Jaelan Phillips eligibility

You guys have started multiple threads with multiple pages on this? Jesus.

How hard is this stuff? You're all huge fans, correct? You don't know the most basic rules of how this works?

He is transferring schools. He has to sit out, unless he's granted a waiver, which is unlikely. How much he played this year, last year, etc is completely irrelevant. If he played 0 snaps last year or if he played every snap of every game. It means nothing. He is NOT a graduate student, so he cannot be a grad transfer, so since he's transferring as an undergrad from 1 school to another, he must sit out the 2019 season. The amount of back and forth on something that has been in place for 50 years is terrifying. He's not playing in 2019 without an unlikely waiver.
 
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You guys have started multiple threads with multiple pages on this? Jesus.

How hard is this stuff? You're all huge fans, correct? You don't know the most basic rules of how this works?

He is transferring schools. He has to sit out, unless he's granted a waiver, which is unlikely. How much he played this year, last year, etc is completely irrelevant. If he played 0 snaps last year or if he played every snap of every game. It means nothing. He is NOT a graduate student, so he cannot be a grad transfer, so since he's transferring as an undergrad from 1 school to another, he must sit out the 2019 season. The amount of back and forth on something that has been in place for 50 years is terrifying. He's not playing in 2019 without an unlikely waiver.
If you read the last few posts or so you would see that he possibly has a legitimate argument for getting a waiver . It is a fact that he is pursuing a major that is no longer offered at UCLA. That rule is stated clear as day among the reasons a transfer may be granted a waiver . If that’s not enough, it is a fact that he also officially retired while at UCLA , so like another poster just said he may have a legal argument there as well. That isn’t just made up sht
 
Cis experts out in force pertaining to Phillips eligibility and when and if he is allowed to play. Cis posters love to play the supposition game. We will find out soon what the outcome of issues pertaining to Phillips will be. Decisions will be made by powers that be. Guessing game not necessary.
Did you seriously just basically say that because the powers that be will make the decision that nobody on a message board should discuss it? So if we enjoy discussing various possibilities then that makes us wannabe experts? WTF?

Your personal life is none of my business but you sir are in absolutely dire need of a *******.
 
Redshirting has nothing to do with his eligibility in terms of being able to play this year. The angle here and what makes his case different is the fact that he retired due to injury. I believe that the retirement legally severed his ties to the UCLA program in terms of playing sports. Now that he has received a second opinion that clears him to play Phillips is able to resume his career at the school of his choosing. This is what I believe the legal interpretation will be.

Pandora's box
 
You guys have started multiple threads with multiple pages on this? Jesus.

How hard is this stuff? You're all huge fans, correct? You don't know the most basic rules of how this works?

He is transferring schools. He has to sit out, unless he's granted a waiver, which is unlikely. How much he played this year, last year, etc is completely irrelevant. If he played 0 snaps last year or if he played every snap of every game. It means nothing. He is NOT a graduate student, so he cannot be a grad transfer, so since he's transferring as an undergrad from 1 school to another, he must sit out the 2019 season. The amount of back and forth on something that has been in place for 50 years is terrifying. He's not playing in 2019 without an unlikely waiver.

The ESPN report that he is immediately eligible is throwing people off, like myself
 
You guys have started multiple threads with multiple pages on this? Jesus.

How hard is this stuff? You're all huge fans, correct? You don't know the most basic rules of how this works?

He is transferring schools. He has to sit out, unless he's granted a waiver, which is unlikely. How much he played this year, last year, etc is completely irrelevant. If he played 0 snaps last year or if he played every snap of every game. It means nothing. He is NOT a graduate student, so he cannot be a grad transfer, so since he's transferring as an undergrad from 1 school to another, he must sit out the 2019 season. The amount of back and forth on something that has been in place for 50 years is terrifying. He's not playing in 2019 without an unlikely waiver.

Terrifying? Lulz
Feel free to mix in some decaf. What's truly terrifying is your post.


You are right that everything about a redshirt is irrelevant. However the fact the he retired because of injury and withdrew from UCLA because they didn't offer his desired major is relevant.
 
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Discontinued Academic Program Exception - Student-athletes may transfer and play immediately if their academic program was discontinued and they enroll in the same major they were studying at the previous school.
The language in this is a problem. UCLA didn’t have a music program to discontinue, he’s just changing majors. I don’t think this would play out for him if he used this argument
 
The language in this is a problem. UCLA didn’t have a music program to discontinue, he’s just changing majors. I don’t think this would play out for him if he used this argument

According to him and the UCLA academic book...UCLA does not offer music production/technology so I think you're wrong as ****.
 
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According to him and the UCLA academic book...UCLA does not offer music production/technology so I think you're wrong as ****.
The rule applies when a program at the previous school is discontinued, not in situations where a player simply decides to pursue a new program that the first school doesn't offer. Otherwise, any player could use that to transfer without sitting. I don't know the facts re his situation, but if UCLA never had a music program and he now wants to degree in music, then this will have no bearing on his potential eligibility.
 
The rule applies when a program at the previous school is discontinued, not in situations where a player simply decides to pursue a new program that the first school doesn't offer. Otherwise, any player could use that to transfer without sitting. I don't know the facts re his situation, but if UCLA never had a music program and he now wants to degree in music, then this will have no bearing on his potential eligibility.

I didn’t ask you for any clarification
 
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So when is the deadline for a decision on these transfers ? Anybody know the answer or do I get 35 humiliating graphics for asking.
I don’t think there is a deadline on NCAA decisions. They take their own sweet time.

That is, unless Alabama or OSU neeeds a quick decision. Then it’s all hands on deck to help them out.
 
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Did you seriously just basically say that because the powers that be will make the decision that nobody on a message board should discuss it? So if we enjoy discussing various possibilities then that makes us wannabe experts? WTF?

Your personal life is none of my business but you sir are in absolutely dire need of a *******.
No ****. I got to check with certain posters before I state my opinion.

The freaking world is changing rapidly right before our eyes. If Fields can get okayed to try to OSU and rightly so, you can't discriminate against a player who has medical issues and can't pursue his major.
 
You read what I wrote right? Ok then..

Nah I usually agree with you but think you misread him on this. If Phillips was majoring in music at UCLA and UCLA discontinued its music program is a much stronger argument than Phillips was majoring in business and then decided to major in music, something UCLA does not, and has never offered as a major.

If that is the case, Miami could pull a UNC and offer something unique like Swahili as a major and top recruits that want to transfer can just say I want to major in Swahili now and only Miami offers that so I get a waiver.
 
This is real easy. Just a few years ago, the NCAA probably would not have granted Fields a trf. Things changed, the NCAA has changed.

By denying phillips a trf the NCAA is inviting a very winnable lawsuit. They are denying him a chance at his livelihood due to his medical issues, already sat out most of year, they don't have his major and a new coach. Throw in time away from football with no avenue at the pros right now and this can really be looked at as punitive punishment.
 
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