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Well, Dorsey got his shot as a freshman because Kenny Kelly got hurt. What else was on the roster? Dorsey played great in the last 3 games of 1999. But, without Kelly's injury, Dorsey doesn't sniff the field in 99. Who knows how it would have worked out if that had been the case? There is no reason to think these coaches would have handled it differently. What were the options after Kelly went down? Zack Hart?I'm not against this move as I feel it's worth a shot. With that said, with the way this coaching staff loves their senior players, I wonder if they were here for the early 2000's, would a guy like Dorsey have seen the field as early as he did under this staff. Obviously looking at history we know what he accomplished, but I wonder if this staff wold hve had the foresight to make the right move and play him. I feel like this staff is ultra conservative (obviously talent has played a role), but I think with elite talent, they would still be conservative.
Well, Dorsey got his shot as a freshman because Kenny Kelly got hurt. What else was on the roster? Dorsey played great in the last 3 games of 1999. But, without Kelly's injury, Dorsey doesn't sniff the field in 99. Who knows how it would have worked out if that had been the case? There is no reason to think these coaches would have handled it differently. What were the options after Kelly went down? Zack Hart?I'm not against this move as I feel it's worth a shot. With that said, with the way this coaching staff loves their senior players, I wonder if they were here for the early 2000's, would a guy like Dorsey have seen the field as early as he did under this staff. Obviously looking at history we know what he accomplished, but I wonder if this staff wold hve had the foresight to make the right move and play him. I feel like this staff is ultra conservative (obviously talent has played a role), but I think with elite talent, they would still be conservative.
Last season at Kansas, Heaps played in 11 games, starting nine, for the Jayhawks and threw for 1,414 yards with eight touchdowns and ten interceptions while completing 49 percent of his passes.
To better understand the type of quarterback Heaps is, we reached out to Kevin Flaherty, one of the writers at The Shiver, the 247Sports.com site that covers Kansas.
What are some of Heaps's strengths as a quarterback?
First and foremost, Heaps is a pocket passer. He's the type of guy that if you can provide him with a clean pocket and give him some open receivers, he can pick a defense apart with his accuracy and his anticipation. He doesn't have a howitzer for an arm, but it's strong enough to test a defense to all parts of the field and to make every throw.
What are his weaknesses?
His biggest issue is his mobility — Heaps is a statue in the pocket. Not only is he a player that you don't have the option of a quarterback run game with, but he lacks feel in scramble situations and even when it appears that there's a potential opening for him to scramble for a first down, he's often cut down for a loss or little gain.
Heaps was a highly rated recruit out of high school. What, in your opinion, has held him back from fulfilling the promise he showed?
I can't speak to what happened at BYU, except that I was actually covering Texas at the time, and BYU came into Austin. Heaps got off to a hot start and led the Cougars to a quick lead over the Longhorns. Texas came back to win late in the fourth quarter, but Heaps looked like a pretty promising player. Then, later in the year I read that he had been replaced at the quarterback position.
At Kansas, Heaps just lacked the supporting cast. He had an excellent running back, but inconsistency at both wide receiver — Kansas might have led the country in dropped passes a year ago, and if not, the Jayhawks were certainly in that discussion — and along the offensive line severely hurt him. Of course, the offensive line's issues were only multiplied by Heaps's lack of escapability.
I read that Heaps was sacked 23 times last season at Kansas. Was that a product of him holding the ball too long or poor play by the offensive line?
A little of both, though you could also perhaps blame the receivers for not getting open. Generally speaking, when Kansas had open receivers, Heaps found them when he had time. Other times, there were no openings (and he took sacks) or he had no time (and he took sacks). To be fair to the other players though, there were also times when Heaps took sacks that a mobile quarterback would have been able to escape.
What type of system does Kansas run with their offense and do you feel it suited Heaps?
Last season, Kansas ran kind of a multiple pro system, where the Jayhawks would have some two tight end sets, some shotgun four-wide and just about everything in-between. I think the system did fit him fairly well.
The bigger issue for Heaps was that Kansas brought in a new offensive coordinator, John Reagan, after the season. Reagan was a coach under former Kansas boss Mark Mangino, and he runs a version of the spread that is aided greatly by a quarterback who can run … obviously not Heaps's skill set. Yet, Heaps started the spring game as the quarterback for the No. 1s. He was out-played in the game by a more mobile option in Montell Cozart, who had a 60-yard run. Cozart was named the starter for the 2014 season shortly afterward.
Heaps is a talented player and a good leader, a great guy to have in any program. And if Miami can protect him and the receivers can give him some openings, people might be surprised at the numbers he's capable of putting up.
http://miami.247sports.com/Article/A-Look-At-New-UM-QB-Jake-Heaps-29159446
Well, Dorsey got his shot as a freshman because Kenny Kelly got hurt. What else was on the roster? Dorsey played great in the last 3 games of 1999. But, without Kelly's injury, Dorsey doesn't sniff the field in 99. Who knows how it would have worked out if that had been the case? There is no reason to think these coaches would have handled it differently. What were the options after Kelly went down? Zack Hart?I'm not against this move as I feel it's worth a shot. With that said, with the way this coaching staff loves their senior players, I wonder if they were here for the early 2000's, would a guy like Dorsey have seen the field as early as he did under this staff. Obviously looking at history we know what he accomplished, but I wonder if this staff wold hve had the foresight to make the right move and play him. I feel like this staff is ultra conservative (obviously talent has played a role), but I think with elite talent, they would still be conservative.
Fair enough, it just made me think of it with how much people here state they believe Golden leans too much towards senior players with goes hand in hand with the conservative play style they seem to follow (again talent requires it up to a point). I guess then lets throw a hypothetical out there. Would you play Heaps over Dorsey if Heaps was on that team and we didn't know anything about Dorsey yet? Then consider how this coaching staff would handle it. This is not a mope or negative thought. It's a simple question that makes me wonder what others are thinking.
Last season at Kansas, Heaps played in 11 games, starting nine, for the Jayhawks and threw for 1,414 yards with eight touchdowns and ten interceptions while completing 49 percent of his passes.
To better understand the type of quarterback Heaps is, we reached out to Kevin Flaherty, one of the writers at The Shiver, the 247Sports.com site that covers Kansas.
What are some of Heaps's strengths as a quarterback?
First and foremost, Heaps is a pocket passer. He's the type of guy that if you can provide him with a clean pocket and give him some open receivers, he can pick a defense apart with his accuracy and his anticipation. He doesn't have a howitzer for an arm, but it's strong enough to test a defense to all parts of the field and to make every throw.
What are his weaknesses?
His biggest issue is his mobility — Heaps is a statue in the pocket. Not only is he a player that you don't have the option of a quarterback run game with, but he lacks feel in scramble situations and even when it appears that there's a potential opening for him to scramble for a first down, he's often cut down for a loss or little gain.
Heaps was a highly rated recruit out of high school. What, in your opinion, has held him back from fulfilling the promise he showed?
I can't speak to what happened at BYU, except that I was actually covering Texas at the time, and BYU came into Austin. Heaps got off to a hot start and led the Cougars to a quick lead over the Longhorns. Texas came back to win late in the fourth quarter, but Heaps looked like a pretty promising player. Then, later in the year I read that he had been replaced at the quarterback position.
At Kansas, Heaps just lacked the supporting cast. He had an excellent running back, but inconsistency at both wide receiver — Kansas might have led the country in dropped passes a year ago, and if not, the Jayhawks were certainly in that discussion — and along the offensive line severely hurt him. Of course, the offensive line's issues were only multiplied by Heaps's lack of escapability.
I read that Heaps was sacked 23 times last season at Kansas. Was that a product of him holding the ball too long or poor play by the offensive line?
A little of both, though you could also perhaps blame the receivers for not getting open. Generally speaking, when Kansas had open receivers, Heaps found them when he had time. Other times, there were no openings (and he took sacks) or he had no time (and he took sacks). To be fair to the other players though, there were also times when Heaps took sacks that a mobile quarterback would have been able to escape.
What type of system does Kansas run with their offense and do you feel it suited Heaps?
Last season, Kansas ran kind of a multiple pro system, where the Jayhawks would have some two tight end sets, some shotgun four-wide and just about everything in-between. I think the system did fit him fairly well.
The bigger issue for Heaps was that Kansas brought in a new offensive coordinator, John Reagan, after the season. Reagan was a coach under former Kansas boss Mark Mangino, and he runs a version of the spread that is aided greatly by a quarterback who can run … obviously not Heaps's skill set. Yet, Heaps started the spring game as the quarterback for the No. 1s. He was out-played in the game by a more mobile option in Montell Cozart, who had a 60-yard run. Cozart was named the starter for the 2014 season shortly afterward.
Heaps is a talented player and a good leader, a great guy to have in any program. And if Miami can protect him and the receivers can give him some openings, people might be surprised at the numbers he's capable of putting up.
http://miami.247sports.com/Article/A-Look-At-New-UM-QB-Jake-Heaps-29159446
There are a couple of scenarios where Crow could have been the de facto back up and an injury away from meaningful playing time:Crow wasn't the immediate backup before Williams went down. He won't be the immediate backup after Kaaya and Heaps enrolls either. Crow will, at best, be third string. The only reason he was third string in 2013 was because we had 3 QBs on scholarship.
We don't need 6 scholarship being used for QB in 2014 (Williams, Heaps, Kaaya, Olsen, Rosier and Crow) so please send one packing. My guess would send home the weakest link who has been here the longest.
There is nothing unethical about this move; it just people getting upset about a QB that will never be better than 3rd String on the Depth Chart.
Speaking of ethics, how about those sanctions?
Last season at Kansas, Heaps played in 11 games, starting nine, for the Jayhawks and threw for 1,414 yards with eight touchdowns and ten interceptions while completing 49 percent of his passes.
To better understand the type of quarterback Heaps is, we reached out to Kevin Flaherty, one of the writers at The Shiver, the 247Sports.com site that covers Kansas.
What are some of Heaps's strengths as a quarterback?
First and foremost, Heaps is a pocket passer. He's the type of guy that if you can provide him with a clean pocket and give him some open receivers, he can pick a defense apart with his accuracy and his anticipation. He doesn't have a howitzer for an arm, but it's strong enough to test a defense to all parts of the field and to make every throw.
What are his weaknesses?
His biggest issue is his mobility — Heaps is a statue in the pocket. Not only is he a player that you don't have the option of a quarterback run game with, but he lacks feel in scramble situations and even when it appears that there's a potential opening for him to scramble for a first down, he's often cut down for a loss or little gain.
Heaps was a highly rated recruit out of high school. What, in your opinion, has held him back from fulfilling the promise he showed?
I can't speak to what happened at BYU, except that I was actually covering Texas at the time, and BYU came into Austin. Heaps got off to a hot start and led the Cougars to a quick lead over the Longhorns. Texas came back to win late in the fourth quarter, but Heaps looked like a pretty promising player. Then, later in the year I read that he had been replaced at the quarterback position.
At Kansas, Heaps just lacked the supporting cast. He had an excellent running back, but inconsistency at both wide receiver — Kansas might have led the country in dropped passes a year ago, and if not, the Jayhawks were certainly in that discussion — and along the offensive line severely hurt him. Of course, the offensive line's issues were only multiplied by Heaps's lack of escapability.
I read that Heaps was sacked 23 times last season at Kansas. Was that a product of him holding the ball too long or poor play by the offensive line?
A little of both, though you could also perhaps blame the receivers for not getting open. Generally speaking, when Kansas had open receivers, Heaps found them when he had time. Other times, there were no openings (and he took sacks) or he had no time (and he took sacks). To be fair to the other players though, there were also times when Heaps took sacks that a mobile quarterback would have been able to escape.
What type of system does Kansas run with their offense and do you feel it suited Heaps?
Last season, Kansas ran kind of a multiple pro system, where the Jayhawks would have some two tight end sets, some shotgun four-wide and just about everything in-between. I think the system did fit him fairly well.
The bigger issue for Heaps was that Kansas brought in a new offensive coordinator, John Reagan, after the season. Reagan was a coach under former Kansas boss Mark Mangino, and he runs a version of the spread that is aided greatly by a quarterback who can run … obviously not Heaps's skill set. Yet, Heaps started the spring game as the quarterback for the No. 1s. He was out-played in the game by a more mobile option in Montell Cozart, who had a 60-yard run. Cozart was named the starter for the 2014 season shortly afterward.
Heaps is a talented player and a good leader, a great guy to have in any program. And if Miami can protect him and the receivers can give him some openings, people might be surprised at the numbers he's capable of putting up.
http://miami.247sports.com/Article/A-Look-At-New-UM-QB-Jake-Heaps-29159446
Last season at Kansas, Heaps played in 11 games, starting nine, for the Jayhawks and threw for 1,414 yards with eight touchdowns and ten interceptions while completing 49 percent of his passes.
To better understand the type of quarterback Heaps is, we reached out to Kevin Flaherty, one of the writers at The Shiver, the 247Sports.com site that covers Kansas.
What are some of Heaps's strengths as a quarterback?
First and foremost, Heaps is a pocket passer. He's the type of guy that if you can provide him with a clean pocket and give him some open receivers, he can pick a defense apart with his accuracy and his anticipation. He doesn't have a howitzer for an arm, but it's strong enough to test a defense to all parts of the field and to make every throw.
What are his weaknesses?
His biggest issue is his mobility — Heaps is a statue in the pocket. Not only is he a player that you don't have the option of a quarterback run game with, but he lacks feel in scramble situations and even when it appears that there's a potential opening for him to scramble for a first down, he's often cut down for a loss or little gain.
Heaps was a highly rated recruit out of high school. What, in your opinion, has held him back from fulfilling the promise he showed?
I can't speak to what happened at BYU, except that I was actually covering Texas at the time, and BYU came into Austin. Heaps got off to a hot start and led the Cougars to a quick lead over the Longhorns. Texas came back to win late in the fourth quarter, but Heaps looked like a pretty promising player. Then, later in the year I read that he had been replaced at the quarterback position.
At Kansas, Heaps just lacked the supporting cast. He had an excellent running back, but inconsistency at both wide receiver — Kansas might have led the country in dropped passes a year ago, and if not, the Jayhawks were certainly in that discussion — and along the offensive line severely hurt him. Of course, the offensive line's issues were only multiplied by Heaps's lack of escapability.
I read that Heaps was sacked 23 times last season at Kansas. Was that a product of him holding the ball too long or poor play by the offensive line?
A little of both, though you could also perhaps blame the receivers for not getting open. Generally speaking, when Kansas had open receivers, Heaps found them when he had time. Other times, there were no openings (and he took sacks) or he had no time (and he took sacks). To be fair to the other players though, there were also times when Heaps took sacks that a mobile quarterback would have been able to escape.
What type of system does Kansas run with their offense and do you feel it suited Heaps?
Last season, Kansas ran kind of a multiple pro system, where the Jayhawks would have some two tight end sets, some shotgun four-wide and just about everything in-between. I think the system did fit him fairly well.
The bigger issue for Heaps was that Kansas brought in a new offensive coordinator, John Reagan, after the season. Reagan was a coach under former Kansas boss Mark Mangino, and he runs a version of the spread that is aided greatly by a quarterback who can run … obviously not Heaps's skill set. Yet, Heaps started the spring game as the quarterback for the No. 1s. He was out-played in the game by a more mobile option in Montell Cozart, who had a 60-yard run. Cozart was named the starter for the 2014 season shortly afterward.
Heaps is a talented player and a good leader, a great guy to have in any program. And if Miami can protect him and the receivers can give him some openings, people might be surprised at the numbers he's capable of putting up.
http://miami.247sports.com/Article/A-Look-At-New-UM-QB-Jake-Heaps-29159446
If this assessment is accurate, he's a huge upgrade over either freshman.
There are a couple of scenarios where Crow could have been the de facto back up and an injury away from meaningful playing time:
A) Kaaya wins the job and Olsen decides to transfer. Given some of the reports we've heard about Olsen's attitude, this doesn't seem like a huge stretch to me.
B) Olsen wins the job and the staff decides to redshirt Kaaya to create separation between he and Olsen. Now in this scenario it's very possible that they burn Kaaya's redshirt if Olsen gets injured, but still, depending on the situation it could have forced Crow into at least one game (or multiple games if the injury is later in the season).
The bottom line is that this program is better with Heaps on the roster than Crow. I have no problem with it. And if Heaps wins the starting job, so be it, as long as it is based on merit and not "seniority".
Since when did we become Waver Wire University?
Summary from Matt Porter
This much is clear: Jake Heaps upgraded his situation.
The best-case scenario for UM: Heaps regains the form he showed late in his freshman season of 2010. Over his final five games — including a 52-24 win over UTEP in the New Mexico Bowl, in which he was named MVP — Heaps averaged a gaudy per-game stat line: 252 yards, 2.6 touchdowns and 0.4 interceptions on 65 percent passing, for a passer rating of 165.81.
Summary from Matt Porter
This much is clear: Jake Heaps upgraded his situation.
The best-case scenario for UM: Heaps regains the form he showed late in his freshman season of 2010. Over his final five games — including a 52-24 win over UTEP in the New Mexico Bowl, in which he was named MVP — Heaps averaged a gaudy per-game stat line: 252 yards, 2.6 touchdowns and 0.4 interceptions on 65 percent passing, for a passer rating of 165.81.
There is so much misinformation going around these boards about Heaps.
Yes he did upgrazde his situation. However Miami downgraded theirs. By wasting a scholly on a 1 year transfer player.
Now for this pile of crap statement that has been bandied about in various forms over the last couple of days.
Look at the teams he was playing against during that AMAZING 5 game run. Brace yourselves!
UNLV
Colorado St.
New Mexico
Utah
UTEP
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Yeah he really showed those powerhouses who was boss didn't he?
Yep he's a great signing if we were in the MAC or the Big Sky or even the Sun Belt. This is ******* Miami for fvcks sake!!!!
JESUS ******* WEPT!!!!!!!
Summary from Matt Porter
This much is clear: Jake Heaps upgraded his situation.
The best-case scenario for UM: Heaps regains the form he showed late in his freshman season of 2010. Over his final five games — including a 52-24 win over UTEP in the New Mexico Bowl, in which he was named MVP — Heaps averaged a gaudy per-game stat line: 252 yards, 2.6 touchdowns and 0.4 interceptions on 65 percent passing, for a passer rating of 165.81.
There is so much misinformation going around these boards about Heaps.
Yes he did upgrazde his situation. However Miami downgraded theirs. By wasting a scholly on a 1 year transfer player.
Now for this pile of crap statement that has been bandied about in various forms over the last couple of days.
Look at the teams he was playing against during that AMAZING 5 game run. Brace yourselves!
UNLV
Colorado St.
New Mexico
Utah
UTEP
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Yeah he really showed those powerhouses who was boss didn't he?
Yep he's a great signing if we were in the MAC or the Big Sky or even the Sun Belt. This is ******* Miami for fvcks sake!!!!
JESUS ******* WEPT!!!!!!!
Summary from Matt Porter
This much is clear: Jake Heaps upgraded his situation.
The best-case scenario for UM: Heaps regains the form he showed late in his freshman season of 2010. Over his final five games — including a 52-24 win over UTEP in the New Mexico Bowl, in which he was named MVP — Heaps averaged a gaudy per-game stat line: 252 yards, 2.6 touchdowns and 0.4 interceptions on 65 percent passing, for a passer rating of 165.81.
There is so much misinformation going around these boards about Heaps.
Yes he did upgrazde his situation. However Miami downgraded theirs. By wasting a scholly on a 1 year transfer player.
Now for this pile of crap statement that has been bandied about in various forms over the last couple of days.
Look at the teams he was playing against during that AMAZING 5 game run. Brace yourselves!
UNLV
Colorado St.
New Mexico
Utah
UTEP
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Yeah he really showed those powerhouses who was boss didn't he?
Yep he's a great signing if we were in the MAC or the Big Sky or even the Sun Belt. This is ******* Miami for fvcks sake!!!!
JESUS ******* WEPT!!!!!!!
I'm 100 percent sure you're either Gray Crow's cousin or you have a man crush on "baby jesus."
Heaps is more experienced than any other quarterback on Miami's roster right now.