scarcity here. Reality is that the best teams are loaded everywhere. It just happens that because of said scarcity, only a handful of teams have top tier DT rooms. As Memnon pointed out, if DT really was that important then A&M would have been much better.It’s an interesting argument… Gerald Willis had one of the most dominating seasons here at Miami and maybe ever that I’ve seen and the team as a whole was still bad (2020?)
I think having premium DTs can help offload the rest of the defense.. LBs getting washed and freeing up DEs with single blocks. But you can flip it easily and say a top pass defense can help the Dline eat because they have time to attack and stop the run on the way in
You know I was convinced that DT is one of the most important positions on defense. But reading what you have posted has me leaning to your thinking. You’re making solid pointsThey aren't.
It shows that both positions are overvalued.
What wins Championships are a collection of A+ talent, just having a bunch of DT's will not win you anything, just like having only a good QB will not win you anything.
TAMU & Penn ST have had better DL's than anybody for the greater part of the last 4 years & it has amounted to one playoff victory between the two.
If DT is the most important position on Defense, then all the predictions you guys have about our Defense & the overall W/L record needs to be changed...
According to yalls logic, we do not have playoff caliber DT's. So any of yall predicting us to win the ACC & make the playoffs, I'd love to hear an explanation as to why? If DT is really that important...
Well not necessarily.If DT is as important as you all keep swearing it is...
Then that means whenever we play a team with better DT's than us, we should lose right?
And it should also mean we should win whenever we play a team that we have a better DT's than them, right?
DT is categorized in the line of scrimmage which includes the OL, both are important in football as a way of being able to control the game. Our recruiting and evaluations on the DL needs to improve which, oh by the way includes the DE.You know I was convinced that DT is one of the most important positions on defense. But reading what you have posted has me leaning to your thinking. You’re making solid points
I don’t know how you can say not looking too hot right now when we just got a commitment from a 6 foot five 335 pound defensive tackle into a room where we have no guys that look like that. Sometimes you have to be a little bit more happy with what you got versus dwelling on what you missed.Miami will keep recruiting until he signs on the dotted line.
but yes DT recruiting not looking to
hot right now
Bull****. That's all we needed last season.
If we had that last season not only do we likely win the ACC, we prolly win a playoff game, our O + Cam was THAT good, we were a 21-0 meltdown away from the ACCCG while having one of the worst defenses we've ever seen at UM for christs sake...A sound, non elite defense doesn’t win the ACC
read post #858 pg 43 for my full thoughts.I don’t know how you can say not looking too hot right now when we just got a commitment from a 6 foot five 335 pound defensive tackle into a room where we have no guys that look like that. Sometimes you have to be a little bit more happy with what you got versus dwelling on what you missed.
They aren't.
It shows that both positions are overvalued.
What wins Championships are a collection of A+ talent, just having a bunch of DT's will not win you anything, just like having only a good QB will not win you anything.
TAMU & Penn ST have had better DL's than anybody for the greater part of the last 4 years & it has amounted to one playoff victory between the two.
If DT is the most important position on Defense, then all the predictions you guys have about our Defense & the overall W/L record needs to be changed...
According to yalls logic, we do not have playoff caliber DT's. So any of yall predicting us to win the ACC & make the playoffs, I'd love to hear an explanation as to why? If DT is really that important...
with a solid defense, we win the acc last season. Our defense was ranked 77th in the nation, that’s below average. Even if our defense is top 50 last season we win our conference.A sound, non elite defense doesn’t win the ACC
Yes, it is a lil naive. Obviously talent is critical. However how do you judge talent at the high school level? Is it not talent IF a crooked system doesn't rate them as high as the man with the same exact measurements, 40 times, strength etc as the man standing right next to him? Use sapp as your example since you brought him up. Remember when he came to us he was a out of shape tight end... Is that not development that turned him into what he came as a tackle? Don't get me wrong. Talent has its place. But at a position where the physical talent is all so similar then what separates one from the other? 9 out of 10 (AT THAT POSITION)it's the intangibles. It's hand placement, it's get off, it's overall strength, it's your punch, it's the ability to shed at just the right moment, to occupy the double team efficiently so that you're linebackers or your edge can take advantage. That's more often than not at that particular position not something that you're able to quantify out of a recruit. Where you are able to prioritize something out of that spot it's the body type, it's the brute strength, it's an IQ.@Brooklyndee no trying to contest anything you wrote. I definitely agree with you that DT is the most important position on the defense. But it seems like you believe development is more important than raw talent. That feels wrong to me. When I see a Sapp, Wilfork, Maryland, Brown — even guys like Willis or Bailey — I see more raw talent than development. Now guys like Taylor and Forston obviously never developed it, but they had crazy talent, too.
Anyway, my gut tells me we need better talent and just keep stacking until Lewis and Taylor find their guys. I don’t think the development is as important. Is that naive?